I Need Help Picking An Angel Clip For a Presentation

I hope your presentation goes well!

It looks like you already picked your clip. I don't want to confuse matters more, but I don't think that's the clip I'd pick. It's too mainstream. Doyle is the anti-hero who, torn between his dark side and his light side, redeems the dark by using it for the light in a selfless sacrifice. That's the classic redemption formula that's as old and as mainstream as any self-sacrificing mythical creature out there. I think you can make a case for the clip as being fairly representative of the themes and characters portrayed on the show as a whole, and Angel surely is a cult show. I think you'll do well if you stick with your idea.

If I had to give the presentation, though, I'd pick the one in which Angel leaves the lawyers to die at the hands of his vampire mother and daughter. For me, that's the ultimate "cult" moment of the early seasons. Mainstream heroes don't do that! But in this show, Angel, who knows better than anyone of what atrocities these two are capable, allows and encourages them to do what they do best. He orchestrates and assists in slaughter, even after the lawyers ask for his help. Plus, the family and incestuous undertones of his relationships with Darla and Dru add an interesting element to the mix. Darla made him, he made Dru. Then, he killed Darla (with a phallic object) and Dru remade her. I'm sure there's a textbook full of Freudian thought to play with there in addition to the fact that, on this show, the hero is as fundamentally bad and depraved as any of the villains (but that he usually struggles against it).
 
its not about what makes it different from mainstream, though. because we are discussing if mainstream shows can be cult... like american idol, or lost... that there are possibilities where in they are not directly conflicted, but there is a gray area.

It;s more about picking a scene that makes it cult as in, what drives a certain audience to it and what keeps others away (whether a mainstream audience or not). I think the "hero" scene really captures it.

Though im not discounting that scene entirely, it is really intriguing and since i have more time now before my presentation im really going to consider weighing the two of them.

Edit: oh, and i can't include the part with doyle actually being filmed because it would go over my 5 minute limit.
 
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