Episode Discussion 1.09 "A Spy In The House Of Love" - Aired 4/10/09 (FOX-USA)

Ever since Man On The Street every episode has been my new favorite one, lol, and its happened again! This one was just so good. I pretty much feel like everyone else that raved about it does so I won't go on and on. Just a few things though... I really liked the format this episode where we we saw the beginning and then they went back and showed us the story of what happened to each active individually from that point. Loved the equal screen time. Adelle is officially my favorite character, she's so interesting, so many layers! As soon as Victor gave the little old lady the flowers I was like this is weird, that little old lady is a dirty sex fiend that hires dolls, I couldn't see it. Then he kept walking and as soon as he got in the car my brain started clicking... wait, Adelle is "away" for the weekend and Victor is clearly off to see someone else, the little old lady is just a cover, OMG ADELLE IS MRS. LONELY HEARTS!!! I was proud of myself for catching on to that before we actually saw her standing there, I'm usually awful at guessing stuff. I'm not okay with Echo having a new handler *pouts* They're bonded! He needs to continue to be the one watching her back! This is like the Council firing Giles and Wesely showing up all over again! :silly: But seriously, Echo wants Boyd, this new handler thing just won't take, I know it.
 
I am starting watch Dollhouse becuase it the crators from Buffy the vampire slayer lol !!!. Its really good ,i am really enjoying it in my head lol you know when you watch a good film and it in your head . You have to watch it again , again ,again lol that like me with Dollhouse lol 😀😀 so far i give Dollhouse 8/10 But it not better then Buffy maybe ANGEL LOL 😀 🙂 😀🙂
 
Ever since Man On The Street every episode has been my new favorite one, lol, and its happened again! QUOTE]

I agree, except this one ties with episode 8. Actually they're possibly all tied. I just think this show is turning out so well. Millie and Ballard break my heart and I really hope Victor and Sierra get to continue at some point even though they got their 'closure'.
 
I finally got round to watching this ep sober now. Honestly since I havent seen it for a couple weeks I have kinda lost the urge to keep watching. I havent yet got the next ep either and previously I was wanting to see it as soon as possible. But for this episode, I did like it. I really like Echos character. Victors accent was shocking as most pointed out and I keep hearing Sierra slip up with hers aswell. I totally didnt see Adelle coming as 'Miss Lonely Hearts', I felt really sorry for her.

I had suspected that Dominic was the spy but didnt think he would get caught in this ep, I was thinking they would reveal it to the audience and then leave it hanging for a few weeks until the Dollhouse found out. I didnt for a second believe that Ivy was the spy, when Sierra was going into the elevator and the man on the phone said "Its taken care of" I knew it was a set up. I am a little bit confused with whos the big bads. Was the chip in the chair from the NSA? Are the imprints with secret messages to Paul from the NSA? I thought they were when Mellie said that their man inside had been caught but where does Alpha fit in to all this? I almost cried when I saw Pauls face when he realised Mellie was a doll. It was so sad and I really wish it hadnt happened. I didnt want him to know about her for a while yet, or like ever cos I didnt want him to be sad 🙁 LOL For a character I had no interest in from the beginning, he is definatly growing on me.

The wipe/attic scene with Dominic was a little bit over dramatic. Why wouldnt they have just sedated him or at least tied him up before putting him in the chair? When he reached for the gun I thought he was trying to shoot himself in the head, why wouldnt they just let him? Mind you I spose they do need him again incase the NSA comes sniffing but surely they will find out that he has been exposed.

I liked Dominics little speech to Echo in the van, I think I will have to watch that scene a few times over to try and process it and figure out where the story is going. I am loving the twists and turns and big reveals, I am always kept guessing. Its nice to see a show that I havent been spoiled in yet! It does feel to be moving a bit fast tho. I suspect Joss might be trying to wrap it up incase there isnt a second season. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.
 
SPY IN THE HOUSE OF LOVE

The good;
Exciting ep, the first I ever went back and rewatched immediately after again, Very clever mislead in the first scene, we think it's Dewitt getting wiped. The humanisation of Dewitt continues and it's beautifully written and played by all concerned. Good scene too between Ballard and Mellie, your heart bleeds for him.

The bad;
Echo the spycatcher wonders why Dr Saunders doesn't leave the Dollhouse? Possibly HER DISFIGURED FACE?! No commentary which is a real shame. The Sierra stuff is ok but we've seen it all before.

Best line;
Dominic "Sooner or later everyone get's there's" (Here's hoping!)
also like
Echo "I've got a good feeling about you and I've got the whip"
and
Dewitt (on the idea of Victor the imprinted Doll becoming a client of the Dollhouse and hiring another Doll for his pleasure) "I think the universe might just collapse!"

Packing heat; Dewitt pretty handy with her foil, Dominic with his Glock
Echo;5
Boyd; 6
Dominic; 7
Sierra; 3
Victor; 2

Echo kissage;
By request this new topic will be included.

Kinky dinky;
Ramirez wishes to be kidnapped by a pirate (I have a friend with an almost identical fantasy, differs only in that she get's tied to the mast Ulysees style and the whole of Johnny Depp's pirate crew are involved). Suprisingly Dr Saunders says that the actives aren't submissives, I'd have thought that would have been a hugely popular choice for clients (what about Sierra who begs her client to hurt her?).
Ok I'll say it now. Dominatrix Echo is the SEXIEST THING EVER! My god she's gorgeous! Sexier than Mathilda May in Lifeforce, sexier than Athen Massey in Undercover, sexier than Alyssa Milano in The Outer Limits, Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman, than Charisma Carpenter and Mercedes McNab in Playboy, than Ripley at the end of Alien or even ED's own bikini fashion parade in The New Guy. Needless to say it was a sequence that featured endlessly all over the internet, TV and magazines and I earnestly believe was the sole reason that Dollhouse got a second season. If only they'd tried something similar to get a third! (Echo the naughty schoolgirl/stewardess/hot cop etc, we've already had her as a nurse in Tru Calling)
And here it lives forever in cyberspace (plus some interesting comments by ED on how she approached the role and how much she enjoyed playing it); [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCOGkxg_QA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCOGkxg_QA[/ame])
Now if you'll excuse me I just have to lie down for a moment!

Notches on the Dollhouse bedpost; Victor/Adele. Not sure if Dominatrx Echo actually had sex with her client or not, some Dominatrixes do, some don't.
Echo; 3 definite, 1 possible
November; 1
Ballard; 1
Victor; 1
Adele; 1

How'd they get away with that?
Dominic getting wiped is hard to watch even after all the things he's done.

This weeks fantasy;
Echo is a dominatrix and a spycatcher. Victor is Roger the romantic, Sierra a spy.

Total number personalitites; 2 for Echo, 1 each for Victor and Sierra
Echo; 16
Sierra; 7
Victor; 4
November; 2

Total dolls; 6
Echo, Sierra, November, Victor, Mike, Tango

Addy is a bit British;
Her ideal lover is called Roger, second name Moore perhaps? She also uses the term 'Crackerjack' which will mean a lot to a Briton of a certain age but little to the rest of the world (does she have the requisite pencil?).

Topher is a bit geeky;

Subverting the Hollywood cliche;

Bondage;
Sierra tied up; 1

Knocked out;
Echo; 2
November; 1
Sierra; 1
Victor; 1

Kills;
Sierra; 2 kills
Echo; 1
November;1

Dolls injured;
Echo roughed up by Dominic, Victor cut by Dewitt. Poor Ramirez hurt for a second time by Echo, this time with the whip (which is probably far preferrable to the fire extinguisher for her!) .

Capt subtext;
In the van dominatrix Echo talks of S&M being about trust and surrendering yourself completely to another. This actually is a good analogy of the handler active relationship and what Topher tells Boyd when he first meet Echo. Dr Saunders comments on the many same sex relationships the actives are called out to do. Victor comments that he wants to keep his collection of high powered businesswoman shoes. Ramirez says she'd prefer S&M Barbie Echo to suave ladykiller Victor.

Happy hookers
Boyd considers the Dollhouse 'pimps and killers', himself included.

Know the face?
5 Whedon alumni-Mark Shepherd, Amy Acker, walking action figure, Eliza Dushku, Jim Piddock

Guantanamo;
So who is we? Who is sending the messages to Ballard? Dominic and the NSA? That makes no sense and seems unlikely, is there more than one person inside trying to bring it down?
Dominic is intent on torturing Ivy for info. Almost reassuring that the goverment want to control the Dollhouse, the NSA may have little oversight but at least it has some. The idea of the attic is just so scary

Fanfic;
Dominatrix Echo the most popular whipcracker since Calamity Jane. (Birthdate Verification Page if you're 18+ and VERY open minded)

Missing scenes;

Reminds me off;
Mixed segments Quentin Tarantino style. Ballard is reminiscent of season 5 Wes in his obsession whilst sleeper assassin Mellie is like season 7 Spike. Sierra at the NSA is very Mission Impossible but even more Alias.

Breaking the programming;
Echo not only volunteers to help Topher but comprehends the purpose of the chair. Dewitt and Toper know but allow her to continue.

Questions and observations;
Echo waves to Mellie who seems to know her, as Echo or as Caroline from Ballards research? Victor refers Dewitt as 'Katherine', is that her real name? (gives credence to the 'She's Caroline's mother' theory).
The Miss-Lonely-Heart storyline has actually been mentioned a few times in previous eps. Note Topher suspects it's Boyd who has betrayed the Dollhouse but still goes to give him a chance to run before informing Dominic, he really does consider him a friend (or has his own doubts and wants to bring the Dollhouse down)
Fan bloody-tastic, second best ep of season 1
Marks out of 10; 9/10
 
It was my favorite season 1 episode till I watched Briar Rose. 😀 The fight scene between Echo and Dominic is awesome. I never thought it could be Mister Dominic. I like him more since he's not just a typical security head. 😉

I feel sorry for Adelle. She's not just a cold heart woman anymore. <3 And Victor is just HOT!

Sierra is so Sydney Bristow. How could she run on high heels like that? O_O

9/10 Almost perfect.
 
It was my favorite season 1 episode till I watched Briar Rose. 😀 The fight scene between Echo and Dominic is awesome. I never thought it could be Mister Dominic. I like him more since he's not just a typical security head. 😉

I feel sorry for Adelle. She's not just a cold heart woman anymore. <3 And Victor is just HOT!

Sierra is so Sydney Bristow. How could she run on high heels like that? O_O

9/10 Almost perfect.

Maybe Dana Scully taught her?
 
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Probably. LOL :D
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