Buffy Confessions #2

-I'm a Spuffy fan and I hate Cangel. Yup, we exist.
-I despise Coredia's "development" on Angel. I put development in quotes because I feel to develop you have to gradually change. She had a day in the hospital feeling everyone's pain and then was a bramd new person.
-If I'm honest, I really didn't like Ats. The only good relationship was Coyle and the only plot line I really enjoyed was Connor.
 
Kean agrees: This is not to suggest you are depraved, AT ALL, I really want to stress that, but I actually believe your OTP and fav characters are directly related to your core beliefs in RL. At least mine are.
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Interesting. I've never really thought about this. I wonder if it's true for me. I don't agree, though, I don't think. Not all of us look for in fiction what we look for in real life. For me, these are very seperate things.

For instance, I think rape is wrong (obviously) but don't hate Spike for trying to rape Buffy. If he were real, and she were real, and it had been a real situation - I would have told her to stay as far away from him as possible. But this isn't real, it's fantasy.

I'm just real touchy about fans who judge other fans real life personalities/values based upon the characters/storylines/ships they favor. It's not fair and dare I say it's not an accurate assessment of them as individuals.

I'm not attacking you but I'm honestly curious; how you do relate your choice of ship to your real life beliefs? For you, does Bangel really mirror your core beliefs?
 
Joan the Vampire Slayer said:
Interesting. I've never really thought about this. I wonder if it's true for me. I don't agree, though, I don't think. Not all of us look for in fiction what we look for in real life. For me, these are very seperate things.

For instance, I think rape is wrong (obviously) but don't hate Spike for trying to rape Buffy. If he were real, and she were real, and it had been a real situation - I would have told her to stay as far away from him as possible. But this isn't real, it's fantasy.

I'm just real touchy about fans who judge other fans real life personalities/values based upon the characters/storylines/ships they favor. It's not fair and dare I say it's not an accurate assessment of them as individuals.
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My characters and ships directly relate to my personalities/values. Spike is me. I relate to him. Spuffy is a beautiful ship that I love because it reflects the kind of love and relationship I want to have (of course here I'm talking about season 7). I want someone to love me as much as Spike loves Buffy (here I'm talking about in general). Now the actual events are different. Like the bathroom scene. I don't think either character handled that situation right and the actions of the characters in that scene do not mirror my values. But the reason I like the characters and ships that I do is because I relate to them and they are or closely resemble what I value in a loving relationship.
 
zobothehobo said:
My characters and ships directly relate to my personalities/values. Spike is me. I relate to him. Spuffy is a beautiful ship that I love because it reflects the kind of love and relationship I want to have (of course here I'm talking about season 7). I want someone to love me as much as Spike loves Buffy (here I'm talking about in general). Now the actual events are different. Like the bathroom scene. I don't think either character handled that situation right and the actions of the characters in that scene do not mirror my values. But the reason I like the characters and ships that I do is because I relate to them and they are or closely resemble what I value in a loving relationship.
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Joan pm'd me about this and I answered her there but I just thought I'd say that I agree with you. Bangel (and Angel) with what they mean to me and how I view them, are direct representations of what I want from love. Basically, I want the kind of love Buffy and Angel share, but not the life. If that makes sense.

And this should work with all of your OTP's. In my experience you are attracted to the same type of relationship every time. I certainly am.
 
Kean said:
Joan pm'd me about this and I answered her there but I just thought I'd say that I agree with you. Bangel (and Angel) with what they mean to me and how I view them, are direct representations of what I want from love. Basically, I want the kind of love Buffy and Angel share, but not the life. If that makes sense.

And this should work with all of your OTP's. In my experience you are attracted to the same type of relationship every time. I certainly am.
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Yes, to an extent. I have not interest in Bangel because star-crossed, don't get to actually have it kind of love is devastating - been there, done that, don't want to see it. I'm a Spuffy shipper because I do want the man (vampire) who will move heaven, hell, earth, any and everything to be with me. I would love more than anything to have someone love me the way Spike loves Buffy & hear anything similer to what he tells her in S7 (end of days, i think). I was a Bangel in the beginning, but I grew out of it (not to imply, in any way, that Banger = childish and Spuffy = grown up - I'm just saying that I, personally, did).
 
Kean said:
Joan pm'd me about this and I answered her there but I just thought I'd say that I agree with you. Bangel (and Angel) with what they mean to me and how I view them, are direct representations of what I want from love. Basically, I want the kind of love Buffy and Angel share, but not the life. If that makes sense.

And this should work with all of your OTP's. In my experience you are attracted to the same type of relationship every time. I certainly am.
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Exactly. I am too. My other Buffy OTP is Tillow. They're also friends who become everything to one another. Generally all my ships have that "friends turned something more" thing. Because I the person I want to be my life partner will be my best friend.
 
Kean
Kean
Yup. Me too. See below on why B/A is reflective of me. :)
KellGreen said:
Yes, to an extent. I have not interest in Bangel because star-crossed, don't get to actually have it kind of love is devastating - been there, done that, don't want to see it. I'm a Spuffy shipper because I do want the man (vampire) who will move heaven, hell, earth, any and everything to be with me. I would love more than anything to have someone love me the way Spike loves Buffy & hear anything similer to what he tells her in S7 (end of days, i think). I was a Bangel in the beginning, but I grew out of it (not to imply, in any way, that Banger = childish and Spuffy = grown up - I'm just saying that I, personally, did).
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The love itself isn't devastating, I'd argue that is actually what keeps them going, it is the life they live which tears them apart that devastates them. At least this is how I view it. When I say I want a love like B/A, I say it viewing B/A's love as that of equals. A balanced love where they each feel just as strongly and as passionately for each other. I couldn't be with someone who didn't feel a strongly for me, as I did for them. Nor could I be with someone who cared more for me than I do them.

And that's completely reflective of my life where I seek balance in absolutely everything. 🙂
 
And this should work with all of your OTP's. In my experience you are attracted to the same type of relationship every time. I certainly am.
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I am not. I like Willow/Tara but I also like Xander/Cordelia. But then again, I don't seem to take shipping as seriously as many other fans so I don't know if I have an OTP at all. 🙂
 
Icarium said:
I am not. I like Willow/Tara but I also like Xander/Cordelia. But then again, I don't seem to take shipping as seriously as many other fans so I don't know if I have an OTP at all. 🙂
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Just from reading your posts I'd say you are more character and plot obsessed, than a shipper.

I don't think I have ever seen you throw down for Twillow the way I have seen you throw down for Willow, individually, or rail against the flaws in S6.

🙂
 
Kean said:
The love itself isn't devastating, I'd argue that is actually what keeps them going, it is the life they live which tears them apart that devastates them. At least this is how I view it. When I say I want a love like B/A, I say it viewing B/A's love as that of equals. A balanced love where they each feel just as strongly and as passionately for each other. I couldn't be with someone who didn't feel a strongly for me, as I did for them. Nor could I be with someone who cared more for me than I do them.

And that's completely reflective of my life where I seek balance in absolutely everything. 🙂
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I kinda honestly don't see a whole lot of love with them. I do see that they love each other, of couse, but I also see a lot of distrust and jealousy, pain and loss. I actually just started yesterday rewatching the series from the beginning to see if there is something I am missing after watching Lie to Me and being struck by how NOT healthy and barely existent (to me) their relationship seems. Also, by her saying to him "i love you, but i don't trust you." It seems like a very insecure love to me, but like i said, i am rewatching - and i am perfectly open to hearing any suggestions on where i should look or what i should look for. No, I am no longer a Bangel (as is obvious) but I still cry like crazy at the end of Becoming pt2. I feel her pain, but i don't feel love, or warm and squooshy from any episodes really.

To stay more in line with the post itself here... I do identify mostly with Buffy, in that i really feel like i always have to slay not only my own demons, but everyone else's too. The rest of me identifies with Willow, being all book-addicted and liking school. Yes, I have referred to, more times than i would like, as the "good girl" (not in the Jennifer Aniston movie way). Which is why Faith is the character i like the most, with her attitude of just doing whatever...sorry this is so long🙁
 
1. Anya is my favourite character in the whole of the buffyverse, however, Amy is the best actor in the Buffyverse 😀

2.Older and far away is my favourite episode, then Tabula Rasa, then Selfless, then Homecoming, then Hells Bells 😀

3. Whenever I see Buffy or Angel is on TV I watch it, even though I have the DVD's and can watch anytime, I feel like if I'm watching it on SyFy or another channel then I am helping them 😀

4. I have recieved HUGE criticism from my friends at school and out of school for being a Buffy fan, and I have put many a douchebag down after they started arguing how Buffy was a bad show an it was so fake and I was stupid too like it (put down with words, not violence)

5. I am a complete Bangel, and even though I can see why people ship Spuffy, I dont think I will ever convert because Bangel is just so true 😀

6. I watched through Buffy 3 times before I actually watched Amends, I literally have no idea why I didnt watch it all those times, either it wasn't on the site I was on or fate made me not watch it. Because the second I watched it for the first time, after seeing buffy and angel 3 times, it is what made me so prominently ship Bangel

7. I personally, enjoy AtS as a whole more than BtVS *hides*. But my favourite 3 episodes of both shows are from Buffy.
 
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Gingerbread is a terrifying episode. I can't watch that episode without hugging my pillow and crying... and I can't watch it before bed. It terrifies me that it would be THAT easy to tear a community apart like that. Book burning is a horrible thing that happens now in this world. Watching that episode reminds me of that and the horrible people who DO the book burning and I just... Oh god, now I'm shaking just thinking about it. Stupidity scares me. Burning books/banning books/topics is stupid. Therefore, this episode scares me. Just everything about this episode... the group think mentality... the book burning... the everything. It's just so... terrifying.
 
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KellGreen
you're not alone....stupidity absolutely terrifies me too!
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peaches71
Well said!
-I love Spike and Spuffy way too much
-But then again i kinda love James Marsters a little too much..
-I watch Buffy online and on Tv even though the discs are right there!
-I would have loved to have worked on Buffy and it kinda bums me out i never can
-I still get excited on a friday when i used to watch it like 8 years ago and then remember why..
-i love season 7 but it has the most episodes i dont really like..even though its one of my fav seasons.. :/
-im kind of scared i will bomb the studio where they end up filming the reboot movie..espcially after readin whos just signed on to play buffy..
-Xander and Spike have THE funniest moments 🙂
-AND i just watched the hour an a bit playfest reunion..some of the funiiest TV i think iv ever watched 😀

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Kristen Stewart...3 movies...i threw up a little
 
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KellGreen
Who has just signed on to play Buffy?
apparently..some say its a joke but alot of my sources have fallen for it if it is...will have to see i suppose i hope it is a joke ;/
 
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