French man loses kindergarten teaching job after getting tattoo

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Sylvain Helaine is complaining that he lost his kindergarten teaching job after getting his body, face and tongue covered in tattoos and the whites of his eyes surgically turned black. I'm not sure if I would want him teaching my three year old, either.

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Hey, at least the man doesn't have "Damaged" on his forehead. How bad can he be? 😆
 
Sylvain Helaine is complaining that he lost his kindergarten teaching job after getting his body, face and tongue covered in tattoos and the whites of his eyes surgically turned black. I'm not sure if I would want him teaching my three year old, either.

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I can't help thinking that anyone who does this to themselves has 'issues' and probably shouldn't be teaching small children.

The school would be well within their rights to dismiss him for inappropriate appearance. He's made himself look demonic and that is not acceptable around young children. He only has himself to blame.
 
Look however you want, but don’t expect it’ll be suitable for all professions. Working with kids does and should have strict rules, so yeah, I can see why he was fired.

A couple of years ago there was a debate about that here cause a guy was fired from a kindergarten because his FB profile picture showed him wearing a beanie with a dirty word on it. That’s different to me because that is something he can take off, and not something he wore to work, even if one can argue that it is in bad taste to have that as your profile pic on your private page.

But this is obviously a way he’s chosen to look, daily. Which is fine. But I wouldn’t want my child in his care.
 
I'm a 5th degree black belt with a concealed carry license and "several" quality handguns to choose from, and I wouldn't want him to get too close to me. As for my 9 year old grandson or my 16 year old granddaughter, not now, let alone back when they were just 5 years old. First impressions do count, and this guy should be smart enough to know that. He can turn his body into a billboard if he wants to, but he has to realize that most people don't want their children taught by a walking, talking billboard.
 
When you choose to have an extreme look, you also have to accept the fact that roughly 96% of regular society won't be okay with it. That's pretty much the whole point...to give everyone the finger. I'm very accepting of that, but this guy is just an idiot. What did he expect?

Honestly, you don't go that extreme (and expect to remain a Kindergarten teacher) unless you've had some kind of psychotic break. I totally would've fired him too.
 
ILLYRIAN
ILLYRIAN
He forgot to file his teeth to points. Those little details help when jumping out at children (and their parents!) from behind a corner or bush, roaring about how hungry you are, and how you hope they squeal so nice as you eat them alive.

On the plus side, I can just see that when a parent says the bogeyman (or devil, whatever) will get the child for misbehaving, the child might say, "My teacher? Naw, he's cool."

On the negative side, I wonder if they're as fast to get rid of abusive teachers as this one. If like the USA, then I'd say no.
 
At what point was he sacked because having that much tattoo work will have taken quite a while. I'm not supporting him, just asking.
One question though, it is said he is a French person yet is he a resident in France?
 
He's covered in tattoos, that could scare some kids and maybe even give them nightmares.

He needs to live with the consequences.
 
Meh...I’d let him teach with two caveats:

a) They deduct the cost of psychological support for the kids from his salary

b) There’s at least one precocious child in the class who raises his/her hand and says “Please sir, do you realise what a prat you look?” 🙄

According to the BBC, "Mr Helaine, 35, still teaches primary school children aged six and older".

More pictures and story here Paradoxically, he looks both scarier and kinda more cute.
 
He told BFM TV: "Children who see me learn tolerance of others. When they are adults, they may be less likely to be racist or homophobic, and they will not look at disabled people as if they were something from a circus."

I kind of feel like this is a stretch. He makes it sound like he is doing some kind of civil service by looking this way and working with kids, but I don't know, I don't feel like "guy choses lots of tattoos and black eyes" = kids may learn to accept everybody. I mean, "my teacher had black eyes, but he was all right, that means that homosexuality is ok with me"... does that conclusion really follow? I'm not so sure. It is a nice thought, but it is also a bit strange as race, sexual orientation, and disability are generally not choices and not really the same as this very deliberate, attention seeking, look.

I mean, kids may also have an averse reaction and think that people like him are "from a circus" because again, he has chosen to look this way. It is in a way a performance. His pictures indicates that it is a performance he enjoys.

Again, I think he can look however he wants, and teaching kids to be tolerant of people who don't look like them is always a good thing, but I think his logic is as weak as his entitlement is strong in this case.
 
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This reminds me of how males with long hair in my home town had to be tough because they were targeted as sissies otherwise, and yet many who hated long hair on guys still had posters of male country singers with long hair regardless. Like WTF
He told BFM TV: "Children who see me learn tolerance of others. When they are adults, they may be less likely to be racist or homophobic, and they will not look at disabled people as if they were something from a circus."
As you say...it's a stretch
I mean, kids may also have an averse reaction and think that people like him are "from a circus" because again, he has chosen to look this way. It is in a way a performance. His pictures indicates that it is a performance he enjoys.
Exactly...he looks like a performance artist to me and, although there's an argument to be made that gender, sexuality etc. are "performances" (looking at Judith Butler) they're performances inscribed in daily practice. This isn't...at least for most people it isn't. I think he's forcing the logic of the argument.
 
I think he raises an interesting point. Do we have to stick within rigid appearance expectations to be able to perform a task? Is a decent life lesson for kids that scary looking doesn't always mean bad and more importantly just because someone looks nice doesn't mean they are?

However he's probably over done it and dying your eyes is crazy. Why risk your sight for an image?
 
TriBel
TriBel
Yeah...it's the eyes I have a problem with.
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It's amazing how much looks matter when assessing someone's actions. Females are at bad at it as males (and replace Christian Grey with Homer Simpson in 50 Shades of Grey and it goes from erotica to crime drama). But not sure if this would work.
He told BFM TV: "Children who see me learn tolerance of others. When they are adults, they may be less likely to be racist or homophobic, and they will not look at disabled people as if they were something from a circus."

Should've known he was a member of *that* crowd. A sense of entitlement seems to be a mandatory requirement.

Young children are incredibly tolerant of others when left to their own devices so this bloke is full of it. He's got delusions of grandeur, that because of him, children learn "tolerance". The only thing he should be teaching children is how to count, how to read and write etc, not trying to indoctrinate them with his identity politics.

Children might question why someone looks different from them eg "why is he in a wheelchair?", "why is her skin that colour?" etc but that is their curiosity. They're not being racist, homophobic or any other bad thing which a certain crowd likes to pretend is happening unless *they* do something about it. It's all about a saviour complex. *That* crowd like to make up problems just so they can give themselves a pat on the back when they feel that they do something to combat the imaginary problem that they created in their minds.

I think he raises an interesting point. Do we have to stick within rigid appearance expectations to be able to perform a task? Is a decent life lesson for kids that scary looking doesn't always mean bad and more importantly just because someone looks nice doesn't mean they are?

I think he's an idiot. Something is only "scary looking" if it provokes a fear response. This can vary between individuals hence why some people like clowns and some don't. A fear response is a survival mechanism eg "fight or flight". If something is "scary looking", it's normally because it is dangerous in some way. There are exceptions to the rule on both sides, but let's not pretend every nasty looking thing is all sweetness and light beneath the exterior.

This guy is assuming that children are automatically intolerant (they're not, hate and prejudices are taught) and that it will only be because of him that these children grow up "tolerant". He's completely ignoring all the other factors in the child's life that help shape a child's personality eg parents, family, friends, even the children themselves. It seems as far as he is concerned, it is only because of him and him alone that the children will grow up into decent human beings.

How many of the children actually look at disabled people as if they were "something from a circus"? The answer is probably none, it's just him inflicting his identity politics on others and accusing innocent people of being guilty of something they're not guilty of, just so he can "save" the day.
 
I agree with what DeadlyDuo said, I think he is an idiot.
If he had thought about what he was going to do and he had just done his eyes he could have had loads of work in the horror film industry.
But saying he'd give kids a tolerance of others, really? Is he choosing to ignore the kids who be scared of him.
 
What I want to know is: What do they pay kindergarten teachers in France?

I don't see a huge problem with it. The pattern is pretty and inoffensive. I bet the kids think it's cool. Santa is way scarier.
 
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