Who's the best kisser in kissonia?

Who kissed Buffy the best Angel or Spike?

  • Angel- the obvious winner!

    Votes: 11 34.4%

  • Spike-Ol' Rubber lips himself

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Riley-Captain Romance

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Faith-Really they're just good friends

    Votes: 7 21.9%

  • Seriously have we stooped this low!

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Total voters
    32
palabravampiress said:
On what criteria are we judging?

I mean, we just get to see what the kisses look like. That pretty much eliminates all tactile sensation from the running. You can't judge on wetness or dryness or anything (unless you see a giant string of saliva). You can't judge on taste because we really have no way of knowing what the other person ate just prior to the kissage or when the last brushing of the teeth occurred. You can't even judge on how fast it gets them into bed because Angel, poor boy, can't do that.
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The better the kisser the easier the girl is to get into bed? PV I'm shocked nd appalled!!!
 
Keanoite said:
The better the kisser the easier the girl is to get into bed? PV I'm shocked nd appalled!!!
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LOL! Don't be shocked and appalled. I stand firm by my opinion that a good kiss can be a good bit of foreplay. Think about the worst kiss you ever had in your life. Did that get the engine revving? I doubt it. Now think of the best kiss you've ever had in your life. Did that leave you wanting more? In the absence of taste, touch, and smell, (because breath does count for something, too, and so do pheromones, which are picked up through the nose) all we really have to go with is what we see and hear from the characters. So, if we see and hear them seem eager to move to the next level, then it is safe to assume it was a good kiss... or it would be, if Angel weren't cursed. Darn Angel's stupid curse!

Oooh... I suppose we could use duration as an indicator of a good kiss. I mean, you probably didn't spend very long schooling Mr. Worst-kiss-of-your-life in the fine art of snogging. Mr. Best-Kiss-of-Your life? You probably wanted that kiss to last.

So maybe we could judge based on whose kisses lasted the longest. What do you guys think?
 
palabravampiress said:
LOL! Don't be shocked and appalled. I stand firm by my opinion that a good kiss can be a good bit of foreplay. Think about the worst kiss you ever had in your life. Did that get the engine revving? I doubt it. Now think of the best kiss you've ever had in your life. Did that leave you wanting more? In the absence of taste, touch, and smell, (because breath does count for something, too, and so do pheromones, which are picked up through the nose) all we really have to go with is what we see and hear from the characters. So, if we see and hear them seem eager to move to the next level, then it is safe to assume it was a good kiss... or it would be, if Angel weren't cursed. Darn Angel's stupid curse!

Oooh... I suppose we could use duration as an indicator of a good kiss. I mean, you probably didn't spend very long schooling Mr. Worst-kiss-of-your-life in the fine art of snogging. Mr. Best-Kiss-of-Your life? You probably wanted that kiss to last.

So maybe we could judge based on whose kisses lasted the longest. What do you guys think?
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Ok true point, the worst kiss I ever had I was thinking about what I needed to buy in the shop on my way home! The hills were most definitely not alive!

See I think Angel is at an unfair disadvatage cuz when he and Buffy were together she was mostly inexperienced and unsure, if she wanted more she probaly would have been too scared by these wacky new feelings to do anything about them and when she actually psuhed the topic her honey lost his soul! so really its not a fair way to gage it.

I think maybe the lenght of the kisses is the best way to go...and in that case Angel wins!:eviltongu
 
Keanoite said:
Ok true point, the worst kiss I ever had I was thinking about what I needed to buy in the shop on my way home! The hills were most definitely not alive!

See I think Angel is at an unfair disadvatage cuz when he and Buffy were together she was mostly inexperienced and unsure, if she wanted more she probaly would have been too scared by these wacky new feelings to do anything about them and when she actually psuhed the topic her honey lost his soul! so really its not a fair way to gage it.

I think maybe the lenght of the kisses is the best way to go...and in that case Angel wins!:eviltongu
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Right, but then you have to ask whether or not the Angel kisses lasted longer because they were better or because that darn curse prevented them from going forward so kissing was the only possibility that was open to them (at least the only possibility that they'd show on TV).

Angel is definitely at a disadvantage in this contest because his curse confuses the issue. He isn't able to have a normal sex life, (poor boy) so any sexual action that he does take can't really be judged like sexual actions taken by people who can have a normal sex life.
 
palabravampiress said:
Right, but then you have to ask whether or not the Angel kisses lasted longer because they were better or because that darn curse prevented them from going forward so kissing was the only possibility that was open to them (at least the only possibility that they'd show on TV).

Angel is definitely at a disadvantage in this contest because his curse confuses the issue. He isn't able to have a normal sex life, (poor boy) so any sexual action that he does take can't really be judged like sexual actions taken by people who can have a normal sex life.
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Ok what if we took I Will Remember You as our point of comparison. It was Buffy and Angel with no inhibitions, doing what came naturally and felt right?
 
I don't buy the Buffy being inexperienced comment. She made Cordelia look like a classical philosopher and Cordelia was "experienced" in that area. Let's not forget she also made some guy named Tyler beg on his hands and knees to go to a dance with her. A guy doesn't to that for just anybody. I think Buffy got some lip action in LA.
 
palabravampiress
palabravampiress
Didn't she kiss Pike?
VisionGuy said:
I don't buy the Buffy being inexperienced comment. She made Cordelia look like a classical philosopher and Cordelia was "experienced" in that area. Let's not forget she also made some guy named Tyler beg on his hands and knees to go to a dance with her. A guy doesn't to that for just anybody. I think Buffy got some lip action in LA.
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I wasn't talking lip action though...a little further along the line from lip action
 
VisionGuy
VisionGuy
LOL My bad.
Keanoite said:
Ok what if we took I Will Remember You as our point of comparison. It was Buffy and Angel with no inhibitions, doing what came naturally and felt right?
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Okay. Let's take their first kiss in IWRY as our Bangel kiss.

Then what about Spike, Riley, and Faith? Faith's out cuz they never got a real liplock. We can't judge that one.

Since Bangel's kiss in IWRY was sort of like their first kiss, (at least for that particular round of the Bangel relationship) should we maybe take...

Oooh! wait! I know! We can completely eliminate confusion by just judging by each couple's first kiss. What do you think?
 
so that would be reilly and Buffy in Hush - not an earth shaker
and for Spike and Buffy - is it Something Blue (some great kisses there), intervention (nice but very short and no returnage if you get what i mean) or Once More With Feeling (which as previously stated is an awesome kiss)

Spike for me is still the winner!
 
Keanoite said:
Ok does that mean the OMWF kiss vs. the IWRY kiss?
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No, the "Angel" kiss (from season 1) would work better. That was before they knew about the curse, so the curse wouldn't influence their actions.

And, yes, the OMWF kiss for Spike.

In which episode did Riley and Buffy have their first kiss?
 
Keanoite said:
That would be Hush..........
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Are you sure about that? 'Cause all I remember is an only slightly more than brotherly/sisterly hug. The kissing didn't come for another two or three episodes, and then it sorta escalated real quickly into a horizontal mambo...
 
Tranquillity said:
so that would be reilly and Buffy in Hush - not an earth shaker
and for Spike and Buffy - is it Something Blue (some great kisses there), intervention (nice but very short and no returnage if you get what i mean) or Once More With Feeling (which as previously stated is an awesome kiss)

Spike for me is still the winner!
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For Spike, I don't think we should use "Something Blue" because they were under a spell. That would be influenced by magic in much in the same way as that in which Angel's kisses might be influenced by his curse. Also, I don't think intervention should count because it's not so much a romantic kiss as it is a peck (and, also, he doesn't have full use of his face). I think we should use OMWF because it is romantic, mutual, and the spell is over by the time they kiss. They are singing, though, so maybe the spell is still in place? In that case, should we use Tabula Rasa? The spell is definitely broken by the end of Tabula Rasa.

Is the no-voice spell broken by the kiss in Hush? I don't remember.
 
white avenger said:
Are you sure about that? 'Cause all I remember is an only slightly more than brotherly/sisterly hug. The kissing didn't come for another two or three episodes, and then it sorta escalated real quickly into a horizontal mambo...
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It was definitely Hush, they made this whole big thing about it cuz they had almost gotten that first kiss a couple of times earlier in the ep but they kept ruining it by blurting something out
 
white avenger said:
Are you sure about that? 'Cause all I remember is an only slightly more than brotherly/sisterly hug. The kissing didn't come for another two or three episodes, and then it sorta escalated real quickly into a horizontal mambo...
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I really don't remember this at all. In which episode did they have that kiss?
 
VisionGuy said:
It was definitely Hush. Right after Riley broke up the civilian fight and Buffy broke one of the guy's arms. And after the hug.
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Okay. So is it Angel's kiss in "Angel," Riley's kiss in "Hush," and Spike's in "OMWF?" Are we agreed on that? If so, then I need to go rewatch those kisses so I can compare. Oh darn, what a chore! lol.
 
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