^^^ Buffy is human but she has advantage then a human because in season 1 she got electric and giles said if you were not the slayer you would end up dead.So Buffy is not weaker then a human like when caleb punches buffy she went flying its not like her head fell off you get my point,Plus hamlington had a alot of opportunity to punch threw Angels heart but he didnt what makes you think he be able to do that to Buffy,with Buffy speed plus buffy has strenght like what i said her emotion give her power like what she did in season 6 in (normal again )when she punched threw a demons heart so she has strength.plus her slayer weapons strong ,like again her emotions give her power you remerber the scene in chosen the bit when the first comes and she said (Buffy)get out of my face and after that she blasted 5 turok han off a cliff after 1 strike 🙂
Buffy vs Hamilton
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Buffy kind of isn't human as much as she is. She is slayer and that makes her less human and more super human than you or me, which you appear to say above BUT I don't know if you intended to....
I think Buffy's emotions will only get her so far. Yes, throughout the series she has said and shown how they can increase her ability to fight, but at the end of day emptional strength can only go so far against physical strength.
I think Buffy's emotions will only get her so far. Yes, throughout the series she has said and shown how they can increase her ability to fight, but at the end of day emptional strength can only go so far against physical strength.
Actually her emotion gives her power and strength she already has physical strength so the emotion that concieve her gives her the extra edge to give the enemy run for their money.Yes i am trying to say that a slayer is much stronger then a human so hamlington carnt just punch her and except a fist going threw her heart probably just blasted her.
I'm not denying that her emotions give her strength, all I am saying is that does not mean that she will always beat demons etc. It does increase her ability, but my point is that I don't think that emotional strength will always outweigh physical.
Even as a slayer, IF Hamilton was stronger than her, then of course he could punch through to her heart...which seems to be your main focus?!
Even as a slayer, IF Hamilton was stronger than her, then of course he could punch through to her heart...which seems to be your main focus?!
LittleMissLikesToFight
Into Every Generation...
I didnt say she was any old human, but slayer's are killed fairly easily all the time. She's the rarity in lasting as long as she did... but in the end, they are still human beings. Buffy can heal fast, but not as fast as a vampire, for example. She has super strength but she's still has a vulnerability that many other species of demons and the like do not... at least thats how i see it.
I think Flannen gets my point... i dont think she's nearly as strong as Hamilton, and so not strong enough to take what he can dish out.
I think Flannen gets my point... i dont think she's nearly as strong as Hamilton, and so not strong enough to take what he can dish out.
Flannen
At least we're on the same wavelength :)
Yeah but Buffy isnt just a normal slayer she the queen she alway wins fights and the oppent is alot stronger so i disagree when hamlington beaten down Buffy.Angel figured it out i am surly the Queen can .Yeah but buffy is alot stronger then Angel and you dont see hamlington punching threw angel head or heart and hamlington has to get buffy becasue her power is her speed and emotion gives her the boost to give the demon and hamlington run for their money.In season 2 buffy say emotion give her strength because she defines that kendra is a crap fighter because she is not using her emotion aka anger. She out runned caleb and caleb is alot stronger then hamlington.adrenaline gives her the power to out run her opponent 🙂
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I give you an example when she user emotion aka annger .
In to the woods eps when Riley Finn was leaving and Buffy got abmushed in the alley way by 8 vampires .A normal slayer would have died but she uses her anger because of the situation with Riley Finn and she dusted them.
I pointed this out before when Caleb killing the potential slayer have you seen the look on Buffys face and you see what she did to Caleb.!!
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I give you an example when she user emotion aka annger .
In to the woods eps when Riley Finn was leaving and Buffy got abmushed in the alley way by 8 vampires .A normal slayer would have died but she uses her anger because of the situation with Riley Finn and she dusted them.
I pointed this out before when Caleb killing the potential slayer have you seen the look on Buffys face and you see what she did to Caleb.!!
You just keep saying the same things back to me and don't appear to even read what I or anyone else has written! To clarify, for the last time:
I'm not necessarily arguing that Hamilton would beat Buffy, my argument is that emotional strength, however strong, will not necessarily always win out over physical strength, OK?!
I know, as a fan of the show, that she does use her emotions to make her a better fighter, cos I've seen it 😛 many, many times.
Also she doesn't say Kendra is a crap fighter 😛 She says that emotion would make her better 🙂
I'm not necessarily arguing that Hamilton would beat Buffy, my argument is that emotional strength, however strong, will not necessarily always win out over physical strength, OK?!
I know, as a fan of the show, that she does use her emotions to make her a better fighter, cos I've seen it 😛 many, many times.
Also she doesn't say Kendra is a crap fighter 😛 She says that emotion would make her better 🙂
^^ Thas what i am saying Buffy is better fighter then kendra becasue Buffy uses her emotion why do you not think that emotion would outstand physical because i seen Buffy angry and she brayed and blasted them who are alot stronger then her.I am saying Hamlington would lose to Buffy Because Buffy is a mighty fighter and also she clever in a fights she uses the envirment as her weapon also her feelings.
Like agian i am saying that you know when Buffy blasted that vampire (in in to the woods) in that flat when she seen Riley get feeden of the vampire normally she doesnt blast vampire but when she seen Riley get beaten by the vampire she was angry and pushed the vampire across the room and i think thats how emotion gives her the extra edge then physical,i know physical is strong but physical can always make the opponent lose becasue she need anger to make the physical strenght more powerful ,then when you are calm but when you get anger its a emotionn behind it and it give the extra power.Soo i think anger get overrate physical.🙂
Like agian i am saying that you know when Buffy blasted that vampire (in in to the woods) in that flat when she seen Riley get feeden of the vampire normally she doesnt blast vampire but when she seen Riley get beaten by the vampire she was angry and pushed the vampire across the room and i think thats how emotion gives her the extra edge then physical,i know physical is strong but physical can always make the opponent lose becasue she need anger to make the physical strenght more powerful ,then when you are calm but when you get anger its a emotionn behind it and it give the extra power.Soo i think anger get overrate physical.🙂
Yes but they are the same facts, in every single point. I have acknowledged that yes, her emotions do give increase her fighting ability but however but there is no way that you can say that her anger/emotion, whatever, means that she will ALWAYS win. I don't care how angry she can get, someone would like Zeus would kick her ass 😀
It's going round in circles because I get the feeling that you only read half of what I say and then repeat the same examples and the say the same things, without even acknowledging the opposing argument!
It's going round in circles because I get the feeling that you only read half of what I say and then repeat the same examples and the say the same things, without even acknowledging the opposing argument!
Yeah but you should acknowlegde that when she does use her anger emotion she come on top she always wins that what i am saying name one when she uses her strength and she loses.Because she always wins when she uses her emotion her weapon becasue remerber in becomeing part 2 when angel pined and said No weapons no friends and no hope ; and suddenly said ME and she wasnt calm about she was angry so much she blocked the sword attack you know what i mean.Like in fools for love she doesnt do emotions she was joking and it backed fired on her and the vampire stabbed her but if she was anger say good bye vampire lol.🙂 Like caleb i am sure i said this already when buffy looked at caleb when caleb was killing all of them potential slayers and she was so anger she blasted him across the room and the another day she lost to him again you know what i trying to say.
Well I don't need to give you an example cos you just did - Fool For Love 😛 Also, if you look back over my posts on this thread, I have acknowledged that her emotions make her a better fighter, I have agreed with this several times now. My point is that I THINK they will only get her so far. Because this is a hypothetical arguments, you know? It isn't going to happen, well it might but, meh.
It's not about finding examples of when her strength has failed. That is not what this discussion is about, its not why my stance in this argument about. Seriously, I think this discussion has died. A horrible, tedious death 😛
It's not about finding examples of when her strength has failed. That is not what this discussion is about, its not why my stance in this argument about. Seriously, I think this discussion has died. A horrible, tedious death 😛
Yeah but she didnt but emotion behind her skill you know what i meanlol🙂If she put emotion to it she it make her a better fighter.Yes it will get her so far to out stand her opponent 🙂 Yes it is a piont for example that buffy failed using her emtion becasue it show that buffy come on top every time she using her emtions.
yes this arguement is going know where you think hamlington would win but i dont know why lol
And i buffy wounld win.
yes this arguement is going know where you think hamlington would win but i dont know why lol
And i buffy wounld win.
I actually haven't voted in this poll, I haven't really given it much thought, so no I do not think that Hamilton would win, but I don't think Buffy would either 😛 Except she would because it's Buffy and she's like the main person so who would want to see her lose? 😛
I don't really understand what else you mean, sorry 🙂 But I think we're done anyway 😛 We've talked it to death!
I don't really understand what else you mean, sorry 🙂 But I think we're done anyway 😛 We've talked it to death!
If she used the scythe, she would probably best Hamilton after a couple of go's. But in hand-to-hand combat, I can't picture an entertaining round. Buffy, unlike Faith and Connor, knew how to draw back when confronted by someone who's obviously much stronger than her. Examples being Adam, Glory, and Caleb; all fairly equivalent to Hamilton in strength, and she didn't defeat any of them until she conceived a tactic via a weapon or magic.
Angel only beat Hamilton because he's a vampire, which is literally a living weapon.
Angel only beat Hamilton because he's a vampire, which is literally a living weapon.
^^^^How can a slayer kill a vampire with no weapon????,Plus with the fight with glory you know olfs hammer spike counldnt even left it but buffy could easily soo my point is she is stronger then spike and angel.And in caleb fight scene in Dirty girl she didnt need a weapon to blast him across the room becasue buffy use her emotion to make her stronger so i think Buffy had a better chance then angel so i think she would end up top with a weapon or not.Come on she punched threw a gaint snake demon so Buffy is more macthed then angel.
I didn't say a Slayer could kill a vampire without a weapon. I said she would [probably] defeat Hamilton using her scythe or by some other means. Yeah, she "blasted" Caleb after he rendered her unconcious with one punch, but that didn't defeat him. Caleb gave her a royal knockout in "Empty Places" when he ANGERED her with his remark on Xander's eye, did he not? Anyway, my point is that Buffy could destroy Hamilton, but not by the means which you believe she can; not in hand-to-hand combat.
" buffy use her emotion to make her stronger so i think Buffy had a better chance then angel so i think she would end up top with a weapon or not.Come on she punched threw a gaint snake demon so Buffy is more macthed then angel."
A snake demon is not merely as durable as Hamilton. She is slightly stronger than Angel/Spike and fueled by her emotions, but that doesn't mean she would kill Ham with her bare fingertips. Emotions make you stronger, not invincible. Comprende!
Yeah but give her the power to come on top .....YEAH caleb made buffy angry but did you see her when she did the swoop kick when he knoced ouT ANGEL.
She is way way stronger then both of them so yeah i think buffy would win.i didnt say that she would kill him in her bare hands but i think she got more power then angel because buffy uses the envirment and her speed to make the opponent confusion whats she did to caleb.Yeah you should realise every time buffy use her emotion she always come top and always win.
She is way way stronger then both of them so yeah i think buffy would win.i didnt say that she would kill him in her bare hands but i think she got more power then angel because buffy uses the envirment and her speed to make the opponent confusion whats she did to caleb.Yeah you should realise every time buffy use her emotion she always come top and always win.