First Look at BtVS Season 10

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We'll see. The sales aren't exactly stellar.

Isn't it still one of Dark Horses best sellers though?

And since DH just lost the Star Wars franchise, I'd be surprised if its going anywhere any time soon!
 
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It sells pretty well, considering its not a non-marvel/DC title.
After Spike spent sometime at Xander's place in S7, Xander's attitude toward him changed into objectively supportive of Buffy's decision to help him. I've always thought it was a wasted opportunity not to have explored their relationship while they were living together and it was one of the main reasons why I hated S7.

So this is an issue I'll excitedly wait for.
 
New images and synopsises...that's not a word. Anyway...

Spike: Into the Light Graphic Novel



Cover by Steve Morris

He played Spike on the show, and now James Marsters writes a poignant but action-packed story of the vampire who chose to have a soul, and now has to deal with his past while being compelled to play the hero.

Onsale July 16th

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BtVS S10 #3




Cover by Rebecca Isaacs



Cover by Steve Morris

Actor Nicholas Brendon joins the creative team as his character Xander acquires help from his old friend"”um, master"”Dracula. The new vampires are still a mystery, and unquestionably similar to Drac . . . Meanwhile, Buffy and Willow track down one of those new vampires as a study specimen!

Onsale May 21st

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A&F S10 #2



Cover by Scott Fischer

As Faith awkwardly settles into her new job at Kennedy's bodyguards-for-hire company, Angel is finding that he knows less than everyone about what is going on in London's magic town. Trying to get to the bottom of a fiendish group of scheming pixies, Angel travels further down a really wrong road . . .
 
Well, this thread was an interesting read for me, especially [MENTION=7585]Kean[/MENTION] and [MENTION=12614]thetopher[/MENTION] 's conversation. I have never read a comic book in my life so I wasn't planning on reading any of these. Then I decided it's Buffy and how could I not?? I made it almost to the end of S8 and I just had to stop. The characters were so insanely different from the ones on the TV series I couldn't take it. And the whole destroying Angel's character with the messy Twilight story (which I still don't understand...Angel was evil...but not really...then he and Buffy conceived a universe...where there was a seed that destroyed the magic...and...WHAT?).

Anyway, after reading all this I feel like maybe I need to read on. Mostly because there's a freaking mini-Giles and I want to know where he came from!!
 
Interview with Nicholas Brendan and a random image that I'm sure fits into S10 somewhere, I just don't know where or how, lol.
Non-super-powered sidekick no more! When Dark Horse releases Buffy the Vampire: Season 10 #1 in March, it's Xander who will be leading the Scooby Gang "” or more accurately, Nicholas Brendon will. The actor has joined the comic's writing team, and we interviewed him to discuss the return of Dracula, Giles' new affinity for boobs, and whether Buffy needs to be killed again.


io9: How did you get involved with the Buffy comics and with Dark Horse?

Brendon: They had always just wanted to work with me because of what an amazing writer I was. [laughs] It's funny, I don't really know how. I think it was at San Diego Comic-Con, because I know [Editor] Scott Allie has worked with other actors on the comics "” they've worked with Juliet Landau, and I know they worked with James [Marsters], and I'd heard about that. So I talked with Scott at Comic-Con a couple of years ago and was like "Yeah, dude, I'll do it." It was just kind of one of those things, and I did the Buffy comics writing summit about a year ago and then I got paired up with [current comics writer] Christos Gage and we went to town.

What was the writing summit like?

Brendon: We were all kind of sitting in a circle, and we were there for hours. And then we had this idea for the main plotline through this season. And we were just kind of talking and all these ideas were floating in-between the circle, and they all amalgamated into this pretty amazing story. Watching it come into existence was amazing. I had to stop and be like "Did you guys realize what just happened? We just changed everything." It was neat to just be among all those great writers "” Joss included "” and see this thing come into being. It's really cool. But I can't talk about it.


What's it been like to create actual stories for these characters?

Brendon: A lot of it is just ideas that I've had in the past, and we'll be going over the outline or I'll be reading what we've got. It's funny because there's actually some stuff coming up with Xander and Spike. I just saw the drawings of what the covers might be, so I need to talk to Scott because I have a couple of ideas about that. So it's kind of like ideas will just come and I'll say "Hey, how about this?" And then they'll just say "” well, actually, I guess I've never been told no yet, so I guess my ideas are decent. Maybe I should pitch killing Buffy. Does that sound good? Just kill her dead.

Well, there's certainly precedent. How easy is it to write for the other characters? I'm assuming you have Xander pretty well down.

Brendon: Well, I'm not sure what you know and what you don't know about the previous comics, but Giles is a kid now, and I just feel he should be talking about boobs more. I just bring a certain immaturity level to this thing. Because the comics are so smart"” they've got smarts all over it. Sometimes it just needs to be really immature. Think of me as the Bill Murray of this scenario.

Are you finished with the writing now?

Brendon: No. We finished a main arc and then we start with the new arc in the next week or two.

How many issues are you writing?

Brendon: That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, so far I've done three. But I kind of want to stay involved. I think as long as I want to do it they'll let me. Everyone's gotten sick. I got really sick in Portland a couple weeks ago, then got Christos sick and then Scott got really sick. So that's kind of slowed things down a little bit, because I got people sick "” which I'm not proud of.

How much can you say about season 10?

Brendon: Probably nothing. Like if Scott [Allie] were sitting here right now he'd be like "nope." He's very "shut up." I'm shocked he's letting me talk to you right now. I think he must be listening in.

I know Dracula is coming back, which is always great, since Xander and he have such a complicated relationship.

Brendon: He is. He's wonderful. It goes straight from the Xander/Dracula story to the Xander/Spike stuff which is going to be a lot of fun.

You know, there's an Angel and Faith comic, so I don't see any reason why they can't have Xander and Dracula as a spin-off comic.

Brendon: Right? That would actually be enjoyable.


What have you thought about the previous season 8 and 9 comics? How do you think they compare to the show?

Brendon: Oh, it's so different. I mean, before this [gig] I hadn't been reading the comics. I missed Xander too much, you know? It was kind of like it's Xander but it's not. It looks like me but it's not. So when I first picked it up, Spike was on a giant bug ship, and I was like "Whaaat?" Because that was completely weird.

Writing comics is completely different than the TV show, because you have much more freedom to try stuff. And I think Joss has said the comics are its own entity, like if we were ever to do a Buffy movie it wouldn't necessarily be based on the comics. You can just get so much more fantastical on comics. You have the ideas and then you just draw them. It's really epic. It's a lot more fantasy based.

And Xander and Dawn are now in a relationship, which was weird for me, but I just had to say okay, well, this is the way comics are and this comic is. I just kind of jumped on board with that.

Speaking of Dawn, how do you feel about Xander hooking up with her in the comics?

Brendon: Well honestly, when I first found out, I was weirded out. When I think of Dawn I think of Michelle [Trachtenberg], who was like 13 or 14 when she came on the show. So I always thought of her that way, and then about two or three years ago I saw a spread in FHM magazine and she's grown up. And at that point I'm totally down with Xander and Dawn. I'm down.

Do you ever see Michelle Trachtenberg? Has this your comics-dating ever come up in conversation?

Brendon: I haven't seen her since we started comic dating, but when I do see her she'll know right away. I won't hide it. I'll sneak up behind her.

At this point pretty much the entire Buffy cast has died and been resurrected. Do you think Xander should get his damn eye back?

Brendon: No. No.

Really?

Brendon: Yeah, 'cause he looks great in comic book form. Actually, it would be a cool thing to talk to Scott about, for a potential story where I have the opportunity to get my eye back, but I don't want it back. I don't want to erase the past. Me personally "” that's not Xander speaking, because all he wants to do is erase the past.

The Buffy comics are well known for their utterly gorgeous Jo Chen covers. How do you feel about looking so ridiculously sexy on these things?

Brendon: Well, when you're as sexy as I am, you get used to it. I'll wake up in the morning and brush my teeth, you know, shave, and I'm like "God, Nick, you are ridiculously sexy." And then I think, "You know, these comics aren't doing me any justice."





I imagine this is by Isaacs. I don't like Willow's hair. It was never that...orange.
 
So the Buffy comic is getting more immature and has two arcs that are based around Xander and Dracula followed by Xander and Spike...?

At least there's Angel & Faith!
 
Yeah, I'm not sure about this at all. Giles in Angel & Faith was just about right- an adult mind trapped in an young teen body struggling with hormones. And while Giles getting bothered around Faith was fun (mainly Faith's freaking out at Giles reaction...🙂 ), who exactly is he going to be oggling in the Scoobies- Buffy? Willow? Dawn? 😱. This just seems...really weak to me. I don't remember watching Buffy and going 'hey, this show needs more boob jokes' 🙄
Although I do like the idea of the return of Dracula- a vampire who did play very well off of Xander, in an 'odd couple' kind of way.
Again, I remain firmly sceptical about the merits of Xander and Spike rooming-and I'm not sure Nic's interview helped. (although I like his honest answers about the Xander/Dawn relationship- changing his mind about it when MT became a hottie. 😀)

Other than that, I'm still relying on Angel & Faith to provide the quality character/story arcs...so just like last Season then.
 
And also is the Spike series 'Into the Light' definitly canon?
It sure looks like it. Hopefully it will 1) Add something interesting to his character. and 2) Kill any lingering Spuffy that remains after Season 9, cause seriously, it needs to be over.

On, and yeah, I hope Buffy has something to do this season and we don't just get Giles making lots of boob jokes and Xander and Spike paling around. That would suck.

Honestly, I'm not sure of the merits of an actor writing a comic book. 🙁
 
I think NB's interview skews the canon thing a little bit more. We've spoken about it a lot before but he seems to confirm that there is the TV canon and the comic canon and they aren't the same thing at all. I'd prefer if that were the case, it would make the comics easier to swallow.

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And I agree about actors writing. Unless it is Danny Strong, who has more than proven his ability, then I really don't want to see any actors name attached to these scripts.
 
Oh I missed the covers posted above, I LOVE the Faith one!

As for actors writing the comics, I really hate that idea, it's a complete gimmick, and the fact that they don't know that it's just the hardcore fans reading the comics and couldn't give a toss about gimmicks is worrying.

Unless, like Kean said, it was someone like Danny Strong, who has gone on to prove himself a fantastic writer and they invited him back, to mix gimick in with talent, then I don't see a point!
 
New images, A&F #3...I think...





Billy's apparently a demon now...a dead demon. I think I like that better than Slayer, lol.

I don't know why, but I don't really like the main covers for A&F this season. They're too...arty, or something. Almost like they're trying too hard. There's almost no concept to these, other than showing who's going to be in the issue.
 
Billy as a character makes no sense at all. I don't dislike him exactly, I just think...meh, kinda shit. 🙁

The covers are okay, a bit arty, but they stand out. Like Kean, I doubt Faith can actually play the guitar, but she might've dated a band member or two and picked up a few things, who knows. 🙂

In A&F I like that they're giving the two characters a chance to breath without each other, hopefully they can concentrate on plotting and personality before their strands intertwine again.
Again I picking up a good vibe from A&F, not so much from Buffy, which...doesn't really surprise me anymore. 🙄
 
I dunno, I'm just not liking the art for A&F this season. The main covers are too washed out (that one with Pearl and Angel doesn't even look finished) and the alternates look too bright, over-saturated.

Bring back Jeanty. Please. I'll get down on my hands and knees and beg if I have to.
 
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And I agree about actors writing. Unless it is Danny Strong, who has more than proven his ability, then I really don't want to see any actors name attached to these scripts.

But who's to say that James and Nicholas aren't good writers? Have we seen anything that they wrote previously? (At least I haven't. Maybe they did, and I just missed it) People said that having Nimoy direct Star Trek 3 was just a gimmick too, but it turned out to be one of the most successful movies in the franchise, and he went on to direct a variety of quite successful movies, including "Three Men And A Baby." Maybe their efforts will be total disaster, but maybe not. Maybe I'll hate them, and maybe I'll love them, but I'm not going to form any opinion before I see what they can do.
 
James has written a Spike comic before and it didn't sell well, if memory serves. It was a graphic novel, written in 2000, featuring Spike and Dru. I don't think it's considered canon, and I don't think this one he's trotting out now should be either.

The main problem I have with James writing this comic is because it's a story that James has been pandering at cons for years now. He tells the story a lot, so everyone pretty much knows what to expect in this book.

Another problem I have is with canon. This book takes place during the early part of S7, but it deals with things like Spike leaving Sunnydale, when we know he didn't, and meeting a girl, with whom he has a 'meaningful, important' relationship. That is going to send people mad, Spuffies will complain that Spike shouldn't be thinking of anyone buy Buffy, others will be dismissing this as unimportant, and still others will be saying that Spike doesn't deserve Buffy if he can forget about her so quickly.

It could be a huge mess.
 
James has written a Spike comic before and it didn't sell well, if memory serves. It was a graphic novel, written in 2000, featuring Spike and Dru. I don't think it's considered canon, and I don't think this one he's trotting out now should be either.

The main problem I have with James writing this comic is because it's a story that James has been pandering at cons for years now. He tells the story a lot, so everyone pretty much knows what to expect in this book.

Another problem I have is with canon. This book takes place during the early part of S7, but it deals with things like Spike leaving Sunnydale, when we know he didn't, and meeting a girl, with whom he has a 'meaningful, important' relationship. That is going to send people mad, Spuffies will complain that Spike shouldn't be thinking of anyone buy Buffy, others will be dismissing this as unimportant, and still others will be saying that Spike doesn't deserve Buffy if he can forget about her so quickly.

It could be a huge mess.

I had forgotten about James writing that. Still, he wouldn't be the first writer to write an unsuccessful story. Maybe he learned from his mistakes. Anyhow, as long as it's not canon, as, I agree, having him leave Sunnydale during Season 7, unless some sort of time warp were involved, it won't be anything that couldn't be skipped without missing something relevant to the ongoing story.

And, to bring up "Star Trek" as an example once more, Roddenberry talked about his ideas for a full length movie for years before it actually was made, and I never thought of it as pandering. I still say, it might be a good, interesting story, and this Spuffy shipper has no plans of complaining about Spike having a meaningful relationship with anyone other than Buffy. Why should he NOT have a little happiness for a change? None of the other characters in the series remained faithful to only one person throughout the entire run of the two shows. Why should he be the exception?
 
But who's to say that James and Nicholas aren't good writers? Have we seen anything that they wrote previously? (At least I haven't. Maybe they did, and I just missed it) People said that having Nimoy direct Star Trek 3 was just a gimmick too, but it turned out to be one of the most successful movies in the franchise, and he went on to direct a variety of quite successful movies, including "Three Men And A Baby." Maybe their efforts will be total disaster, but maybe not. Maybe I'll hate them, and maybe I'll love them, but I'm not going to form any opinion before I see what they can do.

I didn't say they weren't good, I said they weren't proven. And they aren't. Writing a little bit a few years ago shouldn't lead to being invited to contribute to canon in the same way Joss, Espenson and other Buffy writers have.

Once again this comes down to the question I constantly use as my yard post for the comics: Would this have happened on the show?

Absolutely not.
 
and this Spuffy shipper has no plans of complaining about Spike having a meaningful relationship with anyone other than Buffy. Why should he NOT have a little happiness for a change? None of the other characters in the series remained faithful to only one person throughout the entire run of the two shows. Why should he be the exception?

It's nothing about being faithful - and, while we're on that note, only Willow, Xander and Dawn have been known to cheat on the people they were with - it's the fact that, to some people, this WILL be seen as cheating.

Spike, during S7, insisted that he loved Buffy, that he was the only one who was truly in Buffy's corner, the only one there for her, the one who will ALWAYS be there for - and yet, he leaves her for an unknown length of time and has a meaningful, fulfilling fling with someone else.

This story just...stomps all over canon. I'm no Spuffy, but if I was, I would see this as a HUGE slap in the face. Maybe it's just me, I'm not the kind of person who believes that you can be in love with two people at the same time, and the way James talks about the character Spike has this relationship with, he seems to think that it is love. And I think that's really disrespectful to the characters and to the show. He's basically saying 'screw that, I'm going to write what I want to write, regardless of what happened in the show'.

He might be an amazing writer, I don't know, but from what I can tell from the idea of this comic, he's just very ignorant to the canon of the show. The story, the way he talks about it, could have fitted into a dozen different places within the canon of the story - AtS S5, ATF, S8, even pre-soul. And yet, he chose the time frame that was going to cause the most issues.
 
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