Anyone heard the Doctor Who news?

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Jodie- and best of all- Chris Chibnall are leaving after this coming season and a few specials.

I’m very excited that this era is finally coming to an end, I thought for sure they’d keep it going until the 60th anniversary which would have been awful.
I just hope the next writer they find is on the level of at least Moffat and as for the doctor, I kind of hope they cast another woman, but one that will work. Just to prove it’s not gender that was the issue. Sarah Jane Smith would have been an excellent doctor.
 
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Not seen any of it, but I think the writing is the key, so think your probably right.
I commented on it yesterday. It's sad. Doesn't feel like Jodie had been there that long and then with a shortened season and all. They did her wrong. Justice4Jodie. I feel bad for her.
 
I commented on it yesterday. It's sad. Doesn't feel like Jodie had been there that long and then with a shortened season and all. They did her wrong. Justice4Jodie. I feel bad for her.
Well we’ve had like 5 years with Jodie, if anything the BBC did her dirty because they took forever to get the seasons out and she had less episodes from day one. They were slightly longer episodes but I still don’t think it adds up.
 
The show could probably do with a break. Extremely difficult to keep a never ending saga fresh and interesting. I powered through the end of the Capaldi series but felt between a drop in quality and my interest levels it was hard work.
 
The show could probably do with a break. Extremely difficult to keep a never ending saga fresh and interesting. I powered through the end of the Capaldi series but felt between a drop in quality and my interest levels it was hard work.
Personally, Series 11 and 12 are the worst but Capaldi's last series which was series 10 was brilliant for me and certainly I feel it was the best of his era.
 
Personally, Series 11 and 12 are the worst but Capaldi's last series which was series 10 was brilliant for me and certainly I feel it was the best of his era.
I should have said Capaldi era because I can't remember one series from another. Felt it was a mixed bag throughout but with the average to bad outweighing the good to great. Still not sure how much I put down to me losing interest and how much due to the actual quality.
 
Honestly, they destroyed the show and I don't really feel confident that bringing in new people are going to fix it. Realistically, maybe if the show goes away for several years then it could reboot as something decent again.

But I am happy that Chibnall and Whittaker are leaving. At least we hopefully won't have to listen to them badmouth the series and fans anymore.
 
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I’m happy to forget this era ever happened so it hasn’t ruined the show for me.
Honestly, they destroyed the show and I don't really feel confident that bringing in new people are going to fix it. Realistically, maybe if the show goes away for several years then it could reboot as something decent again.

But I am happy that Chibnall and Whittaker are leaving. At least we hopefully won't have to listen to them badmouth the series and fans anymore.
I agree with you 100%
 
Honestly, they destroyed the show and I don't really feel confident that bringing in new people are going to fix it.
Is it just the #HartnellFirst thing that destroyed it, or more than that?

won't have to listen to them badmouth the series and fans anymore.
That doesn't really bother me. Though I am not what you would call a "fan" either, so...

Maybe that's why I liked Whittaker
 
Is it just the #HartnellFirst thing that destroyed it, or more than that?


That doesn't really bother me. Though I am not what you would call a "fan" either, so...

Maybe that's why I liked Whittaker
Other writers have added to the canon whilst Chibnall just destroyed existing canon and replaced it with his own and now that he has done his damage, is running off.
 
Other writers have added to the canon whilst Chibnall just destroyed existing canon and replaced it with his own and now that he has done his damage, is running off.
He just upgraded it. I thought the origin story was kinda cool actually. It opens the door up for a lot of new stories.
 
He just upgraded it. I thought the origin story was kinda cool actually. It opens the door up for a lot of new stories.
I like the idea of the Timeless Child my only problem with it is that it is the Doctor, like everything usually is and that is a problem me and many others have.
 
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Jodie- and best of all- Chris Chibnall are leaving

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I just hope the next writer they find is on the level of at least Moffat

Hopefully Amy Pond era Moffat at least. I thought Moffat's writing went downhill when Clara Oswald was introduced because he seemed to have some sort of hard on for her where she would always be pushed front and centre, even over the Doctor., I prefer Kennedy to Clara, that's how much the character irritated me. I was actually on the verge of quitting Doctor Who during the Clara years, it was only the news she was leaving that kept me watching. She should've gone in the rip off facehuggers episode but Moffat chose to do several fake outs which was annoying. She finally got killed off by the Raven (her own fault) but then Moffat ruined that episode by bringing her back.

and as for the doctor, I kind of hope they cast another woman, but one that will work. Just to prove it’s not gender that was the issue.

Whilst I can see your point, I hope they do go back to a man because the Doctor was and always had been male. The problem is that you've got a vocal minority constantly making a massive deal out of gender and race (exaggerating and blowing things out of proportion, and let's be honest they're not the most pleasant of people behaviour wise), and it looks like they're being pandered to when you have a female Doctor or a POC Doctor. The issue isn't so much that the Doctor might be female or POC, it's the stuff that surrounds it which gets people's backs up.

I am so happy with the news especially since Chibnall is leaving and he is the main reason why the show has fallen in quality.

He destroyed the mythology of the show with the Timeless Children arc. Had he not done that, then he'd still be disliked because of the preachiness he injected into the series, but he wouldn't be hated as much as he is.

The show could probably do with a break. Extremely difficult to keep a never ending saga fresh and interesting. I powered through the end of the Capaldi series but felt between a drop in quality and my interest levels it was hard work.

I gave up. I made it up to the Bill episodes but I just couldn't carry on. I'd miss one episode and not care, then it became two episodes, three, four, etc. I didn't even watch Capaldi regenerating. Capaldi just didn't gel as the Doctor for me. I haven't even watched the new year's day special.

Honestly, they destroyed the show and I don't really feel confident that bringing in new people are going to fix it. Realistically, maybe if the show goes away for several years then it could reboot as something decent again.

But I am happy that Chibnall and Whittaker are leaving. At least we hopefully won't have to listen to them badmouth the series and fans anymore.

Agreed. The show started getting too preachy and nobody wants to be lectured by a show they watch for entertainment. I did prefer the most recent version of the Master over Missy though.

Other writers have added to the canon whilst Chibnall just destroyed existing canon and replaced it with his own and now that he has done his damage, is running off.

Chibnall was the worst thing to happen to the Doctor since the Time War.
 
The show started getting too preachy
I never noticed that. It was not anymore preachy than it was before. They were just more subtle and nuanced about it in the past and didn't hit you over the head. It was always preachy and trying to teach morality.
 
I never noticed that. It was not anymore preachy than it was before. They were just more subtle and nuanced about it in the past and didn't hit you over the head. It was always preachy and trying to teach morality.

The global warming and plastics in the ocean episodes were pretty on the nose. They didn't just hit you over the head, they tried to bash your skull in.
 
I think its too late for the show to be saved without some kind of hiatus and then finding a writer to clear up Chibnal's mess. He was- and I cannot stress this enough- an awful choice because he's a terrible writer, can't write dialogue or develop characters.

Jodie's Doctor has been the worst ever; flat, inconsistently written and worst of all out of character; the last one should not be possible and yet the writers managed it quite early on. Watching 'Kablam!' make it obvious the writers have zero clue about the Doctor's core values.

And finally they completely changed the nature of the Doctor- in a way that makes zero sense- for basically no reason. The killed off the Time Lords AGAIN after season after season of the Time war, the regressed the Master in a way that made zero sense in a desperate bid to placate fans.
Maybe another show runner could re-con or patch some of what's been inflicted on the franchise but fundamentally it will be difficult to attract fans back to the show.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic, for a really dedicated fan's take I give you this:

Warning, its a long one ( 5hours!) and there's some adult language, but its comprehensive about the season's multiple problems and no, its not an angry rant, some of its actually rather funny.
 
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