Bangel and Dangel Parallels

-In Surprise, Angel had sex with Buffy, and he lost his soul because of the "pure happiness rule" of the curse; during their successive meeting, Angelus (feigning to be Angel) insulted Buffy, implicitly telling her that "she is a whore".
-In Reprise and Epiphany, Angel had sex with Darla, he awoke similarly, but he didn't lose his soul; also, he gave Darla the ring as a payment, treating her implicitly as a whore.
Also, after Darla and Angel had sex in Epiphany, Darla says to Angel: "Was I not good?" similarly to Buffy in "Innocence".
 
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Joan the Vampire Slayer
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Wow! Had never thought of these.
I always loved the parallel "Was it me? Was I not good?" from both Buffy and Darla after sleeping with Angel.

Also, both women tell Angel to "close your eyes" before killing him - Darla by siring him, Buffy by sending him to hell.

Buffy and Darla are basically foils for each other when it comes to their relationships with Angel. Darla is the dark - she is Angelus' soulmate, the deepest, worst part of him, whereas Buffy is the light - Angel's soulmate and the best part of him. Both women have deep impacts on him and both essentially help to shape him into the person he is.

Funnily, each woman actually brings out the opposite side in him; when he sleeps with Buffy he loses his soul and reverts to the monster. When he sleeps with Darla, not only does he have his epiphany and return to the light, but they conceive Connor, a human with a soul who is, as Darla puts it "the one good thing" they did together.

Another interesting take on the Buffy/Angel/Darla dynamic is shown in this GIFset, which I don't 100% agree with but it is a very interesting take on Angel's feelings for both Darla and Buffy:

 
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Wow, this is so interesting! Thanks for posting.
Adding to the Suprise/Reprise parallels, in Suprise someone (Angel) "dies" as a consequence and in Reprise someone (Connor) is created
 
The difference between Buffy-Angel and Angel/us-Darla is also related to "stereotypical roles" of their relationships.
Angel-us and Darla followed the "traditional roles", instead the "roles" were reversed for Buffy in order to put the girl/woman in "the primary position" compared to the boy/man.

Also, Buffy's relationship with Angel was specular to Spike-Drusilla in season 2 (boyfriend-girlfriend's relationship).
At the beginning of season 2, Spike and Drusilla represented a typical standard of male-female couple: "strong man knight"- "weak woman princess" protected by the boy/man.
Buffy and Angel's relationship represented the reverse of it: instead of the man/boy that saves the girl, there is the girl (Buffy) that saves the boy/man (Angel), in order to change the stereotypical representation of "damsel in distress" saved by the boy/man.
Angel had the "traditional feminine role" in his relationship with Buffy, like Drusilla with Spike. Angel/Drusilla were always saved by Buffy/Spike in the first half of season 2.

Instead, Darla had the traditional role of the "damsel in distress" that must be protected and saved by Angel in ATS Season 2 (The Trial, etc.)

The same for "the father figure", as a matter of fact, The Master-Darla in season 1 represented a metaphorically a "father-daughter" relationships with The Master as traditional, old and authoritarian (in a bad kind of way) "father".
The Master ("father") - Darla (metaphorical "daughter"): The Master in "the primary position" as main antagonist and Darla as the secondary antagonist, with the typical subservient role of the woman.
Differently, Buffy (a girl) defeated and killed The Master that represented "Patriarchal Authority".
 
The difference between Buffy-Angel and Angel/us-Darla is also related to "stereotypical roles" of their relationships.
Angel-us and Darla followed the "traditional roles", instead the "roles" were reversed for Buffy in order to put the girl/woman in "the primary position" compared to the boy/man.

Also, Buffy's relationship with Angel was specular to Spike-Drusilla in season 2 (boyfriend-girlfriend's relationship).
At the beginning of season 2, Spike and Drusilla represented a typical standard of male-female couple: "strong man knight"- "weak woman princess" protected by the boy/man.
Buffy and Angel's relationship represented the reverse of it: instead of the man/boy that saves the girl, there is the girl (Buffy) that saves the boy/man (Angel), in order to change the stereotypical representation of "damsel in distress" saved by the boy/man.
Angel had the "traditional feminine role" in his relationship with Buffy, like Drusilla with Spike. Angel/Drusilla were always saved by Buffy/Spike in the first half of season 2.

Instead, Darla had the traditional role of the "damsel in distress" that must be protected and saved by Angel in ATS Season 2 (The Trial, etc.)
I have to respectfully disagree with this whole take.

First of all, I don't think Buffy/Angel are supposed to mirror or parallel Spike/Dru and neither do I agree that Angel fills the more "traditionally feminine" role by being the "damsel in distress". There is really only one instance in the first half of Season 2 where Angel could be classed as the "the damsel" and that is What's My Line Pt 2. The rest of the time he and Buffy fight as a unit, equals, a partnership. This is the strength of their relationship before Angel turns - they are warriors together and help one another in the fight.

Also very much disagree with Darla filling the "damsel in distress" role with Angel. Again, she is really only the "damsel" in two episodes of her run on the show (Darla and The Trial) and the rest of her run she is either an antagonist or an outright villain. Also, to only focus on this particular time in Darla and Angel's relationship ignores the hundred and fifty years they were together, in which their dynamic was anything but traditional, especially since, as Angelus' sire, Darla was often the leader in their partnership and the matriarch of The Whirlwind.
 
School Hard
School Hard
I agree. If anything, Angel was in the submissive role in his relationship with Darla.
Wow, this is so interesting. I had never noticed any of any of these before except for them both saying "was I not good."

I love how no matter how many times I see this show there is always something new to discover.
 
I have to respectfully disagree with this whole take.
No problem.

First of all, I don't think Buffy/Angel are supposed to mirror or parallel Spike/Dru and neither do I agree that Angel fills the more "traditionally feminine" role by being the "damsel in distress". There is really only one instance in the first half of Season 2 where Angel could be classed as the "the damsel" and that is What's My Line Pt 2. The rest of the time he and Buffy fight as a unit, equals, a partnership. This is the strength of their relationship before Angel turns - they are warriors together and help one another in the fight.
In season 1, 2 and in the beginning of season 3, Buffy has always the main role in their relationship, and she saved him many times (in season 3 when he was feral, she saved him from Faith, Gwendolyn Post, Balthazar etc,), they started to fight as a unit only in the last episodes of season 3 and in the crossovers of ATS season 1.

Also, Angel in seasons 2-3 and Spike in seasons 6-7, during their relationship with Buffy, were shown many times undressed or naked in order to appeal to women and girls' views and represent them as objects of desire and affection as women and girls (undressed and naked) are typically shown in movies, tv shows, and magazine in order to appeal and attract boys and men.

In What's My Line, the comparison of the entire season between Buffy-Angel and Spike-Drusilla, for me, was obvious:
Angel and Drusilla were tied up together and Buffy and Spike fighting defending them, in successive episodes, coincidentally Drusilla regained her strength (Spike got injured), and Angel turned Angelus reversing the roles of their relationships.

When Spike got handicapped, Drusilla regained strength and Angel turned Angelus; the roles reversed:
-Angelus had a "more traditional masculine" role with Drusilla (also the gendered masculine ending -us of the name "Angelus" compared to the name "Angel" that doesn't have a gendered ending, and it can be used for both male and female)
-Spike, instead, in a wheelchair was "in a weak role" like Drusilla was in the beginning (the injured)

The ending fights of season 2 (where Spike allied himself with Buffy):
1) Angelus vs Buffy: The main role
2) Drusilla vs Spike

It is directly linked to physical strength, in Btvs seasons 1-2-3, Angel were depicted a lot weaker (for example, in season 1 he was unable to kill single vampires, he was afraid to help Buffy fighting The Master, he runs away from Spike and his group with Xander in School Hard) etc).
In his show, writers made him stronger in order to reflect the "traditional masculine role of the hero".
Angel started as having difficulties fighting a single vampire (in BTVS season 1-season 2) to being able to kill multiple vampires and demons on his show defending a whole city.

Also, to only focus on this particular time in Darla and Angel's relationship ignores the hundred and fifty years they were together, in which their dynamic was anything but traditional, especially since, as Angelus' sire, Darla was often the leader in their partnership and the matriarch of The Whirlwind.
Yes, since Buffy was a show that tried to give more importance to girls/women, Darla has also the role of the matriarch (like Drusilla sired Spike). However, Angelus and Darla/Angel-Darla followed a more traditional pattern compared to Buffy-Angel.
For example, with The Master:
Darla was the typical subservient "daughter" that was afraid and followed The Master, instead Buffy was the one that killed The Master.
Angelus was the one that defied and mocked The Master, "freeing" her from his authority.
 
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Well worded, but I feel it's worth mentioning Angel was rusty in season 1, AND he got a lot stronger after drinking Buffy's blood. Forget where I learned drinking Slayer blood makes vampires stronger, but Angel powered up drinking Marcus's blood
Well worded, but I feel it's worth mentioning Angel was rusty in season 1, AND he got a lot stronger after drinking Buffy's blood. Forget where I learned drinking Slayer blood makes vampires stronger, but Angel powered up drinking Marcus's blood
Writers during seasons 1 and 2 (when Angel were weaker) didn't even know and considered how the show would have progressed in successive seasons and the entire Angel TV show. Also, even if Angel became stronger drinking Marcus' blood; Spike drank the blood of his first Slayer, and he didn't comment of becoming stronger, he also never tried to drink Nikki's blood. For me, the show was logically inconsistent on this matter.

Angel (only when he was a villain) started to become stronger when he turned Angelus, where he was almost on par with Buffy.

The same for Spike: when he was a villain, during the first part of season 2, he was a lot stronger.
In School Hard, he was almost a parody of "masculinity": strong, aggressive, ready and searching to challenges, telling to others: "Any of you want to test who's got the biggest wrinklies 'round here... step on up" that is symbolical: "Who have the biggest balls?". He almost killed Buffy and rejected the traditionalism of the Anointed One and killed him.

During his relationship with Buffy, he became a push over in seasons 5-6-7 where Buffy saved him many times.
This was the pattern of the show in relation to Buffy-Angel and Buffy-Spike that tried to give Buffy (and symbolically the girl) "the primary role" in the relationship.

Coincidentally, only in the last episodes of season 7, Buffy and Spike started to have a real and better understanding of each other and fight as partners on equal terms (similarly to Buffy-Angel in the last episodes of season 3).

Buffy and Spike represented the gender inversion of stereotypically feminine/masculine roles (like Buffy and Angel in season 2): the Scythe (typical male weapon) and the Amulet (typical female object):
-The Scythe is given to Buffy, a girl but with the "traditionally masculine" role in the relationship
-The amulet is given to Spike (or Angel), a man but with the "traditionally feminine" role in the relationship
 
One I just thought of: both Buffy and Darla have some sort of dream sex with Angel.
In Amends, Buffy's and Angel's dreams are linked and in it they sleep together. It didn’t actually happen, but both parties knew the other was really there with them.
In AtS S2, Darla has sex with Angel in his dreams, but she is actually there and it actually happened, while he doesn’t know that and thinks Darla's just his imagination.
 
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