Worst Buffy Episodes

Why does everyone hate Dawn? I mean, she's basically just a misguided teen who doesnt get any attention because of her sister saving the world every week. And, she grew up a LOT in s7. And there WERE some funny Dawn moments. *wracks brain for those moments* When she was home alone before the freaky stuff happened in CWDP, for example.
 
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Joamna
Agree, Dawn is so loveable sometimes..
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buffhead
i agree, dawn was just annoying cus thats how little girls are. and she did grow up and eventually became a good character. i liked dawn.
Why does everyone hate Dawn? I mean, she's basically just a misguided teen who doesnt get any attention because of her sister saving the world every week. And, she grew up a LOT in s7. And there WERE some funny Dawn moments. *wracks brain for those moments* When she was home alone before the freaky stuff happened in CWDP, for example.

I think that most of the time she acted like a spoiled brat.

I think her character did grow up to an extent although she proved to me in Season 7 that she was still a spoiled brat when she kicked Buffy out of the house.

I could have lived without Dawn personally.: scratch
 
I dont get it, every one hates Dawn cus she was annoying, but thats the way little teenage girls are. You cant expect her to come in this world knowing everything she needs to know, and acting the way an adult would. She was a little girl, and thats all there is to it. I personally liked Dawn, her actions and reactions to Buffy and all of the scoobies and the situations were just as to be expected. I mean jeese, she was just a kid,
 
I think most people DONT see that, as Dawn was a teenager in an adult world. She had annoying points, but all teens have to feel SOME attention(or at least i do), and with buffy being the slayer and mosters trying to destroy the world every week, she felt neglected. Hence the stealing and the whole plot in "Older and Far Away".
 
Bad episodes...not easy. Nothing in Buffy seasons 1-5 got to me much, Dawn had her annoying moments but I couldn't pick out one episode.

On the whole I don't mind Buffy S6 too much, it was enjoyable enough with Dark Willow and the Trio. But it does have what I deem as the worst Buffy episode of all time- Hells Bells. I honestly would have prefered having Anya die than splitting them up in this shambles of a episode.

Season 7 I really don't like. Hard to pick out individual eps but- Him, Bring on the Night, First Date.

In Angel there isn't a single episode I don't like. Sure there's some bits I don't agree with (floating Cordelia head, wtf??) but not an episode I don't like in some way.
 
I dont get it, every one hates Dawn cus she was annoying, but thats the way little teenage girls are. You cant expect her to come in this world knowing everything she needs to know, and acting the way an adult would. She was a little girl, and thats all there is to it. I personally liked Dawn, her actions and reactions to Buffy and all of the scoobies and the situations were just as to be expected. I mean jeese, she was just a kid,

I agree she was just a kid but I have never seen a teenager in real life pull tantrums like Dawn did. The whole "Get out get out get out!!" act got really annoying. I was not like that as a teenager and neither is my brother.

I understand that she was just a kid but sometimes her reactions to situations were really unacceptable in my opinion.
 
But how many 20 year olds did u live with when u were 15-16? And, she didnt whine THAT much. I mean, sure there were a couple episodes here and there, but there was all this drama, b/w Willow & Tara, Xander & Anya, even Buffy & Spike. Everyone had someone else, and Dawn felt like she didnt have that. Put yourself in HER shoes...
 
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I robot- you Jane, Bad Eggs, Ted, Homecoming, Living Conditions, Double Meat Palace. And I think that's about it...Theres not alot of Joss work that I don't dig....HA! I said dig! .....Mmm hmm, retarded.
 
The season seven episdode Help is, for me, the Worst Episode Ever.

Casie is the worst kind of teen angst incarnate. And what's worse is the episode justifis her angst. yech.

I know the message was supposed to be that sometimes you can't help people no matter how hard you try, even with super powers, but I already knew that. More importantly, I thought Buffy already knew it to. Sitting through this episode was like sitting through a MSTie movie without the bots.

Yeah, I'm probably being too harsh--I'm sure there were some funny scenes and other redeeming features in it somewhere. However, it's not an exaggeration to say that, when attempting repeat viewing, I tend to skip chunks of this episode with search fast-forward. I hate it.
 
Season 1: Out of Sight, Out of Mind -- I just don't think that it was a good ep
Season 2: Bad Eggs -- do I even have to explain
Season 3: Homecoming and Dead Man's Party -- I chose this because I hate the Scoobies in conflict and they where there in this one.
Season 4: Doomed -- It was just plain wrong. I still don't understand the plot.
Season 5: Listen to Fear -- that big roach looking thing...yikes...I hate roaches!
Season 6: DoubleMeat Palace -- This is pretty much on everybodies list I believe. This may be the worst episode ever made.
Season 7: The Killer in Me -- just because I hate Kennedy so much!
 
It's actually kind of difficult to think of Buffy eps I really hate (except for what I already mentioned). I mean the monster-of-the-week eps weren't always that great, but they weren't that bad either.

The Freddy Krueger ep was kind of remarkably unoriginal. I seem to recall the eps around the time that Riley left having especially boring camera work that made the eps a little painful.

I mean, certainly there are some episodes that are more forgettable than others, but Help is the only one I can remember outright hating. *shrug*
 
Freddy Kruegar ep? When was that? the one with buffy in the Hospital?
Yeah. (checking buffyworld...) http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season2/season2.php episode 30, "Killed By Death". I mean, don't get me wrong--it still had several scenes and plot bitsies in it I liked a lot. In no special order:

* Buffy about to drink the germ in liquid form:
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([Buffy] uncaps the tube and raises it to drink the serum. Willow quickly
stops her.)


Willow: Buffy!
Buffy: Willow, I'm going to do this.
Willow: Buffy, that's 100% pure. It'll kill you in an instant.
Buffy: Oh. They really should put that on the label.

(Willow reaches into the refrigerator for a bottle of drinking water and grabs a beaker that's sitting on top. Buffy closes the fridge while Willow sets the beaker on the desk and opens the bottle.
Willow: It needs to be diluted.
She pours some water into the beaker and closes the bottle.)


Buffy: Okay, but this better work fast.

(Willow takes the test-tube and draws some of the serum into a dropper. She holds it over the beaker and lets a single drop fall in.)

Buffy: Faster than that.

(Willow looks up at her, worried, but gives in and puts another drop into the water. Buffy takes the beaker, holds it up and looks at it, then over at Willow.)
Note also that the germ was totally clear and had no label. This is an unusually real, science-y moment in BtVS that I liked.

* a dark moment:
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(Cut back to the hospital records room. Cordelia has the guard wrapped around her finger. She smiles sweetly at him and pretends to be interested as he leans against the wall and talks.)

Guard: You know, most people think that security guards are just guys that failed the police exam. But that's not me. This is my career.
Cordelia: Stereotypes are so unfair.
Guard: I did take the fireman's exam, though. I didn't do so good.
Cordelia: Oh, well, you know, I think that security guards (plays with his badge) are *way* sexier than firemen. They're all sooty.
Guard: Well, this is where all the action is anyhow. I'm all the time restraining people.
[ ... ]
Cordelia: Mm, how thrilling. (cut to her) Do you ever get scared?
Guard: 'Fear is for the weak.' That's my motto. Either that, or 'Live in the now.' I haven't decided yet.
Cordelia: I bet you see a lot of tragedy. You know, like that little girl?
Guard: Oh, one of Dr. Backer's patients. Dr. Backer's a great man. He understands...
[ ... ]
Guard: ...the real truth about children.
Cordelia: (cut to her) What's that?
Guard: Sometimes they die.

* Cordy says says something rude, Giles asks if she's heard of tact:
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Cordelia: So this isn't about you being afraid of hospitals 'cause your friend died and you wanna conjure up a monster that you can fight so you can save everybody and not feel so helpless?
Giles: Cordelia, have you actually ever heard of tact?
Cordelia: Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

* We learn that Buffy had a cousin Celia, and she died when Buffy was young, and Buffy was unable to help. (Superman syndrome)

* Xander gets to be hero for a moment, defending Buffy from Angel by standing guard at the hospital

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For me, the episode as a whole is not really bad it's just very much not particularly good. And their villain was way too much a direct copy of Freddy Krueger.

And, just think--it's still one of my least liked episodes! I can't really post quotes from one of my favs, 'cause I'd just be reposting the entire transcript. 😀 😀
 
Season 1: Out of Sight, Out of Mind -- I just don't think that it was a good ep
Season 2: Bad Eggs -- do I even have to explain
Season 3: Homecoming and Dead Man's Party -- I chose this because I hate the Scoobies in conflict and they where there in this one.
Season 4: Doomed -- It was just plain wrong. I still don't understand the plot.
Season 5: Listen to Fear -- that big roach looking thing...yikes...I hate roaches!
Season 6: DoubleMeat Palace -- This is pretty much on everybodies list I believe. This may be the worst episode ever made.
Season 7: The Killer in Me -- just because I hate Kennedy so much!
I really don't mind Doublemeat Palace. It kinda reminded me of season 1 with the monster of the week thing. Wasn't a good episode, but I don't see anything majorly wrong with it.

And Doomed is awesome :sun2: I love Spike seeing Spike fighting as a good guy for the first time, and it has some really funny bits ("lets rock and roll", lol)
 
All episodes of Season 6 and Season 7.
Isn't that a bit harsh? How about Once More With Feeling, Tabula Rasa, Normal Again, Grave, Selfless, Conversations With Dead People, Storyteller. I take your point, many people are down on these two seasons. But there are some stellar eps in both.
 
I love seasons one and two (as well as three - they're my absolute favorites).
The thing is that with Buffy even the less than perfect episodes are far better than most other televisions best episodes.

When I think of the idea of "worst episodes" I try to think of an episode that I would never want to see again or would skip a rerun of it on FX. I simply can't think of one. I'm shocked that Buffy fans can. Infact I could do it with any other show but Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Episodes from each of my favorite tv shows come to mind from Angel, Veronica Mars, Southpark, Sex and the City, Twin Peaks, hell even the Daily Show but not Buffy.


I must say I'm quite taken aback at the mention of many good episodes especially "The Zeppo" which so slyly reintroduced us to one of our main characters, added the light that he deserves, and amusingly poked fun at itself. These are your opinions which I respect your right to have but...really worst?
I whole-heartedly agree with you on this. Whenever I watch my DVD sets, I just run through each episode - I just don't skip any. Buuuut since I did post in this thread, I do have a few episodes that come to mind that I don't like as much as others (some, which I realize have been mentioned before).

Season 1
"Out of Mind, Out of Sight" (I really don't like whiny characters - just forget about/deal with and move on.)
I, for one, didn't mind the monster-a-week thing. I mean, they really didn't have much to go on at the time and were introducing relationships and characters at this point. You have to give 'em a break on not having too many arcs in this season, especially considering the fact that it's half a season.

Season 2
"Some Assembly Required" (This theme seemed to be a little repetitive within all seasons i.e. "I Was Made to Love You," Adam. This just kind of...seemed the weakest of all.)
"Go Fish" (I'm not really sure why I don't like this much. I remember the dialogue being consistently funny. I just...didn't...like it. *shrug*)
I really liked a lot of the episodes in this season. A lot were mentioned as being the "worst." I liked "Inca Mummy Girl" simply because it was classic how Xander continually falls for some kind of demon or thing. Also, Jonathan had a pretty humorous scene with her. As for "Reptile Boy," well, Xander's experience with the frat boys just did it for me. Then there was "Lie to Me." I really liked this episode. First, it brought back someone from Buffy's past - someone who she thought she could trust, but ultimately couldn't. It was pretty dark at times, too. Second, as mentioned before, was the priceless Angel comment on vampire-wannabes not knowing how they act and dress. I think someone defended "Killed By Death" earlier pretty much. 😛

Season 3
"Dead Man's Party" (Gotta agree with everyone for all the aforementioned reasons.)
"Gingerbread" (Blah. Just...blah.)
*Shrug* I like "Beauty and the Beasts" probably because I'm a Buffy shipper. What can I say? ;]

Season 4
"The Initiative"
"The I in Team"
"Goodbye Iowa"
"Where the Wild Things Are"
^ Can you tell I'm really not a Riley/Initiative fan? :]
Okay, I am definitely in support of "Living Conditions." I'm sorry, but I found it utterly hilarious. Just...wow. What makes it funny is that there are actual roommates out there like that (minus the demon part). "Beer Bad" was salvaged, as said above, by Buffy knocking Parker out. Also, Kal Penn of Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle is in it, so that's a plus right there. ;D

Season 5
"Buffy Vs. Dracula" (Mmm as stated, Dracula just...wasn't working for the show. Heh.)
"Out of My Mind" (See Season 4 bad eps)
"Listening to Fear" (Meh. Really bad idea. I understand Ben wanted to clean up Glory's mess, but...blaaah.)
Okay, I didn't mind "Real Me." I mean, it wasn't my favorite, but at some points, I could understand and feel how Dawn felt. She was certainly annoying at times, but I could deal. With "Into the Woods," well, this has to be the only Riley episode I truly love because he leaves. 😀 "I Was Made to Love You," was good (in my opinion, of course) because it introduced Warren, and without the Buffybot, Spike and Buffy wouldn't have had that scene (drawing a blank in which episode it was) where she goes back to Spike's pretending to be the robot.

Season 6
"All the Way" (Least favorite Halloween episode. It made me sad, although I'm glad it made Dawn not so whiny anymore.)
"Doublemeat Palace" (Pretty much self-explanitory.)
"As You Were" (Eww Riley I thought you said you were gone for good. >.<)
"Hell's Bell's" (Laaaaaaaame. Just when I thought Joss was going to give us one happy relationship.)
Even though I'm a major Bangel shipper, I like Spuffy - I do. This is why I like "Smashed," because even though Buffy doesn't admit it, I know she at least felt something for Spike (deeper than the sex, obviously). I liked "Entropy," because I like Anya.

Season 7
"First Date" (Nooooo. They went from John Ritter as a special guest star to Ashanti? Where's the logic in that?)
Although there weren't too many particular episodes I didn't like much, I think a lot of the other seasons' arcs were just...better. Nearly all of the episodes in this season pertained to the plot and there were very few self-containing episodes. Even though I don't like whiny people, "Help," I have to admit, was a good episode. Especially with the foreshadowing of Spuffy via Cassie. With "Him," you have to admit, it had it's pretty funny scenes - especially that one with Robin Wood. I watch it and it still cracks me up. Although it was truly quite weird seeing Willow as Warren, I think the moral/theme were presented effectively, and it just...wow. I really liked it (as much as I don't like Tara). And, without "Empty Places," we wouldn't have had that special Spuffy moment, and more importantly, Buffy wouldn't have gotten the motivation from him, and later, finding the scythe.

Aaaannnnd that's all. Now, I realize that your opinions are yours and I respect 'em, and mine are mine. So chyeah. And I also realize the majority of people won't read this entire post. Haha.
 
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