How do you feel about Season 8?
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I'd say wait until the season finishes and see what people are saying. However, you must read issue 5 "The Chain". One of the best things Joss have ever written.
Buffyverse Fan
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I feel it's kind of funny that the Season is both much longer AND much shorter than a TV season. Even though it's been years long, each arc is only about one 44-minute episode of material.
I think if this was produced as a TV miniseries, and aired entirely within the same week, it would've been far better received. For instance, the much maligned Predators & Prey Arc, had it only taken an hour of our time as opposed to half a year, the departure from the Scoobies would've been far less missed.
Look at episodes like "The Zeppo," I loved it, but had I gone half a year only seeing Xander with scarce cameos from the rest of the cast, I'd have been disappointed. Even "Band Candy" or the Halloween episodes would've been painful if they took up months.
The arc itself would probably have pissed off Spuffies and general Angel fans regardless of format, timing or budget. Buffy doesn't come off looking great, but Angel comes off as pretty dumb compared to the guy who was LA's vigilante protector. And Spuffy's anticlimactic reunion didn't really live up to their last scene in the S7 finale.
I think if this was produced as a TV miniseries, and aired entirely within the same week, it would've been far better received. For instance, the much maligned Predators & Prey Arc, had it only taken an hour of our time as opposed to half a year, the departure from the Scoobies would've been far less missed.
Look at episodes like "The Zeppo," I loved it, but had I gone half a year only seeing Xander with scarce cameos from the rest of the cast, I'd have been disappointed. Even "Band Candy" or the Halloween episodes would've been painful if they took up months.
The arc itself would probably have pissed off Spuffies and general Angel fans regardless of format, timing or budget. Buffy doesn't come off looking great, but Angel comes off as pretty dumb compared to the guy who was LA's vigilante protector. And Spuffy's anticlimactic reunion didn't really live up to their last scene in the S7 finale.
I think if it was on TV it would have been much different. For example: The Long Way Home would be a whole episode. The Chain would have been longer and would have included the cast: Buffy, Xander, Willow and Dawn. The Predators & Prey Arc would have been five episodes and run longer with new scenes.
Also, Dawn's storyline would've probably be dealt with in one or two episodes.
Also, Dawn's storyline would've probably be dealt with in one or two episodes.
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GrrArghx
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BuffangelLovE
Potential
Some of the issues were good and interesting, but I'm not happy with the whole arc, at all. Angel being a higher power's b*tch.... Again? Please release him from his torment and finally make him to dust or something, but to abuse his character so continuously is not pretty. What bugs me most is that he seems to never being able to find his redemption. No matter how hard he tries. He's being fooled by faith again, and again, and again.
prophecygrrl
The girl in question
The short and sweet version of my opinion on the comics: I hate them. Haaate.
But I'll keep buying because I just have to know what happens. Even if I end up wanting to tear out my hair after each issue. No spoilers, but lemme just say thank god a certain character is back for this last arc...
But I'll keep buying because I just have to know what happens. Even if I end up wanting to tear out my hair after each issue. No spoilers, but lemme just say thank god a certain character is back for this last arc...
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Manderz
Guest
It took me till just this year to read them, at first from the looks of it, it looked really out there. Plus I don't know I like the idea of just one girl in all the world not 1800! Anyways after reading them I have grown to actually love them. Sure there are issues I don't care for as much, or certain things that bug me but that happened with the show aswell. Sure things are alot different from the show aswell but I mean that was bound to come I mean willow changed the world with her magic on the scyth, and call me crazy I kinda like the out there plots sometimes 🙂 All together I am happy to have the story continued even if in comic format and I really enjoy them.
For me it just feels unreal. Everything's bigger and ... bigger than in the TV series, e.g. you'd never have seen so many different monsters in the series as there were back in Sunnydale crater (at once). And the sex-that-can-create-a-universe. I mean, c'moon. So not right. Buffy kindof rejected Angel in Chosen and now she goes and does this? Not right!
I feel that the series ended with Chosen and I choose to ignore the comics continuing the story of Buffy and the Scoobies and all that (although, being Btvs-whore, I've read all of the comics and will continue doing so).
My point being, the series were a billion times better than the comics and I miss it so much. Oh great, now I feel a bit teary. Must go and think of happy things.
I feel that the series ended with Chosen and I choose to ignore the comics continuing the story of Buffy and the Scoobies and all that (although, being Btvs-whore, I've read all of the comics and will continue doing so).
My point being, the series were a billion times better than the comics and I miss it so much. Oh great, now I feel a bit teary. Must go and think of happy things.
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Right! Joss felt like now that it's not on TV and there is no need for a big budget, he could do whatever he felt like doing, and that was so wrong of him. It's like you said, it wasn't Buffy, it didn't feel like Buffy. That's why I don't really like it.
It actually feels like a badly-written fanfic. Plus it annoys me that I'm often unable to look at the pages and say "That's Buffy, right there, that's Buffy". Most of time I have to look and concentrate really hard to understand who is who (well, except Xander, he looks hot with his eye-patch). I want my caring and special and interesting Buffy back. I don't want all the gods from the Earth and a dog with wings. I want my simple vampires and stake to the heart killing. And some Spike-Buffy action.
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Same for me - Season 8 has been a huge disappointment - and that is when I am in a good mood.
SailorSarah
Spuffy Love
I like Season 8 better than I thought I would, but of course it's not as good as the actual show. Things are a bit weird, and I have been disappointed by recent events. I definitely wasn't fond of the Twilight arc.
Pryce
Townie
I find that in alot of buffys seasons,they typically take a while to get going. Not in terms of the episodes so much being bad,but more in terms of the seasons becoming full pieces as they went on and less self contained. Kinda slow moving. Season 7,Season 6 and season 5 fall into it. All of them with a memorable first episode then a kind of period of slow building.
But season 8 completely subverted that,I'd argue that with the exception of season 2,You had probably the best begining of any of the buffy seasons. From the long way home to time of your life it kept up the pace well. Everything that I heard about that had sounded bad like satsu and buffys storyline,even ended up well done. It gave birth to truthfully some of my favorite moments of the buffy universe. Commander Xander,Warrens reintroduction in which you see hes even more angry than he was before,Warren and amys relationship,Giles and faith as basically the avengers and Dracula saving the day.
But most importantly,to me,for the first time since season 6(which was the first time since the high school years)It FELT like buffy to me. And they masterfully weaved in everything from the previous seasons that worked.
Then...It went kinda downhill. I was patient. Predators and prey wasnt that bad,I enjoyed it for what it was. Harmony was hilarious but something was off..it felt lazy almost. then you have the retreat storyline which...eeeh. I loved oz's first reintroduction,his low key"Huh" and everything but then the story sort of forgot him. One of honestly my biggest buffy related disapointments.
But I still had interest based off of the whos twilight saga..Then well the revelation of twilight was both shocking and the resulting storyline felt like a character assassination and months later with the reintroduction of spike i've just felt kinda disapointed. I think they had such a strong begining that they must of ran out of ideas. But to be fair,I dont know if I could of done it better. I just feel slightly disapointed.
and by the way,I might be the only person,but i liked dawn as a midget and then as a giant. Its probably the only time ive ever liked dawn.
But season 8 completely subverted that,I'd argue that with the exception of season 2,You had probably the best begining of any of the buffy seasons. From the long way home to time of your life it kept up the pace well. Everything that I heard about that had sounded bad like satsu and buffys storyline,even ended up well done. It gave birth to truthfully some of my favorite moments of the buffy universe. Commander Xander,Warrens reintroduction in which you see hes even more angry than he was before,Warren and amys relationship,Giles and faith as basically the avengers and Dracula saving the day.
But most importantly,to me,for the first time since season 6(which was the first time since the high school years)It FELT like buffy to me. And they masterfully weaved in everything from the previous seasons that worked.
Then...It went kinda downhill. I was patient. Predators and prey wasnt that bad,I enjoyed it for what it was. Harmony was hilarious but something was off..it felt lazy almost. then you have the retreat storyline which...eeeh. I loved oz's first reintroduction,his low key"Huh" and everything but then the story sort of forgot him. One of honestly my biggest buffy related disapointments.
But I still had interest based off of the whos twilight saga..Then well the revelation of twilight was both shocking and the resulting storyline felt like a character assassination and months later with the reintroduction of spike i've just felt kinda disapointed. I think they had such a strong begining that they must of ran out of ideas. But to be fair,I dont know if I could of done it better. I just feel slightly disapointed.
and by the way,I might be the only person,but i liked dawn as a midget and then as a giant. Its probably the only time ive ever liked dawn.
The season hasn't been a complete waste to me as there were some great moments with Faith and the interaction between Buffy, Willow and Xander was closer to the earlier seasons. I was dissapointed with the Twilight reveal and subsequent story development.
I have an unexplainable soft spot for Harmony; so I was hoping to see her like Spike was in seasons 5 and 6. A soulless demon struggling with right and wrong. The thing that really took me out of the story was the Dander relationship. I watch season 5 with Xander and Anya babysitting a then fourteen year old Dawn and feel very uncomfortable.
Even taking into account the "characters" relatively close age (dismissing the fact that Dawn wasn't born.) In their memories Xander was fifteen when he met a then nine year old Dawn. I just don't see how anyone who was involved with the show could make a romantic relationship out of what was a sibling like one.
The thing about Angel's story that I always loved was the slow growth he was starting to show in realizing that destiny is just what the powers and the senior partners have planned for us. To see him as an agent of the staus quo of "Prophecies rule supreme" rather than a champion for change cheapened all the time he spent in L.A. I could deal with the Buffy/Angel/Spike triangle if they'd just resolve it already.
Making her go back and forth and implying forces beyond their control determining her love life is infuriating. They know how deeply invested we are in these relationships and therefore they use it as a way to get us to buy a comic which is a pale substitute for the shows that meant so much to us for eight years. No matter what happens; the only thing I hope for at this point is that they give Spike his own ongoing series and carry on from what IDW started.
I have an unexplainable soft spot for Harmony; so I was hoping to see her like Spike was in seasons 5 and 6. A soulless demon struggling with right and wrong. The thing that really took me out of the story was the Dander relationship. I watch season 5 with Xander and Anya babysitting a then fourteen year old Dawn and feel very uncomfortable.
Even taking into account the "characters" relatively close age (dismissing the fact that Dawn wasn't born.) In their memories Xander was fifteen when he met a then nine year old Dawn. I just don't see how anyone who was involved with the show could make a romantic relationship out of what was a sibling like one.
The thing about Angel's story that I always loved was the slow growth he was starting to show in realizing that destiny is just what the powers and the senior partners have planned for us. To see him as an agent of the staus quo of "Prophecies rule supreme" rather than a champion for change cheapened all the time he spent in L.A. I could deal with the Buffy/Angel/Spike triangle if they'd just resolve it already.
Making her go back and forth and implying forces beyond their control determining her love life is infuriating. They know how deeply invested we are in these relationships and therefore they use it as a way to get us to buy a comic which is a pale substitute for the shows that meant so much to us for eight years. No matter what happens; the only thing I hope for at this point is that they give Spike his own ongoing series and carry on from what IDW started.
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Spikefan31
Effulgent
After reading about #39, I do not like season 8 at all, or Angel for that matter. Why, oh, why did they butcher his character? He used to be cool!
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Granted, I havent read everything because it got a bit too... anyway.. The Chain was the best thing about the season I came across.