Who's the Traitor (possible spoilers for current issue)

Who's the traitor

  • Kennedy

    Votes: 5 12.2%

  • Xander

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Dawn

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Willow

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Giles

    Votes: 4 9.8%

  • Faith

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Andrew

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • Somebody else

    Votes: 10 24.4%
  • Total voters
    41
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So, in 8.09 we learned there's an "inside man". In 8.10 we learned betrayal and treachery is coming.

So who is the treasonous, traitor, on the inside and why would he or she turn?

There's some interesting possibilities.

Kennedy? She doesn't like magic. Twilight wants to rid the world of magic. Her family is wealthy. that would give her connections. I don't see it myself. The traitor is inside the central chain of command. He or she knew Buffy survived her confrontation with Gigi.

Xander? All I can think of is reasons why it couldn't possibly be. Surely not loyal Xander. Then again perhaps the fact he's least likely makes him most suspicious. But why would he turn. Surely he's not still pissed about that eye thing... Ya know though, he is the only one who is still on good terms with Buffy. He's the only one who is still truly on the inside.

Dawn? This possibility makes me think of something. Perhaps the traitor is enchanted.

Willow? Willow has secrets, and dark feelings concerning Buffy. But why would she want to rid the world of magic?

Giles? There's the possibility of hidden motives. Possibly something to do with his watcher connection. Buffy and Giles are on the outs though, and wouldn't the inside man want to stay inside?

Faith? Nah. She was never really "inside". Wouldn't it be sweet irony if by the end of the story Buffy discovers the only one she can trust is Faith? :drunk:

A Slayer, or Slayer Witch? I don't know. Maybe.

Andrew? He's my prime suspect. Twilight wears the same jacket Spike and Andrew have. Spike isn't around. Andrew can't be trusted. He's weak around evil. Warren can influence him. Warren's still around. The twilight's plan is to separate Buffy from her support group. Andrew pushed Spike and Angel away by setting up the Buffy decoy with the Immortal.

Somebody else? Who else is there on, or near the inside?
 
I think it'll be Kennedy or Andrew. I agree with your Andrew reasonings, not sure if I'm just sayin' Kennedy because of my self loathing toward her, or what, but there is the whole she came back from a mystical death thing, and she really doesn't like magicks, I have some suspicion toward her.
 
Andrew makes the most sense from almost every angle. Except maybe that Robin said "the closest" about the betrayal, which in my mind can only mean Xander. And since I'm hoping for Bander/Xuffy (what's the official name?) action this season, I decided not to vote for him 😉 Ignoring something always makes it go away, right?
 
Xander makes the most sense to me because of the whole 'closest and unexpected' - because he is.
But he's so unexpected and close, and also maybe too obvious that I went with someone else.
It's just a thought but they're making a bigger deal then usual about how everyone in the chain is connected.. and we see this again in the preview for #11. I'm thinking Buffy would be really crushed if she's betrayed by just about every other slayer there is.. they might turn on her for some reason maybe.
Oh and I'm also wanting some 'Bander' 😉
 
Hehe, I just thought of something. Renee/Xander is Rander. Too bad his name wasn't Xandier.
 
My vote is por Xander simply because Joss seems to take great pleasure in doing things in his stories just to make the viewers/readers scream, "NOOOOO!" and just too many people love and adore Xander for there NOT to be that sort of reaction if he turns out to be the betrayer.
 
About it being Xander, a member in another forum posted this interesting plotline where Xander is the betrayer.

"It's the last but two issue of Season 8. Twilight's plan to end all magic and banish all demons from the world is in full swing... but Buffy and Willow have decided they can't face that, and have developed a plan to prevent it happening. Their magic ritual involves a red glowing egg which will absorb and defeat Twilight's own demon-banishing spell.

But Xander is conflicted about the whole thing. He's loyal to his friends, of course he is. But he can't help thinking that a world without vampires, or demons, or warlocks, would be a good thing for the vast majority of humanity. And in long sleepless nights, he gradually decides that Buffy and Willow are being selfish: they're trying to cling to the things that make them special and superior to normal humans, at the expense of the general good.

And so at the last minute he makes up his mind. As the ritual builds to a climax he shatters the egg. Twilight's spell takes effect. Willow loses all her magical powers, and Buffy becomes a normal woman, not a Slayer.

Betrayal, for the best of motives.

The next episode then has Buffy treating Xander as her enemy, but reconciling with him in the final pages. And in the last issue of all, they defeat Twilight despite no longer having any superpowers... " by stormwreath.
 
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Wow. That sounds so very Xander. And tragically moving. And in typical Joss writing style it would in fact make me go 'NOOOOO!' or...something to that....effect....
I dont think it will be Xander or Willow. Im thinking all the Slayer girls, or Andrew.

Kennedy wouldnt do it because she knows how much WIllow oves magic, but then again she might be afraid that WIllow might do dark. so idk. BU t im sure that it wont be WIllow
 
Looking at this now I'm all confused. I don't know who to lean towards. And the concept that any of them could betray her hurts me .::sad puppy dog face::.
Though when I look at the reasons listed I find myself letting my suspicion senses lean towards Andrew. It's not that he's evil, just that when he gets too close to it (in this case Twilight or Warren or maybe even the Immortal- I mean we still technically don't know the deal on him....) he picks up it's flavor. Like a mushroom. Hehe. But then again, at the end of season seven we saw Andrew become a lot stronger person and I think he would be even more resolved towards good after his shock at being the one that survived when he thought he would die in the battle.

The other one I have suspicion for is Kennedy. Not because she hates magick and because she's a brat, but because of this mystical death Willow mentioned. Anything can happen during the time one is mystically dead (I'm not speaking from experience haha) and so anything could have gotten to her, reached her, converted her, even brainwashed her a la Spike/First in season 7, plus you would suspect she'd be even more hating of magick after dying because of it. However,Kennedy loves being a Slayer in the same way that Faith was for it in season 3 so why she want to get rid of that as well?

I really don't think it's Giles or Faith. Faith seems on the outs of most everything anyway and she is definitely playing for the good guys now and as for Giles, I could see him trying to get rid of it all so as to give Buffy the happy normal life she's always wanted, but he's too much big picture guy to not realize that there always has to be magick and good and evil so as to keep the world moving. It is integral to the world. So really don't think it could be him.

I'm praying it's not Xander because after all he's been through with Buffy, I really don't think he could betray like that. He loves her (how he loves her I'll leave to the interpretation of the shipper, haha) but that Stormwreath theory posted by Sosa Lola above does make sense in a Xander way. Which worries me, haha.

Personally I think it's one or more of the new Slayers. Fighting the battle because it's their destiny but not really wanting to, or maybe they just hate that Buffy's superior to them, or they may have been seduced by whoever is the face of evil this year. There's a lot of possible reasons one of the newbies could be the betrayer.
 
I was thinking that as well. I dont think its ANdrew because everybody atomatically assumes its him because they dont want it to be a scooby. An I dont think Joss would let it be Andrew because he knows everybody would want it to be him
 
I kinda think it's Willow. She's been gone for about a year, so she could have been working up some evil plants. Also, I've noticed that in all the covers/panels that Twilight has been in so far, there's a wierd fog. Willow's cover for number 3 has that fog. [insert shrug here] But it could easily be another person, I'm just not sure right now...
 
Kennedy or Faith, definitely not. I voted for Willow but Dawn would be fun and.. unlikely too. Willow only because they had the entire issue about her and Buff.

Kennedy. Better kill her now just to be sure. Even if its not her we're doing the world a favour and its not like theres just one Slayer anymore *nods*
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What is wrong with you.

So I voted for Willow
 
I voted Andrew but the more I think about it the more Xander is jumping out at me. Of all the Scooby relationships since the comic started the Buffy/Xander interactions have been the most enjoyable. They have been so cute together, more than we have seen in years. I think of everyone mentioned Xander has a genuine belief that magic and everything that goes with it is bad and the world would be better without it. Just watching Willow, his best friend, be so corrupted by it would be reason enough for him. And well he is the only Scooby who hasn't tried to end the world yet and well Joss is pure evil so I kinda think we should be preparing for Evil Xand Man to make his presence known.
 
GATEGOD said:
Kennedy or Faith, definitely not. I voted for Willow but Dawn would be fun and.. unlikely too. Willow only because they had the entire issue about her and Buff.



What is wrong with you.

So I voted for Willow
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NO....thats just problems between them. Which is normal for friends who have been best freidns for so long. Somewhere down the line you're gonna get conflict, but nothing they cant make right with each other again so they are good.

Besides, Willow said she wont betray Buffy already than what she has. When shes says this the thing that instantly pops in my mind is what she explained about Kennedy. About not wanting her to be around because of what happened with Tara. Kinda selfish, but understandable and there for Willow thinks she betray BUffy with all of that, the bringing her back and not wanting kennedy around.

I also think it would be Xander, But GOD I hope not. I think I'd cry and be devistated too.

No votes for Giles or Faith. They are too busy on there own trying to find more slayers and complete what ever missions they run into.

Dawn, she might argue and hate Buffy from time to time, but we all know that deep down she loves her. After all, they are literally one in the same. She wouldnt betray her sake of ending all magic and stuff.

Andrew....nah! I think he loves his active role of being in charge of the SLayer girls. He loves being apart of the gang even though they are seperate.

NOw they say theres a inside man, which means they already betrayed Buffy since issue one, so is the inside man the future Betrayer?? I think its a inside man and then someone close to her will i guess you could say maybe come to the light on some issues. Like seeing BUffy robbing the banks. Being reckless. Using her abilities to get what she wants. So they also may think that if other slayers do this as well there will be chaos in the world. Maybe they betray her for the sake of them thinking that they are helping somehow.

But as I say, I have a strong feeling that it wont be WIllow. I mean why would she want to end all magic? Hello! Shes a "goddess". Magic is what makes Willow Willow. Remember the early seasons of Buffy and how she struggled. I dont thik she'll say, "Oh. Im bored with this. I think I'll take all the magic from the world."

But thats my opinions and thoughts. But I hope that Xander and Willow have no part. If so, I know I'll be crushed! =(
 
Anybody thinking that it may be Satsu?

We're all assuming it meant close in the friendship sense, what if Twilight and this demon from their more strategist point of view mean the Slayers themsevles, Satsu being Buffy's second in command and most trusted warrior among her new army.

Just saying.
 
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