Books VS Movies

Ya know, I've never read LOTR or any of the HP books, but I've seen all the LOTR movies, & one HP movie, & as much as I LOVE FANTASY, these movies were just "so-so" to me. Maybe I should try the books, eh?
 
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Blondie Bear
Totally--if only to get Tom Bombadil back in the story.
I thought they were good the actors look like their descriptions and it sticks to the plot... Whatd you think was wrong with them?
There's just so much missing in them (#2 already is quite notably abridged, and still on first viewing I felt it had a breakneck pacing that didn't do the book justice), and starting with #3, they began to change and re-order story content to make the ever-longer novels fit into a two-hour movie and/or keep it understandable (as we know how often reading JKR makes you go back afterwards to catch up on all the hints you've missed the first time around... 😉 ).

And as for actor similarities... while I could live with Hermione's "rabbit teeth" missing, I just give you two (three?) words: Mad-Eye Moody. Seeing the trailer for #4 featuring some guy pretending to play a character named "Alastor Moody" actually stopped me from going to watch the film!
 
And as for actor similarities... while I could live with Hermione's "rabbit teeth" missing, I just give you two (three?) words: Mad-Eye Moody. Seeing the trailer for #4 featuring some guy pretending to play a character named "Alastor Moody" actually stopped me from going to watch the film!

I knew there was something huge I was missing! I was desperately looking forward to Alastor.... He sounded so scary in the books. I don't know why they toned it down in the film, only to go on and do that great scene with Voldemort at the end. I suppose the strapped on eye was cheaper than a more real looking one.

At least he was suitably in character though. He was recognisable, if a little bit OTT.
 
Personally, I STILL miss Bagman! They left out so much, and so MANY PEOPLE in the fourth movie. Winky, too. Don't much care for her, but she's important, I recall. I think...
 
Are you serious? ??? Aside from the first one - which I loved to bits - I don't think the HP movies do the books justice at all!
The films are obviously infinitely better because they escape the terrible prose of JK Rowling. However, they are still redundant and should be destroyed.
 
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Lindsey McDonald
Oh, so it's still cool to bash HP? I thought people grew up. Evidently not.
Washburne
Washburne
I disagree. I love the HP books. Wouldn´t give you negative karma for thinking differently though.
well the thing is if they made a movie with everyones favorite part of the book itd take a day to see the whole thing and have to have like 6 or so intermissions...
 
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Lindsey McDonald
And this is a problem because? XP I know what you mean. It's difficult to pick and choose, especially when the Author is still writing the series.
Understandably, but when entire characters are left out, I feel lines are being crossed.
 
yeah but the reason they dont have everyone is because that many actors that are any good might get expensive
 
I don't get it: why do I get negative repped and called immature because I express an opinion of dislike for Harry Potter? I mean, I could go around negative repping everyone going "You like Harry Potter? How could you not have grown up from that?! *smug laugh*", but I don't. Sometimes this forum really doesn't nurture different opinions, just takes a majority vote and everyone else just gets told to stop being immature or disrespectful or whatever, it's ridiculous.
 
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MSchett
yeah someone should take off the negative karma it only causes problems
I don't get it: why do I get negative repped and called immature because I express an opinion of dislike for Harry Potter? I mean, I could go around negative repping everyone going "You like Harry Potter? How could you not have grown up from that?! *smug laugh*", but I don't. Sometimes this forum really doesn't nurture different opinions, just takes a majority vote and everyone else just gets told to stop being immature or disrespectful or whatever, it's ridiculous.


I don't really see the draw, either. And I have caught all kinds of flack from my "ho-hum" attitude toward LOTR. And yet, I love movies like Willow, Labryinth, etc. I've tried - REALLY TRIED! - to see the greatness of LOTR & HP. But I just.... don't. :thought:
 
I enjoy LotR. But I can see how one would find it dry and boring and hard to slog through. It IS hard to slog through. But it was the first modern fantasy saga. Try reading some of the stuff written BEFORE Tolkien. Talk about hard to slog through! I've tried The Well at World's End and canNOT get more than halfway through the first volume.

As for HP, I've read the first four (I think) and was kind of "eh." It's not the greatest fantasy thing ever created, but I'm glad that kids are reading and that fantasy is getting positive mainstream attention for once. (It's had a bad rap pretty much since the end of the Dark Ages.)

But I'm not going to hand out negative karma because someone has a different opinion from me. That's just rude.
 
I don't get it: why do I get negative repped and called immature because I express an opinion of dislike for Harry Potter? I mean, I could go around negative repping everyone going "You like Harry Potter? How could you not have grown up from that?! *smug laugh*", but I don't. Sometimes this forum really doesn't nurture different opinions, just takes a majority vote and everyone else just gets told to stop being immature or disrespectful or whatever, it's ridiculous.

I negative repped you because I dissagreed with your attitude, not your opinion. If you don't like Harry Potter, that's fine, but I felt that it was immature to bash it in such a rude way.
 
As one with an avid imagination, I like books the best. George Lucas and the Skywalker ranch don't have crap on the puppet show inside my noggin. With the exception of Joss screenplay, Toy Story, (and some others I must have forgotten) I like the written word I've made my head puppets slavishly perform for me over most of the stuff I've watched on the big to small screen.

(Pixar got one on the puppets that day, but in Joss defense, it was a screen play and not a book; and a screenplay is like a book, but for TV....thus TV Buffy is supreme to head puppets also.)

I've read alot of good books, King of kings for me was the Wheel of Time, I hope it is finished in a way R.J. would appreciate. They could never make a wheel of time movie good enough for me, Perrin would'nt be hairy enough or Rand would look to dopey. Inside your head these puppets are doing thing and making non verbal gestures and having reactions that the actors outside your head might not get.

Don't misunderstand me, not all book are superior to movies, but on an even playing field of both excellent film and excellent novel co-existing....my money is on the puppets.
 
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Blondie Bear
I've never made it past Book 2 of WoT, though I plan to try again after the last one (finally) comes out.
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wow, I have totally missed that RJ had passed away... Love WoT, I am reading it now actually.
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Lindsey McDonald
This post is either the ramblings of a madman or a glimpse of genius. Not quite sure which yet!
I negative repped you because I dissagreed with your attitude, not your opinion. If you don't like Harry Potter, that's fine, but I felt that it was immature to bash it in such a rude way.
I stated that I don't like the books because the prose is badly written, but don't like the films because the plot does nothing for me, so both should begone. Seems fair.

I tried reading Lord of the Rings, but J.R.R. Tolkien's writing style is very convoluted. It's not so much that the language is a problem, I'm a huge fan of pre-1900s literature, but every page seems to have something about belt tightening as if it is some religious ritual of strength regeneration.
 
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Blondie Bear
I think he's trying to show how the characters are doing without a lot of things they usually have--like food. They're tightening their belts because they're losing weight.
i ahve a problem with the fact that i cannot read a book and then watch the movie of it, when i read a book i get my own vision of how things should appear and when i watch a movie it ruins my vision of things. I read the book 'in her shoes' by jennifer weiner and i started to watch the movie and i stoppped after a few minutes. It was all completely different to the way i imagined it. i do love to watch movies but i do prefer to read the books.
 
I have usually no problems to separate the movie from the book.

So most often I can enjoy a movie based on a book, even though it isn't exactly has I imagined it in my head.
It might have something to do with the fact that I have such a lousy memory so I can't remember much of a book ten minutes after I finished it anyway...

Saying that, in general the book is still better than the movie.
Mostly because you can tell so much more story in a book. Movies needs to be longer 😉

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I stated that I don't like the books because the prose is badly written, but don't like the films because the plot does nothing for me, so both should begone. Seems fair.

Entirely fair. It was just the way you said it that I took issue with. On a side note, can I ask which of the books you have read? Just trying to see it from your perspective.

I tried reading Lord of the Rings, but J.R.R. Tolkien's writing style is very convoluted. It's not so much that the language is a problem, I'm a huge fan of pre-1900s literature, but every page seems to have something about belt tightening as if it is some religious ritual of strength regeneration.

Oh, but it is. Without their belt tightening and weed smoking, they wouldn't have goten far! I appreciate that you don't like his style, as it is rather convoluted. That doesn't bother me much though. It takes some getting used to, but once I get into it the stories flow well enough.

Just don't try reading his unfinished works. The Book of Lost Tales is more convoluted than.....well, a really convoluted thing. (It's late. Give me a break!) I still love it all though. Different strokes and all that.
 
Five By Five said:
Entirely fair. It was just the way you said it that I took issue with. On a side note, can I ask which of the books you have read? Just trying to see it from your perspective.
All seven. It was after finishing the seventh that I had a massive epiphany on par with Angel's. Except I didn't sleep with Julia Benz, so he got the better deal.
 
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