Fox Cancelled Series with Whedonverse Connections

Fox should never have cancelled...(multiple votes allowed)

  • Wonderfalls (Tim Minear)

    Votes: 19 42.2%
  • Firefly (Joss, and everyone else connected)

    Votes: 35 77.8%
  • Tru Calling (Eliza Dushku, Jane Espenson)

    Votes: 30 66.7%
  • Drive (Tim Minear, Nathan Fillion, Amy Acker and many others)

    Votes: 18 40.0%
  • Point Pleasant (Marti Noxon

    Votes: 9 20.0%
  • The Tick (Ben Edlund)

    Votes: 4 8.9%
  • The Inside (Tim Minear, David Fury, Jane Espenson, Adam Baldwin

    Votes: 10 22.2%
  • Kitchen Confidential (Nicholas Brandon)

    Votes: 12 26.7%
  • Greg the Bunny (Seth Green)

    Votes: 9 20.0%
  • All of the above

    Votes: 4 8.9%

  • Total voters
    45

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Did you ever notice how many Fox canceled series have Whedonverse connections? Some of them had a better chance at actually succeeding than others I think.

Other series canceled by Fox include...

Millennium
Herman's head
The Lone Gunmen
Arrested Development
John Doe
Keen Eddie
 
Must these nice Whedon-folk always sign with FOX? Surely they realize it's hit or miss with those morons (mostly miss), and a huge waste of time. The cable networks is where it's at, or so I am led to believe.

Oh, and I picked the top five.
 
I just picked them all cos it seems to me that most of the shows werent given much of a chance at all. Most didnt even seem to get a full season. whether I liked them all or not is irrelevant, no one really got a chance to find out.
 
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Allycat
Too true, FOX is the worse network when it comes to how they handle their shows.
I picked Wonderfalls, Firefly, Tru Calling, and Greg the Bunny. I've never seen Drive, The Tick, The Inside, or Kitchen Confidential, so I can't really say much about them. I did watch Point Pleasant though, but I can see why that got cancelled, I'm not too disappointed by that. If I could have only voted for one show it would definitely have been Wonderfalls though, with Tru Calling a distant second.
 
i voted for Firefly and Tru Calling, but i agree with Wicked. none of the shows seemed to have gotten a chance, especially Drive, but the only ones on that list i've seen are Firefly, Tru Calling and Point Pleasant. i'm not a huge fan of Point Pleasent, but the show had a good concept and might have been better if it had ben allowed to run a little longer. plus, i met the lead actress, Elisabeth Harnios...or however you spell it. she's lovely.

it seems to me that Fox never gives the shows a chance. if they aren't pulling the ratings Fox wants by the second or third ep, the Execs seem to just pull the plug.
 
I literally just "aquired" Point Pleasant last night. id seen most of it before but not the last few. I really like it.

I attempted Wonderfalls but only got to about episode 3. Never really got into it but I wasnt really paying much attention. I think I was put off by it only having about 13 episodes. Much like every other damn FOX show.
 
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Randy Giles
PP karma. :)
Wonderfalls is worth watching even as 13, because they did it with cancellation in mind. The 13 episodes form a complete arc. It's more like a mini-series. Another one that's like that is The Inside.

Another thing those two have in common is you don't really get completely connected to the characters until about the fourth or fifth episode, so an opinion based on the first 3 is incomplete. It's hard to convince people of that until they push past, and see it for themselves though.

If you were watching Drive, they appeared to be doing the same thing. That seems to be the problem with the 13 episode arc. They have to build the drama towards the conclusion at a specific point towards the end of the 13. They can't just blow your doors off early the way the can with stand alones, or a longer arc like Lost.

Another mistake people make with the Tim Minear 13, in my opinion, is they think they know the characters right off, but they don't, so they mistakenly think it's bad acting. Really though it's the fact only the 2 dimensional surface of the characters have been revealed in the first 3 or 4 eps.

Poor Rachel Nichols got totally blazed by the critics in The Inside as a bad actress based on the first three eps, and it so wasn't her fault. She did exactly what was required of her. The whole thing of her character was we were only supposed to see the automaton shell of her at the beginning, and then build towards what was really beneath. The complete arc of The Inside 13 is the story of Rebecca Lock, and how the horror of her personal history pushes the real woman she is "inside".
 
I just couldnt get into it. Not sure why since its totally my type of thing. May give it another go soon. We'll see 🙂
 
Stuff like the character of Mahandra the bar waitress isn't dealt with in the first 3, and she becomes quite lovable. The brother, who you only get glimpses of in the first three, becomes a main character. But what makes the story is the complex dynamic between the characters, and you just don't get that from only 3 eps.
 
Fair enough 🙂 Once Im done with Point Pleasant I'll give it another go. Otherwise I guess Im as bad as Fox 😛
 
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Allycat
You should totally listen to N4H on this one. Wonderfalls is one of the best television series ever! Even to the point of (nearly) rivalling Buffy and Angel.
Drive was a moderately interesting concept, poorly done.

Tru Calling I only saw 4 episodes but it was truly truly horrid (with the exception of all the shots of Eliza running, mmm come to papa).

Point pleasant, aaah. Far too soapy and some very poor actor choices, but it had brief flashes of potential where it could have been something really really interesting. The lead actress was pretty good.

Firefly I'm 50/50 on. I can see why they would cancel it because its not the type of show that appeals to the masses, but with merchandising and dvds and snit...

I haven't seen any of the others.
 
I loved watching Tru calling and point pleasant, ok i didnt watch much of point pleasant but i still thought it was good, but still i liked watching them, i was sad when they cancelled them
 
The only two I really watched were Firefly and Drive. Firefly was pure gold that should never have been cancelled whilst Drive was a good concept with good characters that needed more time to become great.

I've seen a few episodes of tru calling but I agree with Dzhugashvili, it was awful other than the bits where Eliza ran... and bounced... which were much better.

Brimstone was another truly brilliant yet quickly cancelled Fox show.
 
I just voted! The only two shows out of those I have seen are Firefly and Tru Calling... And I never really liked Firefly... So I really dont care about that... But Tru Calling was an awesome show! I loved it to death! I was sooo mad when they cancelled it! They cancelled it right when it got interesting!!
 
Just try to watch the last episode. That might be the best one. The story was becoming complex, and layered. The supporting characters were beginning to develop, and the sub-plots were becoming interesting. Tru's adversary, Jack, was becoming one of those bad guys you love to hate. They were going more series arc, than stand-alones.

I'm not sure if it's smartening up would have made it more mainstream friendly, but I think some us could have got seriously addicted. Myself, I would love to have seen what was going to happen next.
 
I think I actually might have seen the last one, N4H, although I could be wrong. I'll check an episode guide when I get chance and see. If not then I will give it a look.

I think that they waited just that bit too long to get into the mythology of the show for me. I have no problem starting a series with standalone episodes but you need to keep throwing in the odd arc episode to keep things interesting. Jack, for example, actually was a character I saw potential in but he needed to be there a lot sooner because I know that a lot of early fans of the show had given up before he arrived and were not willing to give it another chance, hence the dismal figures that the first episode of season two delivered. Having Jack around right from the start and so straight away giving the impression of a deeper back story to the show rather than "Quantum Leap lite" might have been enough to keep it going a lot longer.
 
Was that supposed to be the last one? I actually thought another episode occured after that in the show's timeline and that they were just shown out of order, American Gothic and Firefly style.

In that case then I haven't seen the last one. I'll check it out and see what I think.
 
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Randy Giles
Fox canceled the show midway through filming, which is why that episode is last. Fox had ordered 13 episodes but halted production after 6.
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