Discussion of Angel: After the Fall #6 - Released 4/02/08 (IDW)

ATF seems to be a case of the sum is greater than the parts. When its all over I plan on readying the story from right after NFA ended till the free for all battle. With Buffy you have a few storie lines all playing out at diffrent speeds. Angel has only one
 
ATF seems to be a case of the sum is greater than the parts. When its all over I plan on readying the story from right after NFA ended till the free for all battle. With Buffy you have a few storie lines all playing out at diffrent speeds. Angel has only one

I don't think Angel only has one storyline, most of the characters all have their own storylines. You are right in a way though, because in A:AtF all the characters storylines are all inextricably linked to the main plot of LA-in-Hell. That's why I think it might seem like a single story lines. Whereas with Buffy, all the storylines of the different characters are not directly results from the main Twilight-storyline.
 
A:ATF is a stew prepared by drunken frat boys. "Hey, let's throw some of this in".

Buffy Season 8 is fine dining prepared by a master chef.

Some people prefer one. Some the other.
 
Whereas with Buffy, all the storylines of the different characters are not directly results from the main Twilight-storyline.

Maybe not yet but I think just like the tv show the comic will eventually pull every arc together that will all interweeve with Twilight. You can't really compare ATF and S8 in my opinion becuase Buffy will be a 40 issue monster. It has more to time to spend telling it's story. ATF is much shorter so it has to make everything connect quicker than S8.
 
Maybe not yet but I think just like the tv show the comic will eventually pull every arc together that will all interweeve with Twilight. You can't really compare ATF and S8 in my opinion becuase Buffy will be a 40 issue monster. It has more to time to spend telling it's story. ATF is much shorter so it has to make everything connect quicker than S8.

Actually I think it's the other way. Buffy tells its stories 4-part arcs, whereas Angel features only one stories split into 14-parts... obviously, this one has lots more details.
 
Actually I think it's the other way. Buffy tells its stories 4-part arcs, whereas Angel features only one stories split into 14-parts... obviously, this one has lots more details.

Oh, absolutely. I read most of an issue of Buffy S8, looked at a few others, and the thing I first noticed (other than all their in-book artists needing to teach Urru how to draw, which really isn't a problem anymore) was how little detail there was, about anything important. The second thing I noticed was that the story seriously lacked cohesion. Even if everything came together at the end it'd be beause of some ex machina, or because they simply intersect at the end, but there's no common theme I can find. I noticed other things, but those two things are totally vital and crucial to me in a fiction property, and you're completely right that Angel is packed to the brim with revelations, a close sense of relation to every other issue, and even tiny details here and there that super fans, like people that would belong and post on a msg board about it, really appreciate.

Also, the character development has been unreal. Not only did I imagine that restarting the series would be a near impossible endevour, which now makes me feel like an idiot, but that I wouldn't possibly come to feel genuinely closer to the characters than I did before, and it's happening in spades.
 
I mean you say Angel is about a group of friends trying to make the world a better place, but Buffy is about that as well. If it wasn't for her group of friends Buffy would've been dead in Season One. Also on top of that is you look at Angel he's disconnected from his friends as well. Gunn is a vampire trying to kill Angel, Spike and Illyria are on their side of the town, Connor is doing whatever with his people, Lorne is living in a paradise in this hell type dimension of LA and even though they banded together in comic #5 they're still pretty much disconnected. They don't even know Angel is human. And with Buffy you can't expect the Scobby Gang to remain completely inseperable. I mean Buffy has her life and her calling, Willow has her life and her training and learning more about the mystics and on top of that her relationship, Dawn has her life and was away back in America at college before she became a giant, Xander has his life and even went to have a romantic getaway with Dracula for a year after the events of Chosen and will probably have a life with Renee, Giles has his life with trying to get the watcher's counsel back in order and now his mission with Faith of rehabilitating rogue slayers, and also since the events of Lies My Parents Told Me, Buffy and Giles' relationship has been strained
 
Oh, absolutely. I read most of an issue of Buffy S8, looked at a few others, and the thing I first noticed (other than all their in-book artists needing to teach Urru how to draw, which really isn't a problem anymore) was how little detail there was, about anything important. The second thing I noticed was that the story seriously lacked cohesion. Even if everything came together at the end it'd be beause of some ex machina, or because they simply intersect at the end, but there's no common theme I can find. I noticed other things, but those two things are totally vital and crucial to me in a fiction property, and you're completely right that Angel is packed to the brim with revelations, a close sense of relation to every other issue, and even tiny details here and there that super fans, like people that would belong and post on a msg board about it, really appreciate.

Also, the character development has been unreal. Not only did I imagine that restarting the series would be a near impossible endevour, which now makes me feel like an idiot, but that I wouldn't possibly come to feel genuinely closer to the characters than I did before, and it's happening in spades.

I have to agree totally here, and a prime example of the excellent character development (and I know this has been said many times) is the awesome treatment Connor is getting. We're getting to see what a good upbringing has turned this future Champion into, something I believe Joss had planned to show us during season six had it been televised.
 
Yeah I don't think Angel is going to be as long as Buffy, so as a result everything has to be laid out on the table as opposed to Buffy. Buffy is suppose to continue for like the next 2 years, cause there are going to be 40 issues and with each issue coming out one a month that's about 3 1/2 years all together. We're only on issue 13 with Buffy and we still got 27 more to go. And I believe Angel is only 12 issues and we're already on issue 6 so only 6 more to go, so everything has to be wrapped up and let's remember the comics aren't that long.
 
I just couldn't get into this issue. I think it's the same problem I have with most prequels, we already know what happens. There's no suspense.
 
These are so bad! lol

This one especially. It's like a 13 year old boy wrote it. No offense to 13 year old boys - there are probably a lot of those that could write better than this.

Now I remember why I stopped reading this series the last time I tried.
 
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