Angel & Faith #1 or Buffy #1?

Which #1 was better: Angel and Faith or BtVS?


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Now that the first issue of both series have been released, which one did you think was better?

Personally, I liked Angel & Faith's first issue much more than Buffy's. The writing, story, and art was miles better.
 
No debate about it, Angel and Faith #1

I had better art and the story was so much better. A&F teased us with so many stories that are going to be part of the book, and also managed to pack in some great action and some Angel and Faith moments. And honestly, who didn't love that scene in the beginning with Giles? Badass. And in general A&F seems to have a much tighter story and knows what it wants to do, the first issue of Buffy didn't have much going on. It's still the first issue so i'm not panicking

Buffy needs to pick up it's quality, because Angel and Faith is showing us great promise
 
Heh. Apparently I rep you too much Caesar, and have to spread some around before I can do it again. I do seem to agree with every post of yours I see... lol

Its the character moments that I am so fond of in A&F. The scenes with Angel and Faith reflecting on season 8, reading Giles thoughts, etc. Buffy doesn't have that, and judging by Scott Allies latest interview, they aren't going to focus on the past and will just focus full speed ahead on the future.

I do so love the slow character interaction and development that all oh the Angel franchise (show, books, etc) has used. I think Buffy's book could benefit from it.
 
VisionGirl
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ITA about AtS.
Have to go with Angel & Faith by far being the best - what was the big difference for me? with A&F I felt like I was dealing with mature adults and that the themes were presented with a very serious quality and great emotional impact. With Buffy, they only thing that I felt was a great deal of sorrow for Buffy - but there was little else that I found particularly interesting. Buffy hiding her sorrow, pain and guilt from the events of BS8 by trying to play act and turning into the party drunk was very painful to see. Having that man yelling out in that juggling scene "naked" to me was a horrible statement on the character and where she is right now. To have Willow describe her drunken actions as adorable - talk about a crazy upside down world.

Love the artwork for Angel & Faith and I thought that Georges Jeanty did some very good images when showing Buffy in her shame and grief in the morning after panels.
 
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I notice the people who voted for Buffy #1 haven't shared why they like it more? Come on, people; tell us!
 
I notice the people who voted for Buffy #1 haven't shared why they like it more? Come on, people; tell us!

[MENTION=11031]Aloverssoulz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=8557]Skytteflickan88[/MENTION] are the only ones who voted for Buffy so far. I would also enjoy hearing some reasons why people believe Buffy #1 is better than A&F #1 too
 
I haven't read either as of yet but I'm going off of the summaries people have kindly posted. Angel and Faith seems to go straight to the action, whereas the first issue of Buffy seems to be more introductory and trying to establish a lighter tone than where it left off last season. I think Buffy will get better as it goes on, there must be a reason for that kind of lighthearted opening. However, despite not being a huge Angel/Faith fan, it does seem to be superior at the moment.
 
[MENTION=11031]Aloverssoulz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=8557]Skytteflickan88[/MENTION] are the only ones who voted for Buffy so far. I would also enjoy hearing some reasons why people believe Buffy #1 is better than A&F #1 too

Well, let's face it, that issue was a big "Let's explain a few of the things that made you crazy with confusion and anger in Season 8" which I appreciated, but it wasn't much of a issue. It felt like a "necassary" issue, you know what I mean? Needed to make sense of it all, but not very entertaining. It was good, but not as good as Freefall. Better than a lot of season 8 issues though.

I think it's also partly because I like the Buffy gang more than Angel & Faith(and the Buffy comics has Spike, lets not forget that). And I like the fun drama of Freefall, more than the "Oh, Angel did something bad and he needs to redeem himself" plot, which I'm so tired off by now. I'm glad it took a new direction, specially now that it seems he like he was dumb and possessed in season 8, not dumb and evil. But, that means that the old storyline of "I was souless/not myself but I still regret what I did" is kind of repeated. Atleast they didn't make him out to be possessed all the time by Twilight. Then it would be that damn old storyline.

So while I appreciate both that we got some closure and a new-ish direction for Angel (and Faith, glad she gets a new story), Freefall was lighter, filled with characters I can admire, and had Joss' writing. And they published my letter.

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Have to go with Angel & Faith by far being the best - what was the big difference for me? with A&F I felt like I was dealing with mature adults and that the themes were presented with a very serious quality and great emotional impact. With Buffy, they only thing that I felt was a great deal of sorrow for Buffy - but there was little else that I found particularly interesting. Buffy hiding her sorrow, pain and guilt from the events of BS8 by trying to play act and turning into the party drunk was very painful to see. Having that man yelling out in that juggling scene "naked" to me was a horrible statement on the character and where she is right now. To have Willow describe her drunken actions as adorable - talk about a crazy upside down world.

Love the artwork for Angel & Faith and I thought that Georges Jeanty did some very good images when showing Buffy in her shame and grief in the morning after panels.


You know, I had begun to write a post saying I saw things diffrently,then I re-read the issue, and I see what youre' saying, but I still like Freefall more.

While I see the emotional impact and seriousness you speak of in Angel & Faith, I feel that and see that it's a great story that promises more, while Freefall was less serious and didn't make us think something horrible was going to happen later on (I don't think Buffy slept with Xander), but I'm also bored by it. But to be fair to the issue, I was bored of the "Angel's bad, he needs to redeem himself" story while the show was still running. Thank God they added Faith.

I do see how Buffy's trying to pretend it's all better and having fun at the party, and how's that bad, but I think she needed to make this misstake, and probably lots of other misstakes, to move on. She's not hiding in guilt, she's making an effort. The possibility that she was taken advantage is horrible, and if we could have skipped that part I would feel better about the issue(it would have been better if she had been fine with having sex with someone unknown when drunk), but I think the positives are more than the negatives.

Freefall mixed fun, with action, with drama, with inner turmoil. I just didn't get the same "high" from reading A&G, for reasons stated above.
 
Thanks for explaining your reasoning, Skytteflickan88. I'd looked at the poll results and the replies to the thread and couldn't understand why the one's who preferred Buffy didn't reply. It was rather strange.

I can see why you prefer Buffy. Even I'll admit the Angel seeking redemption thing is kind of old.

I plan on making topics like this for each issue number. It'll be interesting to see if the results of these polls change over the course of the season.
 
I loved them both equally but I'm more invested in BtVS, so I picked BtVS. I've already listed why I loved the Buffy issue in the Freefall thread.
 
A&F looks more like a plot driven story, Buffy character driven tale. I like more the Buffy take.
 
A&F looks more like a plot driven story, Buffy character driven tale.

Really? How so? Angel & Faith took us into the minds of the characters and their emotions, whereas in Buffy's first issue the plot consisted of her getting drunk, partying, and possibly having sex with a friend or stranger.

I think you got the two reversed.
 
And they published my letter.
oh c'mon admit it: that's the main issue that you liked it better! 😀. It was so cool to see one of our members in there. I mean I know that you are a member of other boards, but I think we all claimed you as "ours" when we saw it. Yay, we know someone famous lol!
 
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I have to admit, it's a big reason why I like Freefall. Hopefully not the main one! And I'm glad you feel like I'm one of you. I was afraid I'd get lost on this big board with many big personalities.
[MENTION=9865]Anca[/MENTION] och [MENTION=11302]The Scourge[/MENTION]

I kind of agree with both of you. It depends how one messures development. While A&F seemed to dive into the plot and have the character development as a second priority (it seemed a bit rushed) Freefall seemed to have the plot as second priority, kind of threw in the demons while focusing on Buffy's dilemma. But I still think we got a greater look into the A&F characters. It was more crammed. But not in a good way. It felt rushed.

I guess while Buffy "showed" more development in the character Buffy throughout the entire issue, panel by panel, in A&F, we were "told" more about the characters' development(the Angel story felt specially rushed, when they explained the entire Twilight deal in just a few panels).

A&F was more packed with everything, both plot and character development, while Buffy took it slow, which I appreciate.

Anyone follow? It could be that I need a re-read of A&F. I read Buffy twice, A&F once.
 
A&F was much more interesting, to be honest. 🙂 But I gotta admit Freefall had more humor, haha!
 
I have to agree with the majority here that Angel & Faith was the more interesting issue.

I kinda figured that would be the case before I even read them.

A&F has all the trappings and potential to deliver great pulpy horror/detective stories each month.

Whereas with Buffy Season 9, it seems we're in for a lot of reality woes - "Oh noes! Howsa mah pay the bills this month?! What a cruel world! Imma need some guilt-ridden bi-curious sex to relieve the pain!" yadda yadda yadda....
 
VisionGirl
VisionGirl
LOL, you are too funny!
Angel and Faith has better artwork and a more compelling, emotional story, imho. Redemption is far more resonant for me, than someone floundering about in their twenties. I'm going to give the Buffy story a few more issues, but I'm not hopeful. I was surprised how strongly I felt about it. I read 'Freefall' several times, but didn't get anything from it.
 
Voted for Buffy, although A&F is very close. But BtVS has Buffy, Spike, Xander, Willow, Dawn - I love them so much! 🙂

Shouldn't you be voting on the quality and writing of the book, not the characters in the book? I don't understand your logic. It seems like blind fanboy-ism to like everything that has the Scoobies in it
 
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