Gellar: Why I quit

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buffy mod...don't need to do that...i can more than handle waggels queer ranting...


soulgasm-you need to to get a better veiw of things just because some of us feel differently then you dosnt mean you are any smarter or more informed then any of us infact i would say you are are less then that of which we are because you dont allow yourself the time to think of what others have said therefor leaving you with less knowledge then us

check this...i've refuted all yalls arguement about conventions with logic...if fox entertainment were in control of convention appearences...she would be at every large convention...marketing 101...get out the word about the product...even if she has control over her conventions...she could show her love for the fans and go once in a while...but she never goes...then willow says that her safety is in jeopardy...there is something called body guards...i'd take a professional body guard over any obsessive nerd...

i've refuted your arguements about her ass kicking...yall have this delirious idea that she can fight just cause she has a brown belt in tae kwan do...the way she throws a punch and more importantly throws a kick(tae kwan do is a korean discipline largely with kicks) makes me doubt she could take anyone...

i've refuted your arguements that she suffers from a typecast...yall think that this type cast has been forced on her like shakles...yet not one of you can explain her roles in scooby doo and scooby doo 2 and how those movies advance and diversify her career...she's done no dramatic roles since cruel intentions...something like 5 years ago...she dug her own typecast grave...i hope she makes better choices in film selection in the future...

then one of you say that she is cash strapped cause she doesn't have steady work...who needs steady work when your a multi-millionaire....i could live 3 lifetimes on just a million...

yall revert to saying i shouldn't be saying bad stuff because she is sarah michelle gellar...something like she made the show...If yall were reading carefully...i am simply analyzing her quotes and her background...she is a rich white person that thinks being an actress is such a hard job...she doesn't give back to the fans that support her...kinda gives me the impression that she is not who she says she is...

i speak the truth and hell yes i'm arrogant...i know my skills...most of you guys need to re-examine your skills...
 
i've refuted your arguements about her ass kicking...yall have this delirious idea that she can fight just cause she has a brown belt in tae kwan do...the way she throws a punch and more importantly throws a kick(tae kwan do is a korean discipline largely with kicks) makes me doubt she could take anyone...

You conlcude this based on what? Sarah's fighting? Where have you seen it? If it was on screen and not by stuntwoman, it was still acting, so where else have you really seen her fight?

yall revert to saying i shouldn't be saying bad stuff because she is sarah michelle gellar...something like she made the show...If yall were reading carefully...i am simply analyzing her quotes and her background...she is a rich white person that thinks being an actress is such a hard job...she doesn't give back to the fans that support her...kinda gives me the impression that she is not who she says she is...

Can't really do anything, but agree!

i speak the truth and hell yes i'm arrogant...i know my skills...most of you guys need to re-examine your skills...

Well at least you're being honest about it!
 
I think Soulgasm has to re-evaluate his skills; he has not presented one convincing argument, or analyzed a quote, he has simply presented his own opinion as fact/divine truth, which is not a debating skill.
 
As you see Soulgasm, I gotta disagree with her now.

check this...i've refuted all yalls arguement about conventions with logic...if fox entertainment were in control of convention appearences...she would be at every large convention...marketing 101...get out the word about the product...even if she has control over her conventions...she could show her love for the fans and go once in a while...but she never goes...then willow says that her safety is in jeopardy...there is something called body guards...i'd take a professional body guard over any obsessive nerd...

Seems like a bunch of good arguments!
 
See i don't believe that SMG should have to do any conventions, if Fox were in control, they could quite legitimiately not place her in conventions, because she's the star; over-exposure depreciates the value of the product perhaps more than under-exposure ever could; it keeps people guessing. SMG has has bodyguards; I think she has about 3, but the threat still looms large; any nut with a gun is no match for a bodyguard if you take your shot from a distance; I know what it's like to have a stalker and it makes everything you do feel like you're vulnerable, so why do more than you have to, just to make yourself feel more open and terrified?
 
Well I don't have the insights on this stalker and I dunno wether he was really like in a killer stalker or anything (not that you still have to be careful), so you may be right about her being cautious.

On the FOX thing, over exporsure may decrease the value of the product, nevertheless, a little more attending of conventions might give the product a more human touch to it, so that fans may feel closer related to the product.
 
Possibly, but I never had a "killer" stalker, and even so I felt scared to go out. I knew who it was, everything, but I felt completley paralysed by it; you don't someone to be sending you death threats for them to make you fear for everything.

Perhaps it would have given more of a human touch, but ultimaterly it as her right to retain, and as she works harder and longer hours being in almost every scene, personally I don't think it was unforgivable not to attend
 
Well, I guess I can't really judge the stalker thing, as I never had one.

Perhaps it would have given more of a human touch, but ultimaterly it as her right to retain, and as she works harder and longer hours being in almost every scene, personally I don't think it was unforgivable not to attend

I don't think so either, but it characterizes her persona to me.
 
I can relate to the stalker thing, it is very scary and it means that you can't relax not even in a familiar environment.

I don't see why she has to justify why she doesn't attend conventions. Yes it would be nice for the star to be there but its hardly a necessity. As for fees, I do think she could drop hers to attend but maybe its not as simple as that. Although Brad Pitt for example cut his fee considerably to appear in snatch, I know this is a movie and completely different circumstances.

Soulgasm, I'm interested by your choice of words "shes a rich white person". What has her colour got to do with anything? Are the more wealthy exempt from any life problems, that's very closed minded.
 
and willow...she has done no conventions...real hard to get over-exposed by doing NO CONVENTIONS...

Soulgasm I have edited your post for what I find offensive rascist content. If you have a problem with this contact Buffy Summers, or myself, via PM
 
i want to say sorry for being rude and buffy is right this was not the place for it

1.type cast- buffy is doing those movies to try and get rid of her type cast as soon as possible . the difference between the 2 charactors is so big that it will get rid of the typecast faster and once its gone she can start doing movies that she wants(or she may be doing them because she likes it)when she films scooby-doo she can be with freddie and that is really good since as actors they dont get to be together to much

2.sarahs stalker is not an exscuse for anything it is a valid reason

3.i never knew that you knew buffy personaly you must know her inorder to be able to judge her and tell us what kind of person she is

4.im sure that buffy does way better with marshall arts then you. the difference is you arnt ridiculed for your every move besides she does it good no-one can be right or wrong on this because it is a opinion

5.the reason i tell you to be nice has nothing to do with SMG its because your so negative about everything it would be nice if you could just chill out every once in awhile

6.tell me where these quotes are that she says all this negative stuff about herself

untill you become an extremely popular actor you have no right to dispute anything she says about how hard it is because you dont have a dame clue what its like

the mogority of her fans unfortunitly are not good fans. a nice fan wants the person to be successfull in what ever kind of roles that makes the actor happy they dont try to mold them into the charactor of their own choice or begruge them because they dont act the role they want

what does her background or origin have to do withith the tea in china

why does she have to do dramatic roles why cant she just do whatever the heck she wants

how can you have an impression of someone you dont know or have never talked to or corasponded with in your life

as for skills the thread is based on opinion not facts so tell me how does one re-examin their own opinion

why should sarah give up what small time she has to her.fans the fans are the ones who are being selfish they say they adore her but if she leaves buffy they hate her i wouldnt give up my spare time for fans like that. would you?
 
first of all...before willow raped my post....let me reitterate what my edited statement was...

white and wealth go hand in hand...this is a fact...the rich part of town in any city...is all white with token ethnicities in the middle...

people may think black people make the sports world go round...but CBS paid $7 BILLION for the right to televise the NCAA for the next 5 years...of that 7 bill....none of that money ever ends up in the hands of the players...most of which are black...people may say that they get paid by their degree...but the graduation rates are atrocious for student basket ball players...some teams graduation rate among BLACK students are 0% every year...they don't get education...they end up with none of the money they really earn for the NCAA or their Universities...then they end up with a shitty job...YOU TELL ME IF THIS IS RACIST WILLOW...This is straight facts...delete it if you like...but it just shows how CLOSE MINDED YOU ARE....


as for waggels...

1.type cast- buffy is doing those movies to try and get rid of her type cast as soon as possible . the difference between the 2 charactors is so big that it will get rid of the typecast faster and once its gone she can start doing movies that she wants(or she may be doing them because she likes it)when she films scooby-doo she can be with freddie and that is really good since as actors they dont get to be together to much

how can these roles be so different when she's up for BEST FEMALE BUTT KICKER for the Nickolodians KID choice awards??

4.im sure that buffy does way better with marshall arts then you. the difference is you arnt ridiculed for your every move besides she does it good no-one can be right or wrong on this because it is a opinion

i don't judge her fighting ability from one ep...its a cumulative observation...
and as for my fighting ability...i train hard... and i love every minute of it...

the mogority of her fans unfortunitly are not good fans

and the "magority" of her fans are regular good people...don't pull this bullshit on a Buffy FAN FORUM


why should sarah give up what small time she has to her.fans the fans are the ones who are being selfish they say they adore her but if she leaves buffy they hate her i wouldnt give up my spare time for fans like that. would you?

i haven't heard one person in this thread say they were angry that she's leaving...they all wish a great future...if you would read my posts carefully...i don't care if she leaves or not...she should've left at S5....I'm not being selfish herb...i'm just commenting on the type person she is by ANALYZING the information....herb...

i even held back my "obscenties''..just so Lesbo Willow doesn't have pretext to rape my post
 
my god you cant really believe what you said stereo typing people is only another form of racism. closed minded is when you limit yourself from information because you simply dont want to re-evalute your own insecurities.willow isnt being closed minded you are no matter what is said you charge back at it and dont give it another thought.

wether your opinion on her fighting is based on 1 ep or all .the way the fighting appears is different from one person to the next there is no right or wrong fights only what is thought of by the veiwers opinion

what does being nominated for a kids choice award got to do with the difference in the charactors of the two shows

what the heck is herb suppost to mean

why do you act like such an axx insulting people snd getting them made for stupid reasons this kind of behavior belongs on the play ground because kids act like reall aults dont
 
Apart from the bad ways of putting things, Soulgasm does have a some good points, not all though!

Type-casting ... I think Buffy and Daphne are entirly different, and the others are also very different, so doesn't seem like type-casting to me!

i don't judge her fighting ability from one ep...its a cumulative observation...

Hello! Buffy is TV, it's fictional, it's fake!!!

and the "magority" of her fans are regular good people...don't pull this bullshit on a Buffy FAN FORUM

Gotta agree, can't really say I know that many 'bad' fans, in fact none!

i even held back my "obscenties''..just so Lesbo Willow doesn't have pretext to rape my post

Grrr Arrgh! You call that leaving out obsceneties ... better take it down a notch!
 
Right I am closing this thread. I have had enough of Soulgasm's rants and blatent rascism. Oh and Soulgasm; look at OJ Simpson. Was he not minted. Was he not black. Was he not a sports player.

If anyone else wishes to discuss the statement by SMGwith regards to her quitting the show, by all means start up another thread. If you wish to start it up just to state distorted opinions presented as facts, posted rascist or other offensive material, go elsewhere.
 
good fan/bad fan- wasnt the best way to put my point. it came out wrong the way i should have put it was the majority of her fans are more concerned right know with the fact that the series is over then they are with the fact that SMG is having a difficult time right know with her career and how the end of buffy is affecting her

the fans i refer to have not always been like this and i know that they wont stay like this either its argravating though because now is when SMG needs the support of her fans the most. reading about how disapointed her fans are is hard enough for her i imagine but to read how her fans are saying that shell never make it in movies. she wont be able to step out from under the shadow of BUFFY. this must make her feel like crap

we know how much the end of the series is hurting her thats why in the interveiws she cried and i dont think they were tears of joy
 
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