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What do you think about slayers?Aren't they cool?Here's the thread where we discuss all things slayer.Who is your fav slayer from the show?And who is ur fav slayer from the buffy books, nd comics?
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My favorite Slayer is easily Buffy.
To me, shes just the best. Shes had to deal with so much stuff and give up things that I don't think any of the other Slayers we've known have had too.
Plus, she could kick all there butts IMO!
To me, shes just the best. Shes had to deal with so much stuff and give up things that I don't think any of the other Slayers we've known have had too.
Plus, she could kick all there butts IMO!
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My favourite is Fray without a doubt. Her character got more interesting with each episode. By the end I really felt for her. I wish Joss would write the next series, already...
I have a question about the Slayers from the novels. Can you really take them seriously? Joss has nothing to do with them, so they're not really Whedonverse slayers. Might as well include fanfic slayers, don't you think?
Wasn't there a member here who used to write fanfics where he was the slayer? He could vote for himself. 🙂
I have a question about the Slayers from the novels. Can you really take them seriously? Joss has nothing to do with them, so they're not really Whedonverse slayers. Might as well include fanfic slayers, don't you think?
Wasn't there a member here who used to write fanfics where he was the slayer? He could vote for himself. 🙂
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I liked Buffy, and strangely Kennedy. She fit what I thought a slayer should be. She had the mission in mind and was very focuses. Unlike Kendra, Kennedy was more humanized. I know a lot of people don't like her character but I think she will make a very effective slayer.
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Faith and Buffy are the best slayers.
Buffy-Because she has lasted 7 years, must longer then most layers probably. Although she has died 2 times, but she is still going strong!
Faith-Because she was good, then evil, then good again. She just totaly rocks. And she has lasted 5 years, without dieing. She doing good. Hehe.
Buffy-Because she has lasted 7 years, must longer then most layers probably. Although she has died 2 times, but she is still going strong!
Faith-Because she was good, then evil, then good again. She just totaly rocks. And she has lasted 5 years, without dieing. She doing good. Hehe.
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Nicole said:
Yes that's what it means.
http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmtv/features/firefly/josswhedon.asp
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nerd4hire said:
Well actually, Caridad did die.They just didn't show it on tv.I counted, observed and relooked over the last episode.and my count is 8 slayers survived, including Shannon, and Injured Girl.
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XxSlayerxX said:
Weren't there a bunch of girls injured in End of Days. The girl who played Caridad was in End of Days, but not in Chosen. How do we know Caridad died? She could have been among the injured, and Buffy could have sent them out of town for all we know.
Caridad seemed all right when they get back to Summers Central Command, but there is this from earlier:
I'm really bad at telling who exactly is who among the SITs. The injured girl who Anya is tending to in End of Days - is that Caridad? I don't think so, but I can't tell for sure.
The Oriental girl flying through the air in the final battle of Chosen - is that Chao Anne. The oriental girl who gets bit by the Ubie in the final battle - is that Chao Anne? Is Chao Anne the injured girl Vi is tending to on the school bus?
I just thought of something else. Buffy gives the SITs the choice of coming to the school or not. Even if Caridad wasn't injured she may have booted it out of town. All we know for sure about Caridad is she didn't appear to be in the final battle. She'd still be a slayer wherever she was, wouldn't she?
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They showed girls all over the world becoming slayers, not just those who ventured into the hellmouth. If Caridad had indeed booted it out of town, she would still be imbued with the power of the slayer.
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nerd4hire said:
Oh My Goddess!Let me explain the whole story to you.Caridad did not leave town, from Buffy orders.Buffy didn't make those orders.She just asked if anyone wanted to fight with her, and half of the potentials came, including Caridad.Injured Girl, is the name used by Joss, to name the injured potential that appeared in a few episodes.It's just a nickname for her, because they didn't name her.And Chao Ahn, isn't that girl.I read an on set summary, by an actor who played a ubervamp.The asian girl, you see who jumps high, and dusts the ubervamp, is not Injured Girl, or Chao Ahn.The actor who played a ubervamp, explained everything.This was not anyone you thought it was.It was one of the extras.The girl being bitten by a ubervamp, was another extra.These are different people.Caridad HAD appeared in the last episode.She was ot shown battling the vamps, because they blurred it out.The only girls, who had no stunt double, was the actresses who played Kennedy, and Shannon.Unfortunatley, they didn't show a close up on the battle.The girl bitten by the vamp, was an extra that first appeared, on one of the last episodes.Last of all, Caridad did not leave town.The one anya was taking care of, that was Injured Girl.The experts and crew of Buffy had stated that Chao Ahn was killed.You could also tell.You should tape the episodes like I do.I have knowledge of the slayers who survived.You can too, by taping it, pausing it to see who's who.Another thing I have to say, is....Vi was tending Rona!lol.The girl Xander is tending, was Injured Girl.The girl who played Caridad on Chosen, (who is a filipino actress!go flips!i'm filipino, & canadian nd im proud of dania ramirez's work.dania is the girl who played caridad.)was the same actress who played caridad on all episodes.I think that you are getting confused about the characters.If you have anymore questions, please feel free to ask, and i'll be glad to help you.You should look more closely, to make sure your facts are right.If you do not agree with me, start researching the internet, and you will.Websites to chk:google, tvtome, buffy sites, and buffyworld.com
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XxSlayerxX said:
No problem. I'll ask you OK? 🙂
First of all as far as researching the internet goes, I'm finding there's a lot of conflicting information. I think the problem is some of the info comes from the books. My opinion of the books are they're commercialized fanfic. Can you convince me I'm wrong.
One I've always wondered about is the idea Caridad is Phillippino. Where does that one come from?
Can you offer me some links to some of this information you have? I'd really like to read the one by the ubervamp actor.
BTW where does this nugget come from:
Also can you give me a link to the site that shows who had stunt doubles?
Can you point out Shannon to me in Chosen. I can't find her. I'm curious why the actress who plays Shannon has a credit from Chosen at IMDB.com, yet the actress who plays Caridad doesn't.
Oh, and I almost forgot, here's the most important one. Where does it say Caridad died? Is that just from counting slayers, because I'm not sure that's 100% reliable as proof.
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This is according to http://www.restlessbtvs.com which has proven very reliable at many times in locating certain buffy related info:
And on http://www.imdb.com, the actress who plays Caridad was last credited in the role in the Episode "End of Days". She is not a member of the cast of "Chosen."
And on http://www.imdb.com, the actress who plays Caridad was last credited in the role in the Episode "End of Days". She is not a member of the cast of "Chosen."
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nerd4hire said:
1.Books like Tales of the slayer vol. 1, 2 , 3 nd the upcoming 4th vol are basically just fanfic from the writers.It's their imagination of the buffyverse.Only books from like Joss whedon, jane espenson, and joss' crew are part of the universe.Comics like tales of slayer, and fray are part of the buffyverse.the books like, book of fours, is based on buffy, the tv show.the writers wrote their own STORIES on the based on the show, which is no way related to joss.
i had a thread about this, and someone answer it to me.i believe the thread is in the whedonverse.
2.If you search "Dania Ramirez, in sites such as tvtome, it will say that she is born in the philipines.many fans argued about this, whether she was filipino or some european culture.the answer is, what does she look like.she is filipino, and that is not a fake accent.that is a filipino accent.
3.I'm not sure if the ubervamp one, still exists, but you should look in google, buffy.nu, and spoilerslayer.I'm not sure if buffy.nu or spoilerslayer deletes their posts ounce they get too old.If your searching on google, type words such as: Btvs 7x22 "Chosen"...And stuff like that.My advice to you is go to google, or spoilerslayer.I believe that buffy.nu has already erased it.you could also look in slayage.com, or whedonesque.com-i am a user in this site.if i find it, i will post it onto this.you know what, try looking in my old buffy site: http://lil_dude1307.tripod.com.I think i have one of the versions there, because ther are like three diff versions.some of dem have less writing, some with more.
4.It is not a nugget, whatever that is.It is what happened in the show.Buffy, told the potentials her plan, she asked them what if you could have the power...bla bla bla.and then she's like are you ready to bes strong.Not all the slayers came, some stayed, because they didn't want to go.At the end of the episode, Giles is like:there many more slayers in sunnydale, so there's not use looking there.search in goolge, in fansites, and they will tell you, if you don't agree with me on this.
5.There was no site on the stunt doubles.Remember i told you about the on set report, from the uber vamp actor?he said that all the potentials, buffy, nd faith, had stunt doubles.only kennedy, nd shannon didn't.unfortunatley, you couldnt see shannon fighting.you could only see a blurr of girls fighting.good thing those two slayers survived at the end.don't you agree with me?
6.I tape buffy all the time, cause i wanna know who is who, and who is where.so i paused it on the scene where the potentials, & the gang come to skool, for the fight.there was shannon walking witht the potentials.in the scene where buffy is talking about her plan to make potentials into slayers, shannon is there sitting.unfortunatley, you can't see her fighting, because they blurred the girls fighting, because, lol, everyone else were stunt women.except for kennedy, and shannon, according to the uber vamp actor.you could see her, as she nd four potentials run to exit the skool.one potential, who is unknown, picks up andrew, who is sitting on the ground.the scene goes to the 3 potentials:vi, rona, nd injured girl, who are called by giles.they all get to the bus.8 slayers survived, including kennedy.at the end of the episode, when the gang is looking at what remains of sunnydale, a huge land, of nothing.you could see shannon, and injured girl, standing together.you could see them, in the scene where xander, nd andrew are talking.
7.I have taped the last episode, looked over, paused on the surviving slayers.=and i see that caridad didn't survive.look in tvtome, in the buffy page, and they show that caridad died.
if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.i will answer them.
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XxSlayerxX said:
That's true. If I remember correctly, it was me who replied.
Dania Ramirez was born in the Phillipines. It doesn't follow from this that Caridad was Phillipino. James Marsters is not English. Spike and William are. What's her name who plays Kendra is not from the Caribean. See where I'm going?
I think you're correct in mentioning TVTome as the source for the rumour Caridad is Phillipino though. Here's what they say:
That's TVTome's opinion, but it is only that - an opinion.
I vaguely remember seeing a link to that story. I think you may be on to something when you mention Whedonesque. I think I may have seen it there. I didn't bother to read the story. I didn't know he was going to tell us good stuff like where exactly Chao-Ahn was in Chosen. I'll look for the link to that story when I get time.
Yes, I also saw Chosen. I remember the scene. I don't remember them saying some girls refused. I specifically don't remember anyone saying 1/2 the girls refused as I believe you stated earlier. I agree though: It's entirely possible some girls did refuse. Still If there's any evidence to verify that as fact, I'd like to know about it.
Also I know you didn't mean to say Giles said there were more slayers in Sunnydale. There was no Sunnydale at that point. You meant other girls out there - in the world, right? Just trying to keep things accurate.
I'll explain why that was interesting to me. I got the impression from what you said earlier that Dania Ramirez had been assigned a stunt double. If that was a fact it would mean Joss had intended Caridad to appear in Chosen. I see now that isn't what you meant. So I can stand by the information that appears in IMDB.com. and also TVTome (although I'm not sure it matters). Caridad was not in Chosen.
Actually it isn't that Caridad didn't survive. It's that Caridad wasn't in Chosen. Where was she? Who knows.
As far as TVTome goes if everything they said was true Spike would be a male slayer, and we'd be watching Ripper right now.
Here's what they say in the episode guide though:
Actually I agree with TVTome here. That's the way I saw it too, although I'm prepared to admit Shannon may also have survived. Shannon was in Chosen. If you say you saw her get off the bus I believe you (although I will of course double-check, because I want to be sure in my own mind).
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You are right, there are just some facts that are wrong in tvtome.Also in IMDB, because i'm an editor for tvtome.I taped an awards show, called:The 2004 Much Music Video Awards.I wrote all the stars that appeared, when i taped it.Then I went on the site:muchmusic.com, and got more stars that appeared.But when I went on IMDB, it had people who weren't there.Shannon, was in Chosen, and she did survive, according to the ubervamp actor.I taped the last episode, and I paused it on the scene where the gang enters the school, and I see Shannon walking, twith the other potentials.At the scene, where everyone gets off the bus, I see Shannon, with Injured Girl, who is always mistaken for Chao Ahn, who is like paler that her, has long hair, doesn't have a pony tail...The ubervamp, noted that Chao Ahn had died.The girl bitten by the ubervamp, is a chinese girl, that first appeared on th episode where Chloe, who is filipino, dies.The fans mistaken Injured Girl, for Chao Ahn, even thou the ubervamp stated that was not her, and that she hadn't survived.Tvtome, is not the most reliable source.You must check other sites first, to see if tvtome is right.
Giles said:There WERE more slayers in sunnydale. (The ones who stayed behind.They didn't themselves just say i'm not going.half of them came, if you pause it on the scene wher ethey arrive in skool, only a few are there.) So there, no use looking there.(Because the slayers that stayed behind, got killed by the big explosion that was caused by Spike's amulet.)
The reason I said refused, is because Buffy asked them if they wanted to come, were they ready to be strong?Again, If you pause it on the scene where the potentials arrive to the school, only a few of them are there.I know what you mean about how James, and Bianca aren't really English, or Jamaican.But the accent that Caridad, has is filipino, meaning she is filipino.And the skin tone, is filipino.And she has died hair.For more questions, please feel free to ask.I will answer them all.
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In this pic, it is a pic of some of the slayers.Vi, Injured Girl (Who is mistaken for Chao Ahn.Look at the big difference, peopl!), Shannon, and the red headed girl.if you pause it on the bus scene, at the other end, is Injured Girl, and Shannon.Then they put it on the scene where Xander nd Andrew talk.
Here is a link to the pic in buffyworld.com:
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen0721.php
In this pic, you see half of the potentials, who agreed with Buffy, and came.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen0967.php
In this pic, beside Dawn, at the far end you can see Shannon.In the pic I sent before this, you can see Shannon, too but only a little bit.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen0968.php
In this pic, it's kinda dark.But in tv, you can see it more clearly.Only a few potentials came, by the number of hands.Even thou you can't see all.Only 8 potentials survive at the end.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1119.php
In these two links, are pics of the chinese, girl who first appeared on the ep where chloe kills herself.She is getting killed by a ubervamp, in this pic.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1451.php
Here's another pic of her getting killed.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1452.php
In this pic, is a pic of Faith's stunt double, who's face is blurred out for a reason.To show that it's not another person.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1497.php
In these pics, the ubervamp actor stated that this was one of the extras.in the first pic, she dusts a vamp.in the second, & third, is where she is behind buffy and another asian girl.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1498.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1187.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1188.php
In these pics, are 3 slayers, that survived, run out.They are kinda blurred out.So 7 scythe activated slayers survived.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1550.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1551.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1552.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1553.php
In this pic, one of the 3 slayers, pics andrew up.You can see her hand there.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1558.php
Now in these pics, is the other three slayers that survived.They went ahead.These are not the same ones earlier, because if they were, they would be with Andrew.These slayers in this pic is:Vi, Rona, and Injured Girl-Not Chao Ahn
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1560.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1563.php
In these pics, are Dawn, & Xander.They are kinda blurry.They do not show Kennedy, and Willow exit, even thou they have already.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1567.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1568.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1569.php
In this pic, Xander is still looking for Anya, but she is lying dead.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1570.php
In this pic, Dawn nd Xander exit.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1573.php
In this pic Faith is calling buffy, but she won't listen, becuz she's with Spike.Faith goes ahead.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1583.php
In this pic, Vi is tending Rona.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1664.php
In this pic, Xander is tending Injured Girl.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1668.php
In this pic, Shannon is getting off the bus.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1728.php
In these pics, you can see Shannon, and Injured Girl talking.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1750.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1752.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1753.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1754.php
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1770.php
In these pics, you see Andrew talking to the other surviving slayers.Unfortunatley they blurr it out.I'm guessing that that's Kennedy, because she's wearing the same clothes, including a green top.So that's Kennedy.
http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/vidcaps/chosen/chosen1821.php
So 7 scythe activated slayers survived.The 3 who ran away from the building, and one of the three picked up andrew.I believe one of those three was Shannob.The 3 who Giles called to go to the bus:Vi, Rona, and Injured Girl.Kennedy also survived, who came with Willow, but they don't have a pic of it here.
If you read the bottom, of the transcript, it says that Giles said the mall, not slayers.http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/transcripts/144_tran.php
GILES
(paces behind them) Yes, because the mall was actually in Sunnydale, so there's no hope of going there tomorrow.
DAWN
We destroyed the mall? I fought on the wrong side.
XANDER
All those shops gone. The Gap, Starbucks, Toys "R" Us. Who will remember all those landmarks unless we tell the world about them?