Why can't Angel do CPR?

A lot of stuff in Fantasy doesn't make "realistic" sense. Like oh, say, magic. Usually it has to be internally consistent, though. Whedon's vampires aren't internally consistent. I've given up trying to make them internally consistent.

Which is annoying as they kind of get top billing as the enemy because it is Buffy the Vampire Slayer not Buffy the Miscellaneous Demon Slayer

Edit:

Blondie Bear agrees: If you ever meet Joss, make sure to call him on that.


Ohh trust me, If I ever meet the big man, I have QUITE a few questions for him.

You think I am bad here?!?!

I don't hold Joss in any kind of reverence so I'll lay into him.
 
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Blondie Bear
If you ever meet Joss, make sure to call him on that.
Thats actually different.

Connor is the life that Angel 'won' in The Trial for Darla, so this is direct from TPTB and/or Jasmine(if you believe her)

Ahhh I see, I'll definately need to go back and rewatch that, so does that mean this thread get a stake through it now? I don't know what else there would be to say about it.
 
I always just took it to mean that because Angel was dead he couldn't provide the oxygen to perform CPR. Like someone already said, vampires breath out of habit, maybe its just reflex and not the actual act, like they breath in, but because they don't have any working organs no oxygen is actually drawn into their lungs. So it looks like their breathing but nothing is actually happening.
 
I always just took it to mean that because Angel was dead he couldn't provide the oxygen to perform CPR. Like someone already said, vampires breath out of habit, maybe its just reflex and not the actual act, like they breath in, but because they don't have any working organs no oxygen is actually drawn into their lungs. So it looks like their breathing but nothing is actually happening.
But that's silly... if they "drawn in air" in any way - and they clearly do, with all the talking and smoking - they obviously draw in oxygen too. And if they inhale, their lungs are working, at least on a muscle activity level. (Unless, of course, it's their stomach and not their lungs at work... who knows, perhaps vampires talking is in fact finely controlled burping? :lmao: ) Their inhaling somehow excluding the oxygen, just taking in nitrogen and trace stuff... that's quite a bit too "yeah, right" for me.

Actually, with their lungs not doing the oxygen absorption, just "muscle pumping", vampires should even be better than humans at CPR, as they would give breath with the full oxygen content just as in normal air, instead of the oxygen-depleted, carbondioxide-enriched air a human would breathe out.
 
Maybe as Angel is 250 years old, his lungs(like his heart) are all shrivled and dried up. I cant see them functioning as normal.
 
Garlic breath.
Kills them every time.

Never took the classes?

Ok, I have no other answer that isn't covering up for bad writing. Sorry.
 
But that's silly... if they "drawn in air" in any way - and they clearly do, with all the talking and smoking - they obviously draw in oxygen too. And if they inhale, their lungs are working, at least on a muscle activity level. (Unless, of course, it's their stomach and not their lungs at work... who knows, perhaps vampires talking is in fact finely controlled burping? :lmao: ) Their inhaling somehow excluding the oxygen, just taking in nitrogen and trace stuff... that's quite a bit too "yeah, right" for me.

Actually, with their lungs not doing the oxygen absorption, just "muscle pumping", vampires should even be better than humans at CPR, as they would give breath with the full oxygen content just as in normal air, instead of the oxygen-depleted, carbondioxide-enriched air a human would breathe out.

Ok, but vampires in the Buffyverse don't have to breath. So going off other information I've heard about vampires, most recently Stephenie Meyer's Eclipse (I'm only mentioning this because I can't think of a scene in the Buffyverse were this point has been made) Vampires can stop breathing if they need too, but they can still talk. They talk without oxygen in their lungs.

I don't think its obvious that they draw in air. As being's that are actually walking corpses we don't know what their body needs.
 
Ok, but vampires in the Buffyverse don't have to breath. So going off other information I've heard about vampires, most recently Stephenie Meyer's Eclipse (I'm only mentioning this because I can't think of a scene in the Buffyverse were this point has been made) Vampires can stop breathing if they need too, but they can still talk. They talk without oxygen in their lungs.

I don't think its obvious that they draw in air. As being's that are actually walking corpses we don't know what their body needs.
Well, they may not breathe in the sense of needing to enrich their blood with oxygen... but we wouldn't be able to hear them speak unless they're pressing some kind of gas out of their lungs, through throat, mouth and/or nose. (I can't fully rule out, of course, that they might have some kind of "mystical synthesizer" to provide the sound... however, then it would be pointless moving their jaws, lips and tongues to speak, unless they're doing it out of habit and/or as a disguise. Anyway, this is where it hits the limit of my personal suspension of disbelief. I guess studying Phonetics can sometimes really spoil your enjoyment of TV. 😉 )

So where does that gas come from? Most probably from inhaling (as they must be able to exhale to speak, it's pretty safe to assume they inhale beforehand 🙂 )... and then we're stuck with the question, if they inhale air, where does the oxygen go?

I guess the best explanation (aside from "Angel is a dumbass and just didn't know that he would have been able to give CPR, too") would be either 1) oxygen alone doesn't suffice for CPR, you require a sharing of mystical "élan vital" only provided by living organisms. Unfortunately, that raises another nitpicky question: would it, in the Buffyverse, be possible to do CPR with a mechanical breathing apparatus?

...or 2) it might be some "élan mortal" given out by vampires... their breath working, in whatever inexplicable way, as a "death giver" and not a "life giver", even if a mundane chemical analysis probably wouldn't be able to differentiate the gas exchanged from the normal air around us. And if that's the case, kissing a vampire is flirting with death on an even higher level than we thought. 😉

Ah well. I guess I stick with "Angel = dumbass" as the answer. That guy clearly doesn't have his thinking straight, anyway, when he's around Buffy, so choosing that answer isn't too far a stretch of imagination. :biggrin:
 
Well, they may not breathe in the sense of needing to enrich their blood with oxygen... but we wouldn't be able to hear them speak unless they're pressing some kind of gas out of their lungs, through throat, mouth:

Yes we would. Dont need to exhale to produce sound.
 
Yes we would. Dont need to exhale to produce sound.

We do if we want people to understand us and respond! You really are out to be a PAIN tonight aren't you? Well, be warned, I am TOO!

As a side note, ever get to the point, after seeing a thread title pop up so much that you start answering the thread in your head with horrible answers?
Like when I saw this say, "Why Can't Angel Do CPR?" and my brain just said, "Because he's a nancy boy ponce".
It really is nothing against the poster or even the post...just my smart-butt brain.

Perhaps I should just tear through ALL the threads until I get tired doing that.
 
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