Chosen--The Last Spuffy Scene Of Season 7

[white avenger]

We all know the scene. (Some Bangels still wake up in a cold sweat with those words echoing in their ears)

Buffy: I love you...

Spike: No, you don't. But thanks for sayin' it.

My question is this, and it's not about the Spuffy relationship, pro, con, of neutral:

Do you think that Buffy ever told anyone about that final conversation? Personally, I think that she never mentioned it again. The moment was both very personal, and heartbreaking. She either didn't realize until too late, or, more likely, never ADMITTED until it was too late, her true feelings, and, because of her procrastination, the man who she loved went to his death believing that she never really cared, as far as she knew, anyhow. (I believe that Spike's laughter in those last moments was from the sheer joy of realization that she had finall confirmed what he had hoped for since halfway through Season 5.

 

[Megalita]

I agree. I doubt that Buffy ever told anyone of her last three words -- to her, he's dead, and it was like a final confirmation for both of them. Maybe after that, she saw no reason to dwell on it any further and therefore kept it to herself. And plus, it's her own business. 😛

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, we never see any mention of it in S8 (from Buffy or otherwise.)

 

[Kelsey]

I doubt she told anyone. It wasn't like some huge heart-to-heart you share to your friends later. Besides, I think she'd keep any aspect of her relationship with Spike to herself, because it's such a touchy subject for everyone.

I believe that Buffy loved him, but that she told him too late. He's been told so many times that she couldn't love him, and I imagine even the beauty of their relationship in S7 wasn't enough to completely fix all the damage. Plus, he was about to die to save the world. Not the best time to give the man you love the thing he wants most in the world, Buff! He's obviously going to think she's just giving it to him because he's about to die.

I think the laugh was more about finally finding a way to do something good, something great even, that made him a hero. Even if he didn't believe Buffy loved him, he was going to die to save the world. He was doing something that deserved remembrance and praise, and plus, he got to "see how it ends."

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

We all know the scene. (Some Bangels still wake up in a cold sweat with those words echoing in their ears)

Buffy: I love you...

Spike: No, you don't. But thanks for sayin' it.

My question is this, and it's not about the Spuffy relationship, pro, con, of neutral:

Do you think that Buffy ever told anyone about that final conversation? Personally, I think that she never mentioned it again. The moment was both very personal, and heartbreaking. She either didn't realize until too late, or, more likely, never ADMITTED until it was too late, her true feelings, and, because of her procrastination, the man who she loved went to his death believing that she never really cared, as far as she knew, anyhow. (I believe that Spike's laughter in those last moments was from the sheer joy of realization that she had finally confirmed what he had hoped for since halfway through Season 5.

I agree, friend. I too believe she never mentioned it again. After all, you say, it was very personal, and a special moment for her and Spike - why mention it to anyone else? It was between the two of them.

Regarding Spike's laughter: I agree with your theory on some level, but I think his laughter at that moment was also due to what James M. called Spike's ability to "find glee in all the wrong things." At the core of his little violence-and-carnage-loving heart, he found it somewhat exciting what was happening to him in that scene, I think. Spike was not only more then willing to allow himself to burn for the women he loved and for for the world he'd grown to love along with her, but he found pleasure in it. The pain meant nothing to him, after all, he's Spike - able to withstand torture and the obvious pain of getting a soul shoved back into him. He willingly and happily gave his life for Buffy. For me, his laughter = excitement, gleeful excitement. Spike's last words were so beautifully in character for him.

More than anything, I think he was terrified that Buffy would'nt make it out alive because she was distracted by him, that's why he rushed her out when I'm sure all he wanted was to leave with her, and explore what her 'i love you' meant and what she said earlier in the hallway.

Spike: Gotta move, lamb. I think it's fair to say school's out for bloody summer.
Buffy: Spike!
Spike: I mean it! I gotta do this.
...
Spike: I wanna see how it ends.

There's no fear there. Only excitement.

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[Professor Walsh]

Do you think that Buffy ever told anyone about that final conversation?

No, I don't think she did. Even in a normal situation among normal people, that would be a tough thing to talk about. With Buffy's history of trying to carry every emotional burden on her own I have a hard time imagining her talk about it.

 

[CrystalW187]

I agree with everyone, haha. Definitely doesn't seem like something Buffy would share with anyone else. I could see her eventually telling Dawn someday down the line, but that's it.

More than anything, I think he was terrified that Buffy would'nt make it out alive because she was distracted by him, that's why he rushed her out when I'm sure all he wanted was to leave with her, and explore what her 'i love you' meant and what she said earlier in the hallway.

Thank you for that, Joan. I never thought of it that way, and it makes me feel a whole lot better about Spike's dismissive response. I choose to believe that he was completely WRONG.

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

I agree with everyone, haha. Definitely doesn't seem like something Buffy would share with anyone else. I could see her eventually telling Dawn someday down the line, but that's it.



Thank you for that, Joan. I never thought of it that way, and it makes me feel a whole lot better about Spike's dismissive response. I choose to believe that he was completely WRONG.

Of course Spike was wrong! Buffy loved him no doubt. I refuse to believe that Buffy would lie about loving someone. It's not in her character. People have to fight for her love, and even people who deserve her love (Riley) don't get it.

Spike, though. He deserved her love, and she knew that. Spike just didn't believe it because he'd spent so long hearing it from her that she didn't love him - given some time, I'll bet she could have convinced him of her love. Too bad they never got that chance.

 

[Tranquillity]

I agree with you all; I don't think that Buffy ever told anyone else about their conversation. It continues their history of keeping the details of their involvement between themselves only. Maybe she'll speak of it to Dawn, perhaps Willow, when Spike makes his return. Maybe.