Bangel/Spuffy Co-Existance

[Flannen]

I think that we could settle the whole matter in a civilized fashion. Each side pick 10 members, and we can all meet at a mutually agreed upon location and fight it out with paint ball guns. The losers have to admit that the winers' ship is the only true relationship.

Any takers? Put your paint balls where your mouths are...no, wait, that sounds disgusting. How about, Put up or shut up?

LMAO! I have such a low pain threshold I'll just cry like a big girl as soon as I get shot...but...for the name and love of Bangel I will bear it! (sw)

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

I say the young, spry boys in the board wrestle it out. There could be some sort of oil invovled. 😉

 

[Misty]

I don't think Bangel shippers can see Buffy wanting Spike in her life, because they believen first love. I'm not against all first loves, but I do think that people should sometimes move on. Sorry Bangels but I'm not a Bangel fan. At first when Buffy got with Angel, I thought it was okay, but in s2 of Buffy when they were together, I couldn't stand them because to me it seemed that all they did was make out. I will admit that Bangel was no doubt epic, because they were the first couple to be shown on the series, but I do think that some of Angel's other relationships were epic too. Also, even though Buffy was always mean to Spike, it doesn't mean she didn't have alittle bit of love for him. But it was very obvious how Spike felt about Buffy, which he revealed to her in "Touched." also, to me Bangel was just an average high school relationship, I think that Spuffy was kind of rough, but it was in a way more realistic, and to me more romantic, because it s7 of Buffy, they had such a strong bond because they could show love to eachother without making out or having sex.

 

[tvnerdgirl]

I wouldn't say that Bangels feel threatened by Spuffy at all.

Personally I have no problems whatsoever of the Spuffy interpretation. It's been said already that reader response and interpretation is a major factor and I totally agree.

I am a Bangel, through and through...but in the years since the show first aired, I have come accross MANY other ships and shippers...there was a time on my Buffy mailing list when the Buffy/Riley shippers outnumbered all teh other ships...oddly enough it was the Buffy/Riley shippers that bugged the ever loving crap out of me.

Spuffys on the other hand, I always saw as simply having a different interpretation of things than I did....and to some degree I can agree with some of those interpretations...for example the 'did she truly love SPike at the end of season 7' argument.

I am a die hard Bangel, but even I agree that at the end of season 7, she meant it when she said 'I love you' to Spike. Do I think that detracts from what she and Angel had? No. I think she loved them both...but differently. Ultimately I believe that she and Angel are meant to be together, but I also can't deny there was something definite between her and Spike.

So when Spuffy's argue thair side, rather than feeling threatened I usually find it to be interesting and can occasionally see their point.

 

[GrrArghx]

I can co-exist with both because I love Spike even though I'm a hardcore Bangel shipper. Spike is easily one of my favorite characters! And, I know he truly loved Buffy 🙂 So I do not have a problem with Spuffies, unless they mess with my Bangel! 😉

 

[Skytteflickan88]

I think there's a way to solve this. The ultimate ship.

The Bangike.

Buffy+Angel+Spike.

We just need to convince Joss that Buffy is very open minded and that Spike & Angel can share.

.......

Nevermind, the debates go on.

 

[Summerlilly]

Joan, I'm sure there are a million replies to your post below, but I can't go any farther! 🙂 Nice thoughts! I do think Bangels are threatened by Spuffy, though they'll never admit it. Spuffy is also threatened by Bangel, even if they won't admit it. I'm a Bangel. Yep. This is why it truly is a war that you must commit to on either side! I do have a lot of love for Spuffy. It's the classic heroin torn between two heroic hunks. Who would she really choose? Who's the one whe's meant to be with?

"Spuffy is everything Bangel never has and never will be. It was violent, destructive, passionate, revealing, transformative. For me, Spuffy is unforgettable."

Of course Spuffy is everything Bangel has and never will be. No two people can ever have the exact same thing with another person. I don't despute that what they had was as equally valid as what Angel and Buffy had. I think all those adjetives could also apply to Bangel. Spuffy is ungorgetable. It isn't quite the classic love story. It's edgier and raw and real.

Spike cetrtainley did challenge Buffy. She never would have made it without him. I agree with every statement you wrote about Spike. That was his role and what really made him a hero and why Spike is my favorite character. Angel and Buffy could have saved the world together too but not under the cirumstances with the curse. Angel couldn't be there like spike could.

Bangels can see that Buffy needed, relied on, and loved Spike. Of course. It doesn't mean that what Bangel had was diminished because of this. Buffy will ALWAYS love Angel and Angel will always love her. Buffy does love Spike but she can never love him as much because that part of her is already filled with Angel.

I think Spike did love her pre soul but it wasn't the kind of love that could have made her love him back. He had to sacrifice the evil side of him so she could really love him. He was still a vampire when he tried to rape her. The evil wanted her so badly because he wanted her so badly and so he would do anything to have her....but he didn't. And that is why Spike is special. Even without a soul he could choose good over evil. I think it shows why love really can overcome anything. Maybe that's just the hopless romantic inside me! If Angel would have tried the same thing....it would have to be Angelus and he wouldn't have stopped, because he didn't love her.

I don't disagree that I might find Spuffy more interesting then Bangel...but only in a dysfunctional sort of way. As a Bangel I do believe in true love and that attraction can't be denied. I want there to be a fairytail, not a hard ****ed up road to real love. There is a place for that and it does make life more interesting but I want there to be 'a meant to be' and a happy ending! 🙂

 

[PrincessBuffy16]

I'm not threatened with Spuffy honestly. Maybe that's because I never saw that something in them, I never saw powerful couple, and before I learned how to find places like this it never crossed my mind someone could like Spuffy.