XFiles Rewatch Season 1

NotASlayer said:
In some SF books I read, I think Earth had a reputation with the aliens as a navigational hazard because people kept crashlanding on it when they got close.
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What's your thoughts on this recent Chris Carter interview ?
Myself it's damn he really can't let go can he. That and hehas an ending this time he promises....
 
NotASlayer
NotASlayer
That's going to take a bit to listen to!
Btvs fan said:
What's your thoughts on this recent Chris Carter interview ?
Myself it's damn he really can't let go can he. That and hehas an ending this time he promises....
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I have a hard time imagining Anderson saying yes. She was very publicly furious about how they treated Scully in the revival.

It was a great show once, but it has had its time in the sun. Let it pass away gracefully (well, as gracefully as it can at this point).
 
Kendar said:
I have a hard time imagining Anderson saying yes. She was very publicly furious about how they treated Scully in the revival.

It was a great show once, but it has had its time in the sun. Let it pass away gracefully (well, as gracefully as it can at this point).
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It's getting a remake by Ryan Coogler who did Sinners so it won't be.

Also given Carter once said and which you can find online that it was gonna be 5 years then ended I have a hard time believing Anderson will work with him again
 
Re: I'm not saying DS9 didn't have bad moments in the last two seasons, but it didn't suffer like most shows did, and I want to know why?

Re: Carter; Let him write a book if he wants an ending. Sam is dead, or hybridized or with the fairies. Neither character has any living family. The Gunmen are dead. Most of Mulder's enemies are dead. It turns out that all those times you saw aliens, they weren't really aliens. Unless Tommy Westphall is going all out for 2012, like, maximum crossover, or something, the way the X-Files ended in 2002 was fine.
 
thrasherpix said:
The X-Files had some big plot holes at time or leaned too hard into doing something that seems cool but begs questions. I expect that was the case for Skinner helping Krycek despite that Skinner already wanted him for his connection to the abduction of Scully while posing as FBI (and things like murdering Mulder's dad), and Krycek also (with 2 others) viciously beat and robbed Skinner in a hospital stairway. No way am I seeing Skinner helping Krycek.

I wonder if the writers remembered Krycek's past or just didn't care, figuring wouldn't it be cool to have Skinner helping Krycek. But without a really good explanation to explain Skinner's behavior, I don't buy it, nor am I inclined to suspend disbelief for it.
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An X-Files fan in real life (and likes the later episodes as well) explained to me why Krycek helped Skinner, and it was for a reason I could see (Krycek framing and extorting Skinner), especially given how Skinner later stops Krycek for good. From his description, Skinner seemed to hate Krycek even more than Mulder and Scully (who had plenty of reasons of their own).
 
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AlphaFoxtrot said:
Re: I'm not saying DS9 didn't have bad moments in the last two seasons, but it didn't suffer like most shows did, and I want to know why?
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I have a suspicion that, unlike the vast majority of series that go on for more than five seasons, DS9 had some kind of plan for its entire run, not just the first five seasons. S5 ended with the Dominion War kicking off, rather than the typical grand finale most series see. So, there may have least been some kind of outline for all seven seasons and the main plot, as well as for the secondary stories like the Mirror Universe arc.
 
NotASlayer said:
I have a suspicion that, unlike the vast majority of series that go on for more than five seasons, DS9 had some kind of plan for its entire run, not just the first five seasons. S5 ended with the Dominion War kicking off, rather than the typical grand finale most series see. So, there may have least been some kind of outline for all seven seasons and the main plot, as well as for the secondary stories like the Mirror Universe arc.
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It was kind of both. The Dominion War was a plan but it the Paath wraith stuff wasn't. Moore did something similar with the Final 5 nonsense in BSG
 
Btvs fan said:
It was kind of both. The Dominion War was a plan but it the Paath wraith stuff wasn't. Moore did something similar with the Final 5 nonsense in BSG
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That is pretty much what I expected. The Dominion War did feel like there was a plan to it; the pah-wraiths felt like they were cobbled together partly as a way of doing something with Gul Dukat. But that does at least mean there was a plan for a seven season primary arc, though I guess you could have ended, poorly, at S5, and so many shows only have a five season arc planned at best and then fall apart.
 
Oh yeah, the episode with the nanobots, that one was weird. It's amazing, Skinner never seems to have any real power, yet he kept the same job for twenty years. In his situation, I would have taken early retirement and moved to Yellowknife for some peace and quiet.
 
AlphaFoxtrot said:
....It's amazing, Skinner never seems to have any real power, yet he kept the same job for twenty years. In his situation, I would have taken early retirement and moved to Yellowknife for some peace and quiet.
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This came up in another forum I frequent a few years ago, so we did some research. As best we can figure*, he's the Assistant Director in Charge of the Criminal Investigation Division. This means that there are three people above him in the chain of command: Executive Assistant Director (covers 5 divisions including Skinner's), the Deputy director, and the Director.

It also appears that his position is about as far as you go without playing heavy politics.

* Most FBI offices are run by a Special Agent in Charge, but Los Angeles, New York, and DC are run by Assistant Directors. It's POSSIBLE he's the AD in charge of the DC office, but given the things we've seen him have agents do that weren't X-Files related, this seems less likely.

Of course, all this assumes that Carter actually paid any attention to the chain of command.
 
Kendar said:
This came up in another forum I frequent a few years ago, so we did some research. As best we can figure*, he's the Assistant Director in Charge of the Criminal Investigation Division. This means that there are three people above him in the chain of command: Executive Assistant Director (covers 5 divisions including Skinner's), the Deputy director, and the Director.

It also appears that his position is about as far as you go without playing heavy politics.

* Most FBI offices are run by a Special Agent in Charge, but Los Angeles, New York, and DC are run by Assistant Directors. It's POSSIBLE he's the AD in charge of the DC office, but given the things we've seen him have agents do that weren't X-Files related, this seems less likely.

Of course, all this assumes that Carter actually paid any attention to the chain of command.
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Carter's actually claimed he had a plan which is a barefaced lie so even if he said he did I wouldn't believe him
 
NotASlayer
NotASlayer
The Cylons had a plan. Still not really sure what it was...
Re: Kost Amojan; Yes, the Pah Wraiths were largely round robin, with writers picking up fragments from earlier episodes to elaborate on. Like, no, Dukat wasn't supposed to become a Satanic cult leader in Emissary.

Dukat's problem is that Michael Pillar had a much different Occupation in mind than Ira Stephen Behr did. Pillar probably saw a Warsaw Pact Captive Nation style occupation, whereas Behr saw an a cartoonishly evil version of a Axis Wartime occupation. They wrote him as the former, and wrote the Bajorians as ungovernable theocrats who really like elaborate revenge plots for being such a spiritual people. So, they over compensated when they thought they made Hitler a grey character.
 
AlphaFoxtrot said:
Re: Kost Amojan; Yes, the Pah Wraiths were largely round robin, with writers picking up fragments from earlier episodes to elaborate on. Like, no, Dukat wasn't supposed to become a Satanic cult leader in Emissary.

Dukat's problem is that Michael Pillar had a much different Occupation in mind than Ira Stephen Behr did. Pillar probably saw a Warsaw Pact Captive Nation style occupation, whereas Behr saw an a cartoonishly evil version of a Axis Wartime occupation. They wrote him as the former, and wrote the Bajorians as ungovernable theocrats who really like elaborate revenge plots for being such a spiritual people. So, they over compensated when they thought they made Hitler a grey character.
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They could've kept Dukat evil and not had a relationship with Kira but they could've done it in a way without ruining his complexity.
Waltz did a good job, where he's insane and speaking to voices in his head. They didn't need him sleeping with Nurse Ratchet and having cgi eyes
 
Btvs fan said:
They could've kept Dukat evil and not had a relationship with Kira but they could've done it in a way without ruining his complexity.
Waltz did a good job, where he's insane and speaking to voices in his head. They didn't need him sleeping with Nurse Ratchet and having cgi eyes
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I think they may have deliberately gone the way they did to make it absolutely clear that Dukat was not a nice person; going any less and you have a risk of a Spike situation (because I see a lot of similarities between the two characters). DS9 didn't make Buffy's mistake and nailed that coffin shut. Yes, maybe not the best way of doing it, but it seems they wished to firmly stamp down on Dukat's charm getting him into a romanticised evil scumbag situation.
 
Back to the X-Files, season 8 is definitely better than Season 7 (a low bar) and Robert Patrick's Agent Dogget is probably the stand out character and peformance of the season.
He's basically what Drew Goddard was to Buffy Season 7 a breath of fresh air and shot in the arm.
Now don't get me wrong there's still lots of issues this season and the show should've ended years before this but Dogget wasn't one of them
 
@NotASlayer @Kendar @AlphaFoxtrot @thrasherpix @Cohen

Like S7 and S8 I'm only going to watch a few select episodes of S9 and not the whole seaons as I know how miserable that can be but I know the episodes John Doe and 4D are highly regarded So I'll probably watch them and maybe the Finale .

Just curious but did any of you watch the Billy Connelly Xfiles film and if so what did you think of it ?
 
Btvs fan said:
Here's the trailer
Carter said he's working on a Director cut of this film. We will see if that happens though I'm sceptical
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Oh, now I remember it! The second film! (I thought you meant a documentary 😀 ) I didn't think a great deal of it.
 
Here's a question that I thought of after talking to that fan.

How likely would the series (including a spinoff or two) lasted longer and better if one season ends with Mulder vanishing (more or less as it happens in the show, but end it very soon after), and then, after a year to think of new arcs and stories (so not renewed for a new season), make a sequel series of Scully and Doggett? Only now it's Scully searching for Mulder instead of Mulder looking for his sister.

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By the way, I just remembered. What happened to Samantha after she was kidnapped? The alien bounty hunter told Mulder Samantha was still alive and yet I thought it was revealed later that she died young?

Even the fan I talked to didn't know as he was confused by all the Samantha clones.

Btvs fan said:
you watch the Billy Connelly Xfiles film and if so what did you think of it ?
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I did see it, but I barely remember it. All I can say is I liked the movie before (Fight the Future) it a lot better (and I remember the first movie pretty well, unlike Connelly's).

And I have a vague feeling that I liked the start more (perhaps where I was still giving it a chance?) and remember more of it than I do the last half despite I'm sure what I forgot includes many climatic scenes.

I might watch it again when I'm less busy as it's bothering me that I recall so little about it.
 
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