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Please help me silence all these Twilight fans who think their vampire stories are the best! We all know that Buffy > Twilight, so become a fan of this page and invite your friends!!


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Well, I was advertising the fan page, just figured here is where I'd find the most people who agree and would like to add it. If it's against the rules then by all means, remove it and I apologize. I didn't see anything wrong with asking other Buffy fans to support the Buffy vs Twilight argument.
 
I dunno, while I do think that Buffy is better, I did enjoy the Twilight books. I think its silly that people go out of their way to create hate pages. If you don't like it that is fine and it is your opinion, but why do you have to go out of your way to bash what these people enjoy? Just let the poor people like it. If it makes them happy, then why do you need to rain on their parade? I find these things tend to pressure them out of being fans, which is happening in many schools. We have fans on this board too! Do you not feel hurt by the people who go out of their way to say that Buffy is annoying or silly? This is the same thing.
 
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Yep. Hate groups suck. I like both Buffy & Twilight for very different reasons.
I totally get your point and agree, but there are many who hate on Buffy claiming that Twilight is so much better, which is why I made the group. Twilight changed too many things from the way Buffy did the Vampire thing, which is why I find it hard to fathom that someone could like both. I am not trying to "hurt" twilight fans, just trying to put them in check and let them know that it is not the best vampire series.
 
I dunno, while I do think that Buffy is better, I did enjoy the Twilight books. I think its silly that people go out of their way to create hate pages. If you don't like it that is fine and it is your opinion, but why do you have to go out of your way to bash what these people enjoy? Just let the poor people like it. If it makes them happy, then why do you need to rain on their parade? I find these things tend to pressure them out of being fans, which is happening in many schools. We have fans on this board too! Do you not feel hurt by the people who go out of their way to say that Buffy is annoying or silly? This is the same thing.


Yeah i know what yer saying. I used to hate people who were so anti twilight, but now i see why. I loved the books<3 Although i hate hate hate the whole Twilight thing these days because of the fandom and popularity.
Ye i'm weird and probably don't make sense, :3
I dunno why i really joined, ha, maybe out of boredom? Oh and because i'd rather choose Buffy over Twilight anyday. 🙂
 
I love Buffy and I love Twilight. The very reason that I do like Twilight is because Stephenie Meyer took something that is so widely known and put her own spin on it. How boring would the world be if every vampire story was the same? And I think you saying "I'm not trying to hurt Twilight fans, just trying to put them in check and let them know that it is not the best vampire series" comes across as you saying that you're right and anyone who likes Twilight is wrong, which is not the case. You're wording is offensive, as is your motive for creating the group. I respect your opinion that Twilight sucks, but please also respect the opinions of people who do like Twilight and realize that your opinion doesn't put anyone "in check"- it just angers people and makes them think you're being a jerk.
 
I totally get your point and agree, but there are many who hate on Buffy claiming that Twilight is so much better, which is why I made the group. Twilight changed too many things from the way Buffy did the Vampire thing, which is why I find it hard to fathom that someone could like both. I am not trying to "hurt" twilight fans, just trying to put them in check and let them know that it is not the best vampire series.

Well if they hate on Buffy and say Twilight is better than I doubt they've seen Buffy 😛 I find people who have not even read or seen twilight seem to hate it just because it has a fanbase. I'm thinking that maybe it is the same thing with Twilighters in reference to Buffy? Not all of them of course, but maybe they say it is worse just because they are upset that we have similar vampire-esque fandom.

Oh and I do enjoy both so I guess I'm an odd one 🙂 But we've got some others (Angels Baby for example) who like it. I do know that it is not the best. I dont mean to stereotype but I think the girls who think that Twilight is better than everything are a specific type of fan. As in the ones who throw themselves at the actors crying and give movie employees nose bleeds (yes that is from past experience 😉 My freakin nose....). I mean, most of us who consider ourselves fans are pretty calm but unfortunatly those girls stand out the most and therefore the fandom is branded as crazy fangirls who bash everything that is not Twilight. So I get where you are coming from, but you are still hurting the feelings of the people who do not feel that way about Buffy and Twilight.
 
Washburne
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I hope this aint gonna start a fight! Mwuhaha.
It would be interesting though to see how many people took Buffys side or vice versa.
🙂 😛
 
I'm a fan of both (Kean, don't kill me!) I liked the books, I like the movies, and I'm a freaking huge BtVS fan. But putting the hate on Twilight because Stephanie Meyer changed the vampire lore is wrong, in my opinion.

Laurell K. Hamilton changed vampire lore.

Eric Kripke changed vampire lore.

Whoever wrote Vampire Diaries changed vampire lore.

Anne Rice changed vampire lore.

Joss Whedon changed vampire lore!

Everyone who has ever written anything concerning vampires has changed the lore to fit their own stories. It's the nature of writers. You can't expect everything concerning vampires, demons, werewolves or witches to be the same in every fandom. We'd get pretty bored with the same stuff being churned out.

There are people out there who don't watch BtVS because of how different Joss' version of vampires are compared to Anne Rice or Bram Stoker.

Yes, I admit that BtVS is far surpirior to Twilight, and Twilight is in no way the best vampire series, but there are people who are capable of being a fan of both, because the stories are so different and varied, it's nice to have a change.
 
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BuffyElevated
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Very well said, Lyri! I completely agree.
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no guys, you are taking it the wrong way. I wasn't saying it was wrong for Meyer to change the vampire aspects set by Joss. I was just saying that she did so in such a drastic measure that it's hard to believe that someone could like Buffy then also like Twilight, since Buffy was done (imo) in such a genius way, it's like taking a step down.

and the main point is to see how many people will take the Buffy side of the war. it's not like I plan of going on Twilight fan pages and posting negative posts or posting the link to the page. Honestly I didn't think I would get these much of a negative response to the page on an actual Buffy forum.
 
no guys, you are taking it the wrong way. I wasn't saying it was wrong for Meyer to change the vampire aspects set by Joss. I was just saying that she did so in such a drastic measure that it's hard to believe that someone could like Buffy then also like Twilight, since Buffy was done (imo) in such a genius way, it's like taking a step down.

and the main point is to see how many people will take the Buffy side of the war. it's not like I plan of going on Twilight fan pages and posting negative posts or posting the link to the page. Honestly I didn't think I would get these much of a negative response to the page on an actual Buffy forum.

So just because it's different it's not as good? I don't understand that. To me, they shouldn't even compare. The only thing they have in common is that there are vampires involved in both stories. Twilight is SO different than Buffy, and vice versa. And different does not = bad.
Hey, we're all HERE so obviously we must ALL be huge Buffy fans. But those of us who happen to like both Buffy and the Twilight saga don't see a need for competition and that's why we get defensive when people try to impose one.
 
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Tasha
I said no fighting! *bad britt* LMao kidding, i do agree with you though, i was just hyper and joined out of stupidity. Mwuhaha/ :)
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thevikingsgirl
It's definitely entirely possible to like both. I feel no need to declare a "winner" and I also love Charlaine Harris. :)
So just because it's different it's not as good? I don't understand that. To me, they shouldn't even compare. The only thing they have in common is that there are vampires involved in both stories. Twilight is SO different than Buffy, and vice versa. And different does not = bad.
Hey, we're all HERE so obviously we must ALL be huge Buffy fans. But those of us who happen to like both Buffy and the Twilight saga don't see a need for competition and that's why we get defensive when people try to impose one.

Well I don't mean to offend, I am just fishing for those who take my point of view to join the page.

It's not bad because it's different, it's bad because I'm am a very loyal person (not to say the rest of you aren't). When I like something I get stuck on it and become close minded about the subject, maybe to a fault. And the only reason I'm comparing is because so many have already done it, but the only stance I've heard was Twilight is better, so I wanted to impose the opposite side to the argument.
 
and the main point is to see how many people will take the Buffy side of the war. it's not like I plan of going on Twilight fan pages and posting negative posts or posting the link to the page. Honestly I didn't think I would get these much of a negative response to the page on an actual Buffy forum.


Well I think that is because you were not aware that one could be a fan of both Buffy and Twilight. Even if your not one of the huge fans, -as I'm not even though I do enjoy the saga-, we know that we do have big fans on here and I know what its like getting bashed for liking the Buffy fandom.

I do like your idea of seeing who will take what side of the war. I just wish it was not done in such a negative way.
 
Tasha agrees: I said no fighting! *bad britt* LMao kidding, i do agree with you though, i was just hyper and joined out of stupidity. Mwuhaha/ 🙂
LOL I'm not fighting!! I'm just trying to make him understand that just because his opinion is one thing and mine is another it doesn't make either one of us right or wrong. The way he's wording things offends me, so I was trying to make him understand why.
But I'm good. I've made my point and now I'm done. 🙂
 
I think the negative response is more to do with the fact that you think someone is incapable of being fans of both genres.

To me, that means you think people who are fans of BtVS can't be fans of the original Dracula novel, or Interview with a Vampire, or the Blade movies, or the Anita Blake novels or, hell, even Supernatural.

I, personally, am a HUGE fan of anything to do with vampires, I love all the differences each writer brings to the world and I love seeing what each writer takes from others, and how they can build their own little place in vampire mythology.

I'll be the first to admit that Twilight is definitely not the best vampire novel ever to be written, that place is probably reserved for Bram Stoker, IMO, he's the one who started it all, the reason we're all sitting here, but it's hardly the worst, and it's made Stephanie Meyer and very rich woman.

And it made my baby sister actually read a book, something Joss ands Co. could NEVER do, so if I ever meet Ms. Meyer, I will probably kiss her. Just saying, lol.
 
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You are all making really good points, and yes, everyone has a right to an opinion of their own. I am a fan of other Vampire series, I just feel like Twilight made vampires look bad, which is why I dislike it. I would feel the same way about any other series that makes vampires look bad. To me vampires should be exactly as they are in Buffy, which is why it is first on my list. I did not mean to start an outbreak of hate for me lol, just trying to get supporters on the buffy side of the argument, if you like both then that's fine, don't take sides.
 
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Nobody hates you ;)
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
Nobody hates you. We just don't agree with you. LOL
No one's hating on you, lol, like you said, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and what they think is the 'real' version of vampires.

Twilight didn't exactly create anything magical and life changing with it's version of vampires, I mean, hello? Sparkling vamps? Really?! But there are other people who are thinking the same thing about Joss' vampires. I remember when I first watched the show, I was annoyed that vampires were walking around during the day, and they didn't sleep in coffins, and their faces changed when they fed, and they showed up on film, and they could enter churches and all the other stuff Joss created for his show, because up until then, the only introduction I had to vampires was Dracula and Lestat. But I learned to love the series for what it was, a new interpretation of the mythology of vampires.

I will agree that I think Joss' idea of vampires is one of the best out there, but I'm also a huge fan of Laurell K. Hamilton's vampires, who literally die when the sun rises, their bodies cease to 'live' and to kill a vampire, you have to drive a stake through their heart, or blow it away with a high powered gun, cut off their head, burn the remains, and scatter the ashes over a running river. Everyone has a different idea as to what a vampire should be.
 
I don't see anything wrong in having a Buffy>Twilight group. But it doesn't have to mean that Twilight sucks or anything. I've only watched the movies and thought they were about average so it's not like I'm a fan of Twilight. But the same way I get annoyed about people bashing Buffy without knowing more or less knowing nothing about it I'm not fond of people bashing Twilight "just because..." or tell people that Buffy or something is superior. People are free to think what ever they want on either Buffy, Twilight or anything else. But telling people they're wrong because they think differently is in my opinion wrong.

We've had Twilight discussions before and people weren't always nice which can be a reason why it's such a touchy subject. I'd take Buffy over Twilight any time but I won't start talking badly about Twilight because of it. As Emzzie said I think a lot of people get anti Twilight just because of how some of it's fans behave. But as this board has experienced recently, just because some fan of a show is/behaves a certain way it doesn't mean that everyone is like that. And most often you don't want to be associated with those people at all. So please don't judge everyone because someone is giving x a bad reputation.
 
Lyri
Lyri
Well said, sweetie
BuffyElevated
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*HUGS* Very well said.
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