Anyone want to see the new Tarzan Movie?

Washburne said:
Tarzan may be pretty well known, although nothing compared to 20 years ago and before but without marketing who are gonna rush to see the movie?
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That 20 year gap might very well work as an advantage in this case. The majority of today's movie goers won't actually have all that vivid an image of what Tarzan should actually be. The name is familiar, everyone knows that he's the muscled up guy who swings around in the trees in Africa, but that's about it. There aren't going to be all that many people around to compare Skarsgard to Weissmuller. This movie doesn't have to "live up" to any of its predecessors.

The reaction to the trailers that I have seen at the movies seems pretty positive. It's got as good special effects as anything that I've seen lately, and, without actually saying it, Tarzan is being presented as exactly what he always actually was: a superhero. Tarzan was one of the very first superheros, literally. given the popularity of superhero movies today, I would say that that gives it at least a fair shot.

Now, let's compare LOT to another recent Burroughs offering, "John Carter." Called one of the biggest movie flops in history, it managed to pull in just over $300 million in ticket sales, quite impressive for a flop. If it had stayed within its $175 million budget, the "flop" would have probably had at least one sequel by now, with the third in production. LOT stayed within its $180 million budget, so if it only does as well as JC, it will still be profitable, and we may very well see Skarsgard pumping up for another swing through the trees in the next few years.
 
It's at 25% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter, and a 2/5 on metacritic. There is a reason why it was embargoed until the day it was released.
 
Mr. Pole said:
There is a reason why it was embargoed until the day it was released.
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Review embargoes are never a good thing. I can't recall any movie that was embargoed, yet was actually positively reviewed.
 
white avenger said:
Encouraging, or at least hopeful...

Hollywood Reporter: Box Office Predictions for Legend of Tarzan are Inching Upward Toward $35M

We may have a winner here.
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35 million sounds about right. I think the people that want to see this will go see it but it won't have any staying power over the weeks. The late embargo is not a good sign. That's what they did for Fantastic Four and Independence Day 2 and those were bombs. Hopefully Tarzan will be a better movie.
 
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white avenger
Independence Day 2 won't be released until July 1, same as Tarzan. How can it be a bomb before it even premiers?
I have no interest in this. The story has never grabbed me and unless they update the Jane role and make her a stronger character I don't see much point.
 
There have been a lot of good reports at The John Carter Files from the special presentation, just for the press and selected guests, that leads me to hold onto the hope that this will be a successful movie, spawning sequels, and maybe even a renewed interest in Burroughs' other works. There's a film version of "Carson of Venus" in the works, and the Burroughs family are actually in negotiations for more John Carter projects, whether as a sequel, a fresh start, or even possibly a TV series, either animated or live. To paraphrase that old Thark saying, "Leave a Burroughs fan the hope for a good movie review and the possibility for more, and we will always be hopeful." (Not as snappy as "Leave a Thark his head and one hand, and he will still prevail," but you get the idea)
 
white avenger said:
There have been a lot of good reports at The John Carter Files from the special presentation, just for the press and selected guests, that leads me to hold onto the hope that this will be a successful movie, spawning sequels, and maybe even a renewed interest in Burroughs' other works.
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You should just hold out hope that you like it, before you start worrying about sequels that will never happen.
 
@white avenger : Independence Day 2 won't be released until July 1, same as Tarzan. How can it be a bomb before it even premiers

Independence Day 2 came out last weekend on the 24th. And Tarzan comes out today. At least in America. I've heard mixed reviews for Tarzan so far.
 
white avenger said:
Independence Day 2 won't be released until July 1, same as Tarzan. How can it be a bomb before it even premiers
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As Fuffy Bath said it came out last week. What's a flopp or not depends on your perspective.

“Independence Day: Resurgence” didn’t set off any early fireworks at the U.S. box office over the weekend. The sequel to the 1996 hit (the highest-grossing movie of its year) only opened with $41.6 million. To put things into perspective, the original “Independence Day” kicked off to $50.2 million, back when tickets were less than half of what they are priced at now. But executives at Fox might not be sweating too much, since “Resurgence” (which cost $165 million) did much better internationally with a tally of $102.1 million abroad. In China, it scored an impressive $37.3 million debut.

Still, it’s troubling for Hollywood that the sequel named after a patriotic summer holiday wouldn’t generate more interest among U.S. ticket buyers.

3 Reasons Why ‘Independence Day: Resurgence’ Bombed at the U.S. Box Office
 
Washburne said:
Still, it’s troubling for Hollywood that the sequel named after a patriotic summer holiday wouldn’t generate more interest among U.S. ticket buyers.
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Maybe everyone was waiting to see the Tarzan movie, then watch ID2 later in the week.

(That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it)

Whatever happens, I'm not giving up hope yet. I think Tarzan's gonna take the gold, and you can attribute that to Jackson's participation in the movie if you want to. I'll take it that way just fine, as long as it means a chance for renewed interest in Burroughs movies.

We've got David Innes, Carson Napier, and Ulysses Paxton all lined up to take their turns, and John Carter's itching for his second run.
 
A little early to pop the champagne corks yet, but still...

5 Reasons Why 'Tarzan' Beat Expectations at the Box Office


This is good news to me, and to make it even sweeter, my mother, who was a real Tarzan fan long before I was born, would have been 100 Sunday.

We're not in the "summer blockbuster" league yet, but, given the current Hollywood trend, sequels are a definite possibility, which goes further in my hoped for resurgence in interest in Burroughs related projects. It worked for Robert Downey and "Iron Man" for Marvel, so I've moved past "hopeful" on to "encouraged."
 
Doing better than expected is obviously a positive but still how good is it overall when expectations were it was gonna flop big time?

white avenger said:
5 Reasons Why 'Tarzan' Beat Expectations at the Box Office
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While those figures are better than expected, Warners should hold off on breaking out the champagne: "Tarzan" will need all the overseas money it can get if it wants to recoup its rumored $180 million budget.

The movie will have to gross about $720 million worldwide to break even. As much of an overperformer as "Tarzan" has been so far, there seems little chance of passing that milestone and turning a profit.

I haven't kept track on how it's doing neither in the US or overseas.
 
Washburne said:
Doing better than expected is obviously a positive but still how good is it overall when expectations were it was gonna flop big time?


While those figures are better than expected, Warners should hold off on breaking out the champagne: "Tarzan" will need all the overseas money it can get if it wants to recoup its rumored $180 million budget.

The movie will have to gross about $720 million worldwide to break even. As much of an overperformer as "Tarzan" has been so far, there seems little chance of passing that milestone and turning a profit.

I haven't kept track on how it's doing neither in the US or overseas.
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I wouldn't worry about the money. Hollywood accounting is far more creative than Hollywood movies.
 
As of 7-13:

With a $2.5M Monday, Legend of Tarzan Reaches $84.3M, should cross $100M on 3rd Weekend

Coming up on $100 million U S ticket sales just coming up on the 3rd weekend isn't anything to sneeze at, especially seeing as how so many critics have gone to lengths explaining why no one should bother to see it.

And here:

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Legend-of-Tarzan-The#tab=summary

We're looking at a worldwide total earnings to date of almost $144 million worldwide. Granted, that doesn't compare with the first "Avengers" movie, but I still see that as a pretty good indication that somebody did something right somewhere. Certainly good enough to consider a follow up with the movie inspired by the 3rd in the series, "The Beasts Of Tarzan," considering that the end of "Legend" seems to be pretty much headed in that direction.

For those who might be interested, "The Beasts" of Tarzan involves the kidnapping of Clayton's infant son, shown being born at the end of "Legend." Tarzan recruits 3 friends, Akut (the Mangani), Mbonga (the African tribesman) and Sheeta, a leopard (they would probably substitute one of the lions) to track down the kidnappers, who were Russian in the book, but could just as easily have been German. Maybe just coincidence, but maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
Washburne said:
While those figures are better than expected, Warners should hold off on breaking out the champagne: "Tarzan" will need all the overseas money it can get if it wants to recoup its rumored $180 million budget.
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Can we pop the corks now?

Legend of Tarzan Logs $11.1M Weekend; US Total Now $103.5M; Global Total $194M

And as is pointed out in this article, the movie hasn't even opened yet in China, Brazil, and Spain. China is always a big market for this type movie, as is Brazil.
 
white avenger said:
Can we pop the corks now?

Legend of Tarzan Logs $11.1M Weekend; US Total Now $103.5M; Global Total $194M
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I guess it depends. Does the box office show the profit the movie is getting or simply how much people payed to watch it? If it's the first they're already making a profit. If it's the second they still got more than $500 million to go to get even. Quite the difference wouldn't you say? Maybe I'm wrong in how I'm viewing it.

So if it's the first by all means, pop the champagne. If it's the second I personally would wait a while longer.
 
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