Who's the Traitor (possible spoilers for current issue)

Who's the traitor

  • Kennedy

    Votes: 5 12.2%

  • Xander

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Dawn

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Willow

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Giles

    Votes: 4 9.8%

  • Faith

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Andrew

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • Somebody else

    Votes: 10 24.4%
  • Total voters
    41
And given how we're seeing some rebellious Slayers, maybe Joss is hinting at this growing trend not so subtly, hoping Satsu being the one among Buffy's own ranks turning against her will come as a shock, so much so it takes Buffy off guard, hence her lying wounded in the castle, surrounded by the shadows of the other Slayers?

Ohhh I hope Renee isn't one of them too, see how both Buffy and Xander strangely have a new Slayer buddying up to them?
 
Hey lads remember we are here to have fun and discuss Buffy. Lets leave the bickering to the children. A difference of opinion is NO reason to fall out.

Ok let the discussion continue.
 
A slayer would make sense as "closest".... meaning most like her, most understanding of her situation, being a slayer as well?
 
Here's a possibility for Xander as traitor. It involves what's probably a spoiler for issue #13, so I guess I'd better tag it.

In #13 Dracula looks to be making an appearance. If that happens it would seem to make Dark Horse's previous TPB Tales of the Vampires canon. In that Xander spends a year under Dracula's thrall. If Dracula is in some way connected to Twilight that would create a situation under which Xander could be the traitor acting under Dracula's command
 
nerd4hire said:
Here's a possibility for Xander as traitor. It involves what's probably a spoiler for issue #13, so I guess I'd better tag it.

In #13 Dracula looks to be making an appearance. If that happens it would seem to make Dark Horse's previous TPB Tales of the Vampires canon. In that Xander spends a year under Dracula's thrall. If Dracula is in some way connected to Twilight that would create a situation under which Xander could be the traitor acting under Dracula's command
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I see where you're going with that, but god I hope not. The stuff in the tags isn't really spoilers so much as speculation, but anyway.

I know Xander was funny being Dracula's bitch, but I really hope Xander has a little more mind control by now.. it sort of belittles his character to be so easily manipulated, although it is funny.
It's going to be interesting though. Reading 'Antique' you can see that Dracula really cares for Xander.. and has some other kind of connection with Buffy. I can sort of see Dracula teaming up with the scoobies to be more likely because he needs to, in order to survive?

Hmm here's another thought. What if Twilight is someone Buffy knows? Thus the betrayer... yeah I know I'm reaching.

I liked the idea someone had that Twilight was really Caleb. That's why he needs all the plating and straps to hold himself together in the middle.
 
alexa said:
I see where you're going with that, but god I hope not. The stuff in the tags isn't really spoilers so much as speculation, but anyway.

I know Xander was funny being Dracula's bitch, but I really hope Xander has a little more mind control by now.. it sort of belittles his character to be so easily manipulated, although it is funny.
It's going to be interesting though. Reading 'Antique' you can see that Dracula really cares for Xander.. and has some other kind of connection with Buffy. I can sort of see Dracula teaming up with the scoobies to be more likely because he needs to, in order to survive?

Hmm here's another thought. What if Twilight is someone Buffy knows? Thus the betrayer... yeah I know I'm reaching.

I liked the idea someone had that Twilight was really Caleb. That's why he needs all the plating and straps to hold himself together in the middle.
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Ooooo that would make sense! =D
Hope he doesn't get pokey with people's eyes again though >_<
 
I think I know who the traitor is. It's Satsu. I mean think about it, somebody that Buffy would least expect, of course she wouldn't expect the person that professed her love for her. Also out of all the slayers Buffy likes Satsu and believes Satsu to be her best fighter, and also Buffy likes having Satsu around and enjoys her company and will more than likely grow to trust her, so who knows maybe because Buffy herself isn't gay Satsu will grow upset and betray her, or maybe she's betraying her now by being the inside woman.
 
I voted Giles. After all, he has betrayer Buffy more than once. He always does what he thinks would be best. Like the time he and principal wood ploted to kill Spike
 
I know Giles has sometimes made decisions behind Buffy's back but it's always been Fatherly decisions- getting rid of Spike for example was just the equivalent of a parent trying to push away a bad love interest for their children, but I don't think he would ever outright betray her. He cares about her and loves her way too much

Personally my money is either on Satsu or Renee, possibly both as I think it is suspicious that each of them are cuddling up to Xander and Buffy at the same time. On the other hand Amy's spell proved that while Buffy doesn't feel the same way, Satsu is in true love with Buffy so I doubt she'd betray her if she feels that strongly about her. But then again, as Willow said, love makes you do the wacky.

Renee is very suspicious though....and Xander has always attracted the demonic/bad women, you know the ones who aren't generally trustworthy so Renee would fit the profile....
 
I don't think it will be a core member, Making it Xander wouldn't be cool, Willows already gone bad, and Buffy would look at what happened with Giles as a betrayal.

I think it's going to be Satsu or Renee, just cuz the two of them have been pointed out above the rest, Joss did the same thing with Amanda in season 7, we saw her playing the game with the gang in Chosen and then she died, it was set up to make us like her and then fell crappy with her death.

Renee and Satsu have been set up the same way, we want to see Xander with Renee cuz it would be nice for him, and we have grown to like Satsu cuz shes a good character.

I don't think it would be Kennedy cuz I think when she was making her apology to Willow for being a brat in the last issue I think was aimed more at us, I think that was the start of a growth for Kennedy and we gonna see her more and more and build her up as a character, which was what we were missing in season 7!
 
I know it's in Joss' nature to do plot twists that make us want to tear our hair out,but....sometimes,the most obvious choice is but a ruse to throw us off the scent. (Which see,Andrew.)

Giles and Faith I can't really see,since they're now going all "The Avengers" on us.

Willow...can't see it myself,PLUS she's already gone down the path. Something really nasty would have to happen for her to return to the dark side.

Kennedy? Maybe...she's still enigmatic to me.

Buffy? Don't think so,but she mind end up losing a bit more than she expects to.

Dawn? Enchanted though she may be,I don't think it's her.

That's why I chose "someone else". And it'll probably be someone we haven't seen yet.
 
I think people have mentioned in the official discussion of this month's issue (12), that the vampire-gang very easily gained access to the Slayers' castle. They also knew where the armoury was, which indicates that they may have a mole in the organisation. Or, if that they're working for Twilight and are using his mole. Or Twilight might have infiltrated their organisation and gave them the intel on the castle, hoping that a fight between the Slayers and the Vampires would only further his goal.

Anyway, what I was wondering about. How did the wolves enter the castle? Willow was taken out. Xander was with Renee. Buffy with Satsu. Andrew was doped up on dramamime. Dawn was sleeping? Who let them in? A new character? Or perhaps they just used their fog-abilities to slide under the door?!? Still how did they know where to find the armoury? Some food for thought perhaps.
 
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Given the events in Issue 12, I'm seriously wondering now if the traitor just might be Satsu
 
MAY BE A SPOILER!!!! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!




Given the events in Issue 12, I'm seriously wondering now if the traitor just might be Satsu
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I agree. I mean she has wangled her way into the inner circle so to speak. But then again so has Renee. I'm keeping my eye on the both of them.....:: Suspicious Hairy Eyeball Giving::
 
Then again, if Xander were under some sort of thrall from someone who refers to him as "Manservant" and seems to have a connection with the new Japanese vampires, that might work, too.
 
Ooooh, interesting (and good) point. See, that's the problem with this thread for me. People seem to be so easily able to flip me from one idea to another. I just can't seem to stay firm!! Haha
 
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I know right. Both on this matter and the one of Twilight's identity, we're constantly being pushed in different directions.
Okay, after reading today's issue, I've decided I have enough "evidence" to really start pointing fingers here. I think Renee is the mole.

1) Has anyone else noticed that Renee is always wearing a suspiciously large earring? She always wears only one. Looks the same every time, only the colour changes and she doesn't always wear it in the same ear. Could be a bug?

2) And the two times we've seen the castle be attacked, she was on guard duty. In the case of the Zombies, she and the other Slayer didn't notice, because they were chatting about her private life. She did get injured, but not killed, even though she was the first person who had to fight the zombies. Normally, casualties are always highest on the front-line.

3) Now in issue 12, the castle is attacked again. Xander and Renee are on guard duty. They see wolves. It's only wolves... no reason to panic, right? But no, Renee suggests looking into it and they leave the guard post. Which means the wolves can now freely use their morphing abilities to turn into fog, without Xander noticing and raising the alarm.

4) Last but certainly not least. Scott Allie said that they had a last name for Renee, but not for Satsu. Why? Maybe because we have already been introduced to her mother, who was introduced by her last name; Lieutenant Mottler.
 
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