Discussion of "Angel: After the Fall #4" - Released 02/20/08 (IDW)

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Silverlake, a neighbourhood of LA. The demons have divided LA up in different areas, each with a Lord overseeing it. Lorne is the Lord of Silverlake.
The mystery girl is from issues 6+ I think.

Wow I enjoyed reading this issue. Lots of stuff going on makes it interesting, plus more dialog.
So Angel is human.. I loved his thoughts 'quick beheading, back to the fight. Heart's racing. Where was Gunn? He'll be fine. No he was dying. People screaming. HEART RACING?' 😛 And the flashback explained a lot.. he couldn't get to save Gunn because he broke his legs and back with the fall.. and also was unable to move for a long time because of that I'm guessing.
I hope Wesley is coming back 🙁 I suppose he is because he's on the next cover.. but still. Love that Groo is back I really like him. Not quite sure what Spider is talking about.. very in depth. Will have to re-read. I liked how she told Spike how he has a bond with Angel.
And whoah.. yeah it does look like the slayer sythe.. just not red.. so I didn't see it.
 
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Took me a while to realize what you were talking about VG 😛 Heh it is a she-skip ...that's really odd.
Wonder what's up with the flying cars in that future scene with Spike.. maybe he'll be in Fray.. damn that'd be awesome.

Shouldn't someone stake this thread, and un-stake the #3 one?
 
I enjoyed it, I was reading some before work the other day and someone turnedd round and said "What's that green thing?" lol they obviously saw Lorne on the page I was reading, that tickled me!
Anyway I was wondering where Angel went near the end cos you only see Lorne and Wes before he fades and Lorne's reaction to him was funny.
 
That is cute- though whether he'd be glad we find it cute, I do not know. Haha. On that though I had to move on and read his blog and he's vair, vair amusing. Like Joss-Style amusing. And he ended up going on about cheese graters.....

Okay that was ever so slightly off-topic but hey- I'm up later (or early) and so possibly delirious.
 
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I thought that was his real name too. Although, I guess some people called him The Groosalugg, so it might be a title instead.
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He earned it by being the undefeated champion, according to my recollection. The Groosalugg happened to have cow's blood, you know?

His mother's name was Periwinkle, so we know 'cows' give each other names in Pylea.
 
A short poll about A:ATF#4 - join in if you like🙂

Which cover did you get?

The Urru with Gun on the Cover, just saw the virgin Robinson for $15 at my comic shop, now I'm regretting not buying it.

Favourite character

Spike "“ I like how he won't condone using Illyria for nefarious purposes, and also how he seems to be keeping his eye on all the balls in play, Lords, Angel, mysterious artefacts and the people of LA.

Angel "“ Love that he's continuing the fight even though he is human and its hard.

Favourite surprise

That Angel has been human from moments after Not fade Away ended, and happy to discover how he was incapacitated for "˜months'.

Lorne is a Lord, and of course he's managed to do it without violence and it's a beautiful place to be (in its own demonic way)

Least favourite surprise

It's least favourite, so I'd have to say Groo's sudden appearance. He was never a fav of mine. I actually quite like the idea and I'm keen to see how it plays out.

Spider still doesn't have any clothes on! (well that's not such a surprise, just a disappointment)

Favourite panel of art

The panels of Angel looking out the window at W&H, and you can see his reflection. Yup, our boy really is human.

Gunn looking at the old photo of Team Angel.

Wolfram and Hart go BOOM!

FutureSpike!

Favourite line of dialogue

A: Heart Racing?

A: We agreed not to say that out loud. Fine. You said the H Word, let's"¦let's vent our feelings because we both love that.

W: Oh, my. Maybe its my time"¦maybe I can walk into the light"¦I can't leave now! He needs me! He Needs Me! Angel, you need me, right? Because if you don't"¦

NotFuries: Angel "“ Angel "“ We came for you "“ for you Angel. For you "“ Come with us - into the light "“ walk into the light "“ the light blue Acura "“ walk into the light blue Acura "“ it's in the garage "“ the parking garage "“ with other wonderful cars.

G: "¦almost made the whole damn thing worth it.

Least favourite line of dialogue

None, although I don't like Lorne's suit.

Question you most want answered

Where is Wesley? Will we get him back anytime soon? How?
What did that "˜oh' mean on the first page?
What is Spider's game? I don't trust her a bit.
What is the significance, if any of that Hagun Shaft?
Timeslips "“ no questions, I just want answers.
Can't wait for this big All-Lord/Champion confrontation, will it be in the next issue?
 
I dont' know about the rest of you guys but I'm not as interested in Angel as I am the Buffy comics. Angel just seems to be ALL over the place.
 
^ I agree, CharmedSlayer85. I have a much harder time following Angel. It's not as funny. It doesn't hold my interest as much.

That said, how does everyone feel about Angel being human? I found it kind of disappointing. I mean, a vampire glamour? Really? It just seems sort of like a gimmick or a cheap thrill.

I did really enjoy Groo's dialogue, though. It was funny. I think he needs to deal with Cordy's death, though, and that Lorne needs to have changed more as a result of having committed murder.
 
AFTER THE FALL REREAD -- #4

Official Angel: After the Fall reread #4

Every issue of After the Fall has been good so far, but this was my favorite yet.

A lot happened, even though it was another sort of setup issue. We finally found out why Angel was mysteriously out of commission for so long. I LOVED the reveal with that. Wolfram & Hart somehow teleporting him away from the "Not Fade Away" final fight and making him human was pretty crazy. And the way he discovers he's human, leaping off that building and feeling his heart racing, was incredible. The explanation of Wesley being the one healing him was neat. Although it does stack the odds against Angel with the big brawl-for-all he has coming up against the champions of all the Hell lords.

Not a ton of Spike in this issue, but the scene he was in was pretty cool. There's clearly a lot going on with Illyria we don't know about yet, and Spike seems to really care for her. That magical rod the demon lords gave him will have a big part to play I'm betting. And there was another interesting time-slip as well. Seeing Spike with Buffy's scythe standing over a headless body (in a regular, not-hell-looking city) was very interesting.

I liked the return of Groo too! I wasn't expecting him back but it was neat, and getting to see Lorne again was awesome. I wasn't sure, after his final arc in "Not Fade Away" if he'd be back, but I like the idea of him helping Angel from the shadows.

The Gunn stuff at the end was the best part of the issue. Blowing up W&H headquarters was a LONG time coming, and it's clear he has some deeper stuff going on as well. Digging out the picture of the old Angel Investigations team was sad, in a longing sort of way.

Overall great issue! What did you guys think?
 
Angel finding out he was human was neat.

I loved that Lorne is all set up in his own town and he is the violence free leader.I was a little surprised to see Groo; totally wasn't expecting to see his character again.

Gunn holding the picture of the gang was a bit sad....then his blowing up W&H! Poor Gunn!
 
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