Why haven't you watched Firefly?

Out of karma

That's all anyone can ask for. Now I'll be crossing my fingers that you'll end up changing your mind about it. But I won't hold my breath.😉

edit: Aimed at Kean obviously.
 
Watched the first episode and have just have never gotten around to watching the rest of them. Found the pilot a bit long,it was nearly like a film. Also I'm not that mad on Nathan Fillion which doesn't help! Having said that, I do intend to watch the rest of it at some stage!
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I want to watch it really bad, it's on my list! My list is so very long. lol I have no way of watching things... 🙁
 
More of a fair share of us have already obviously. But far from everyone. So if you haven't, why not?

Never heard of it?
Seems silly. Cowboys in space, really?
Don't like western? Science fiction?
Don't have a way of watching it?

We got plenty of doubters turning sides once they've watched it. Maybe you'll become one too? Let us know your reasons.

This is just out of curiousity, not to tell people they're stupid for not watching. There's not a single show that everyone likes. You just might miss out of something amazing and we (Yes I say we. 😀) want to share the love.

Really, it's not that focused on the Western/cowboy thing. The biggest reason to love it is that it's created by Joss Whedon, so you know it's got some great characters & dialogue. Really, the characters caught me right at the beginning even though the plot was a little slow.

All of the above reasons mean nothing. They haven't watched it because they don't allow TV in mental asylums. 😀
ROFL!!!

I've seen Serenity a couple of times and I have watched the first 3 episodes of the series and I just didn't find any reason to keep watching.

Oh Kean, you've missed the best episodes!! Please keep watching!
 
It is kinda slow in the beginning... It didn't start garnering real interesting for me til about the 4th episode. But force yourself to keep watching; you'll be missing out on some GREAT eps and wonderful writing if you don't.
 
Which is? Out of gas? People have different opinons after all.

Well I especially love Our Mrs Reynolds, Out Of Gas, Jaynestown & Heart Of Gold.

And as as far as the silly premise, how about a teenager girl who fights vampires, and her name is Buffy? Doesn't exactly strike one as a masterpiece!

As to a PP's comments, does anyone actually despise the show? I can see someone not having watched it yet, or not that interested if it isn't their "thing", or not being their favorite, but I don't think I've read anyone who "despises" it.
 
And as as far as the silly premise, how about a teenager girl who fights vampires, and her name is Buffy? Doesn't exactly strike one as a masterpiece!

None of Joss's work really scream masterpiece at first glance. Doctor Horrible's sing-a-long blog? But that's the reason I brought it up. To see if people actually use that as a reason not to watch.
 
I started watching and I loved it! I just keep forgetting to finish the season! :/ I've seen Serenity though.
 
I saw Serenity, which I liked and I want to see Firefly, I keep saying that when I get money I'm gonna buy the dvd's but then when I get money there's something else to spend it on, so I haven't gotten around to do it yet.. but I will eventually.
 
OK, so right now I am up as far as Out of Gas and next up is Ariel.

I am really liking it and it is Hallmark Whedon and really is just incredibly witty. BUT, I'm not in awe of it. By any stretch of the imagination. And I certainly am struggling to understand the fan campaigns to get it back.

Maybe I'll feel differently once I finish the whole thing.
 
Washburne
Washburne
I'm glad you're enjoying it more.
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
I'm glad you're liking it more!
So, I've finished it. I hold my hands up and say that it is really very good. The whole crew is just <3.

The only thing I didn't like was how much Mal called Inara a whore. Especially because he said it as a way of belittling and trying to shame her. The tension between Mal and Inara could have been achieved without employing that tactic.

Despite that, I'd call myself a fan. Not a Browncoat though 😉
 
The only thing I didn't like was how much Mal called Inara a whore.

That's something that I never liked either. I grew up in a culture, or at least a family, where women were always considered to be and were treated like ladies until their actions proved otherwise. Inara was never anything if not cultured, kind, and patient with the entire crew. In defense of Mal, and it's a very poor defense, I freely admit, Inara never seemed to see their mutual banter as anything more than that, and she gave back as good as she got. Also, Mal was very quick to defend her if anyone else treated her with anything other than respect.
 
That's something that I never liked either. I grew up in a culture, or at least a family, where women were always considered to be and were treated like ladies until their actions proved otherwise. Inara was never anything if not cultured, kind, and patient with the entire crew. In defense of Mal, and it's a very poor defense, I freely admit, Inara never seemed to see their mutual banter as anything more than that, and she gave back as good as she got. Also, Mal was very quick to defend her if anyone else treated her with anything other than respect.

I don't buy the defense, I still think he called her it to try and shame her or perhaps exalt some sort of moral superiority over her. Like what he did was so much better than what she did. And you're right, she gave back as good as she got, calling him a petty thief (which really struck a nerve with him) but I still feel he was very much wrong for his behaviour. Especially since him not referring to her as a whore was one of the initial requests Inara made of him when she began her stay on Serenity. One she had to repeatedly reiterate. That's massively disrespectful. The fact that Mal punched in a few faces that were even more disrespectful than he doesn't exonerate him.
 
So, I've finished it. I hold my hands up and say that it is really very good. The whole crew is just <3.

The only thing I didn't like was how much Mal called Inara a whore. Especially because he said it as a way of belittling and trying to shame her. The tension between Mal and Inara could have been achieved without employing that tactic.

Despite that, I'd call myself a fan. Not a Browncoat though 😉

I'm glad you are now a fan! 🙂 The show is sooo great. I'm definitely a Browncoat, and I'd jump for joy if we ever got another movie or the series ever got picked up again. But I'm very glad you went ahead and finished the series and can now understand the love for the show. 🙂
 
I don't buy the defense, I still think he called her it to try and shame her or perhaps exalt some sort of moral superiority over her. Like what he did was so much better than what she did. And you're right, she gave back as good as she got, calling him a petty thief (which really struck a nerve with him) but I still feel he was very much wrong for his behavior. Especially since him not referring to her as a whore was one of the initial requests Inara made of him when she began her stay on Serenity. One she had to repeatedly reiterate. That's massively disrespectful. The fact that Mal punched in a few faces that were even more disrespectful than he doesn't exonerate him.

I seriously doubt that Mal would ever seek any sort of exoneration, even if he knew precisely what the word means. On the other hand, if Inara ever took actual offense from the things that he said to her, we never saw it, and Inara wasn't the type of person to pretend not to be offended when she actually was. As near as I can recall, and you've seen the entire series much more recently than I have, I can't recall Mal actually using the word "whore" in referring to Inara or her profession more than a couple of times, though he did make several suggestive comments about her profession and her clients. When he did so, however, it was only to Inara directly, never to any other member of the crew.

I think that Joss was trying to use their back and forth banter as the way that they kept each other at arm's length, despite the feelings that they obviously had for each other. (Obviously, Joss couldn't give Mal a curse that would cost him his soul if he ever experienced a moment of complete happiness, so he had to take another approach) We may see it as distasteful, but it was one sure way to equip the series with its pair of obligatory frustrated lovers, something that Joss seems unable to write a series without including.
 
I seriously doubt that Mal would ever seek any sort of exoneration, even if he knew precisely what the word means. On the other hand, if Inara ever took actual offense from the things that he said to her, we never saw it, and Inara wasn't the type of person to pretend not to be offended when she actually was. As near as I can recall, and you've seen the entire series much more recently than I have, I can't recall Mal actually using the word "whore" in referring to Inara or her profession more than a couple of times, though he did make several suggestive comments about her profession and her clients. When he did so, however, it was only to Inara directly, never to any other member of the crew.

Honestly, from Shindig on it felt like he either implied or straight up called her or her profession "Whore" or "Whoring" in every episode. Of course, it doesn't help that they have Inara calling the women in Heart of Gold "Whores" either.

I felt that they set Inara up to be this sophisticated, cultured, able woman and then undercut it all with Mal's disdain.

but it was one sure way to equip the series with its pair of obligatory frustrated lovers, something that Joss seems unable to write a series without including.

What about Simon and Kaylee? They deserve a shout out for that category too. 🙂

I'm glad you are now a fan! 🙂 The show is sooo great. I'm definitely a Browncoat, and I'd jump for joy if we ever got another movie or the series ever got picked up again. But I'm very glad you went ahead and finished the series and can now understand the love for the show. 🙂

I'm happy I finished it too. I'll probably watch Serenity again tonight, now that I have the back story behind it. To be honest, I kept expecting for River to start to kick arse in every episode. In my mind that now seems to come out of nowhere in Serenity.
 
I felt that they set Inara up to be this sophisticated, cultured, able woman and then undercut it all with Mal's disdain.

I think that that is precisely what Joss intended. The Companions are the equivalent of our Japanese Geisha, cultured, sophisticated, and trained to please their client, only a small part of which actually involves sex. On the other hand, Mal was, first and foremost, no matter how he might have tried to hide it (though he never really tried to hide it that much) a soldier, and not just any soldier. Mal was a Sargent, rude, crude, probably tattooed in some undisclosed place. Inara and Mal were as different as any two people you might imagine. As different as, say, a vampire and a vampire Slayer. That seems to be another of Joss' favorite themes, the attraction of opposites, people who should never so much as acknowledge the other's existence, meeting and falling in love.

But I don't think that Mal felt disdain for Inara, or she for him, as much as they both felt a mutual attraction, realized that nothing could ever come from it, and tried, quite unsuccessfully, to deny their feelings (once more, like a Slayer and either of two ensouled vampires).

As for the women in "Heart Of Gold," it's Inara, not Mal, Jayne, or anyone else, who first calls them whores (ironically, Mal never does) possibly because she feels a certain contempt for them, despite the fact that the house mistress is an old friend.
 
So, I've finished it. I hold my hands up and say that it is really very good. The whole crew is just <3.
See people. Give it a chance. Can we turn Kean we can turn anyone. 😀

Despite that, I'd call myself a fan. Not a Browncoat though 😉
Watch it again and again and who knows what'll happen. 😉


To be honest, and this is bad, I don't even know what it takes to be a Browncoat. Doing some real work to get the show back? (Kind of late now no? No!) "Just" love the show enough to want to call yourself a Browncoat? Watch the following video +20 times?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FKFLJmOQ50&"]YouTube - Firefly - Jayne's Song[/ame]


Anyway...

After Serenity I suggest you watch Done the impossible. http://www.donetheimpossible.com/
 
Kean
Kean
That song is maddeningly catchy
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
That Felicia Day GIF in your siggy freaks me out. LOL
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