Willow, Tara, and Doors

[msfantastico87]

*I apologize in advanced if this was posted before, but I couldn't find anything on the matter*

I was reading a blog entry and it is talking about the wonderful relationship that is Willow and Tara. Something about them kind of being alienated compared to other ships in the show because of how they are lesbians and are not socially accepted. I don't remember what else the entry said but then it started talking about doors, so I thought I would share:

Of course, each character opens a door at some point, and theoretically everyone has to go through doors all the time to get from room to room and place to place. But doors are interesting. Doors are obviously associated with entry and exit, but often those entrances and exits relate to more than just the physical space. The ideas, people, and values that space represents are being embraced or dismissed as well. Who can open particular doors or pass through doorways into certain spaces indicates ownership, privilege, and power. Doors also provide isolation or privacy, and in the Buffyverse doors and doorways can effectively protect against vampires who cannot cross some thresholds without an invitation.

Doorways and entryways are also liminal spaces or places of transition. Obviously, people go from outside to inside or from one space to another through doorways, but entryways differ somewhat. They are part of a space but at the same time disconnected and, in fact, almost purgatorial: one only lingers in an entryway until accepted into the rest of the building where meaningful interactions take place. Liminal spaces often play a significant role in portraying queer relationships. Because same-sex relationships have been considered socially deviant, they oftentimes can only safely exist in liminal spaces, like a darkened alley or a bathroom stall. But restricting queer characters to liminal spaces ensures that their "threatening" sexuality does not come in contact with "moral," heterosexual spaces like marriage, the home, and the nuclear family. The confinement also implies that they do not or cannot belong in those places.

Here is the full blog entry, if you are interested in reading it.

They start mentioning specific scenes in which there is a door involved and include a video of any door that has made screen time with the pair of hotties.

Here is the video, it's actually quite funny lol

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oh! and a something to think about....Was Amber looking down Aly's shirt?!?! /me hopes so!
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[NY State of Mind]

good read and funny vid..i never realized how many doors they've actually opened lol

 

[MinwaraYana]

I thought I was the only one who thinks a lot about the doors Willow and Tara open. I remember I smiled every time when they knock on each other door. 😀

Good metaphor about door and relationship. I don't have time to watch the vid, though. ^_^ And about that pic, at first I thought she looks at the book. But now I'm quite sure Amber played a lesbian so realistic.

 

[kristin1105]

wow you got real philosophical in that blog. hmm i bet the other couples didnt open that many doors.

 

[LizzieRainbow]

Never really thought about doors in that much detail or the significance of doors but....well....after reading that i think i will be noticing more door opening

 

[TaylorSwift]

Never thought about doors but I'll probably notice them now..LOL..I watched the video and oh my, do they open lots and lots of doors!! LOL

 

[msfantastico87]

I thought I was the only one who thinks a lot about the doors Willow and Tara open. I remember I smiled every time when they knock on each other door. 😀

Good metaphor about door and relationship. I don't have time to watch the vid, though. ^_^ And about that pic, at first I thought she looks at the book. But now I'm quite sure Amber played a lesbian so realistic.

For realszies! As I watched the show I'd get so excited when Willow knocked on her door and Tara was just on the other side smiling. It melted my heart it was just so sweet <3 As for Amber looking down Aly's shirt, I think we can all agree that Amber has bisexual tendencies 😉

wow you got real philosophical in that blog. hmm i bet the other couples didnt open that many doors.

lmao I didn't write this. Some other really cool girl did. I don't get that philosophical, nor do I notice things like this. But when I do notice, I never think to write it down, and then someone goes and writes it and I'm all like "Crap! I thought of that first!!!" I really should start a blog though...

 

[Thursday]

Thanks for sharing, this was pretty interesting. Tara and Willow's relationship always felt, well, removed from the others and I think the writer makes a few good points.

Because this was so interesting I looked to see if the writer had written anymore on Tara/Willow and they did:
http://thistosay.blogspot.com/2007/04/buffy-vampire-slayer-willow-tara.html

It's on how well she feels the writer's handled, or mishandled, Willow and Tara's relationship.

 

[msfantastico87]

Yeah I read that the same day I stumbled upon the other one. I had to skim through it though because I have a horrible memory. Mostly I agree with everything she says about the couple. Willow's relationship with Tara should have stirred some kind of opposition. I would have thought that at least Xander would have taken it a lot harder than he did when he knew that Willow had this huge mega crush on him.

 

[Thursday]

Yeah I read that the same day I stumbled upon the other one. I had to skim through it though because I have a horrible memory. Mostly I agree with everything she says about the couple. Willow's relationship with Tara should have stirred some kind of opposition. I would have thought that at least Xander would have taken it a lot harder than he did when he knew that Willow had this huge mega crush on him.

I know. I don't even think Willow told Xander directly, I think he kinda found out about Tara on his own.

 

[msfantastico87]

Yes exactly. And now thinking about it...the whole "doors" metaphor could be directly applied to her coming out deal

 

[Tome]

Hahaha nice interpretation! And I laughed at the frozen frame 😛

 

[zobothehobo]

Cute vid! Great analogy with the doors and relationships...

And she is SO looking down Aly's shirt!

 

[Lonelyangel12]

Thanks for posting this 😀 i actually saw that video on youtube a while ago and I couldn't help but laugh because it's truth. And i agree with most of you that i would smile whenever they would come see each other at their dorm room, it would be that happy feeling of "yay! some willow and tara screen time" XD I also agree that opening doors can be a metaphor of Willow coming out, but also of a new begining for her after Oz left her, since Tara was a completly different relationship to her and not just because she was a girl, but because it was her second serious relationship and after one break up people beging to see things differently when it comes to relationships ((yeah i repeated the word way too many times)) lol anyways your frozen frame cracked me up! You can totally see where her eyes are directing at 😉

 

[msfantastico87]

Thanks for posting this 😀 i actually saw that video on youtube a while ago and I couldn't help but laugh because it's truth. And i agree with most of you that i would smile whenever they would come see each other at their dorm room, it would be that happy feeling of "yay! some willow and tara screen time"

I think most people's heart warmed whenever they saw some Tara and Willow screen-time. Even some of my straight friends say they are the reason they watched BtVS.

XD I also agree that opening doors can be a metaphor of Willow coming out, but also of a new begining for her after Oz left her, since Tara was a completly different relationship to her and not just because she was a girl, but because it was her second serious relationship and after one break up people beging to see things differently when it comes to relationships ((yeah i repeated the word way too many times))

Lets see, she opens up with Buffy, kind of stops being the social outcast. In the bronze on Welcome to the Hellmouth Buffy tells her to seize the moment and she did, opening that door and letting a vampire in. She opens up about her feelings towards Xander. She opens up and gets together with Oz. She opens up about magic and wicca group. She gets curious and lets Tara in. From that point on, all you see is Tara helping her open doors that she never knew she would have gone through. After Tara died, She closed all doors and locked herself out. She became evil and let herself get consumed by rage.....until she let Xander in. After that she (unfortunately) creaked the door open just a little and let Kennedy in until she opened it all the way. Willow really did evolve.

lol anyways your frozen frame cracked me up! You can totally see where her eyes are directing at 😉

I'm still convinced Amber is at least a little bit gay. That picture proves it! Which also means I still have a shot with her lmao

 

[kristin1105]

lmao I didn't write this. Some other really cool girl did. I don't get that philosophical, nor do I notice things like this. But when I do notice, I never think to write it down, and then someone goes and writes it and I'm all like "Crap! I thought of that first!!!" I really should start a blog though...

Lol my bad. I rarely catch things like this so its nice to see others post about them. Go for it. I'm sure you'll find things other don't notice. 🙂

 

[msfantastico87]

Lol my bad. I rarely catch things like this so its nice to see others post about them. Go for it. I'm sure you'll find things other don't notice. 🙂

no worries 🙂 it's flattering that you thought I wrote it lol i'm seriously considering it starting a blog though. I'm just worried no one would read it and that i'll just be blabbing nonsense to the entire web lmao

 

[kristin1105]

I'm still convinced Amber is at least a little bit gay. That picture proves it! Which also means I still have a shot with her lmao

Lmao. I have high hopes but I'm starting to doubt it more. She recently chop off all her hair. How long has she been with that guy who played Warren?

Sorry for jumping in, I can't resist talking about Amber.

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[msfantastico87]

Holy hotness! yes i saw that she chopped all her hair off and may i say she looks devilishly charming 😉 i honestly have no idea how long they have been together but some people tell me it's since the show ended.

 

[kristin1105]

Holy hotness! yes i saw that she chopped all her hair off and may i say she looks devilishly charming 😉 i honestly have no idea how long they have been together but some people tell me it's since the show ended.

I love those pictures. 🙂 I've heard that too. I bet every gay/bi girl in the world would swoon if she ever came out as gay.