Official Discussion of 7.22 "Chosen" (UPN-US) #2

Originally posted by vorindà«
i cryd so badly in "chosen" and i think is not fear that they ended buffy. i think we should do somthing about it. what do you think?
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yeah.......... we should all protest outside of Whedons, Gellar's and ME's homes and offices!!!!!!

It's very sad. I'm still upset about it being over. I keep thinking about having to clear my tuesday nights to watch it and then it hits me! Whaaaa!!
 
i know this is gonna sound stupid but did it look like buffy stank at the end to anyone else? i mean when you look at her she looks like she smelled bad..........
 
rene :LOl well she was all dirty after the fighting, so i guess you could imagine her as smelly! 🙂
 
I loved "chosen" but Anya's death was the saddest thing I've ever seen. Not so much her dying as she's lived for a long time, but thinking of Xander's life without Anya! I mean, I know they were broken up, but they sooooo got back together in the last episode. After Xander said "party in my eye socket..." Anya was rubbing his hair very affectionately. Then there was the whole "come on, let's go and assemble the cannon fodder" "that's not what we're calling them, sweetie" thing. He called her sweetie, that's gotta mean something!!! And when she was sleeping during dungeons and dragons and Xander was rubbing her hair (once again) very affectionately!! not to mention the whole "that's my girl" scene. I think that, if she hadn't died, there would have been wedding bells in the air...

The rest of the episode was absolutely brilliant. I watched it with three of my friends, then we watched it again. By that time it was about one o'clock at night (they air it at about ten forty here in Australia) and we had school the next day. SO we got up early to watch it again!!! hheeeheheh we are quite obsessed. My favourite part would have to have been the scene with Xander, Willow, Giles and Buffy - the reference to the last scene in "the harvest". we had just watched "welcome to the hellmouth/the harvest" before "chosen" to get us in the spirit so that was especially good. Joss wrote the slanguage as only he can and there were twists and turns throughout.

Go Joss, seven years and he's still got the buffynes!!!!!
 
:: tu :: Well,I watched it again for the first time in months and just wallowed in the luxuriant brilliance of the whole episode!!It's just such a brillantly written thing,so much laughing to be had on further viewings,at the time I first watched it I was too choked up to laugh that much,but now..........My favourite parts are Spike's punchbag with the cutest drawing of Angel on the front...... 😀 Giles' rant at the board game "I used to be a respected watcher,now I'm a wounded dwarf with all the mystical ability of a doilly(n/v)....." and Faith and Wood's hilarious 'performance' about their 'performance'........So many laughs in such a short space of time,I was blown away by the change of moods as well,so well handled,a few plotholes for sure but such a brilliant attempt.......😀
 
Like DXY i just saw it again 2! I still don't think that it was the best end to the show, (I think there should have been 2hrs) but it was pretty good. It made us all laugh and cry, (sometimes at the same timelol) Loved Spike and the "Angel" punching bag lol and the best scene was at the end w/ Spike and Buffy "I love you" "No, You don't, but thx for saying it" I think that is my favorite part of like the whole show!lol
 
I've been reading over this thread, and no one has taken this into consideration. Remember Bring On The Night and ShowTime? ONE, let's count that again, ONE Turak-hon vampire kicked buffy's a$$. So, can someone explain to me how like 30 slayers were able to take on hundreds of vampires until Spike's necklace worked? I mean, the battle should have been over at the part...

Vi: "These guys are dust."

It also seemed that the Turak's changed every episode. I guess they kept getting new make up artists or something... Who knows... Also, Buffy jumped off the roof of the bus. Did anyone else notice that she left the scythe up there?

Later that day:

Buffy: "Has anyone scene the scythe?"

Earlier that day:

::As Principal Wood drives, the scythe falls off and some lazy street bum takes it.::

Also, Wood and Giles, Andrew and Anya, Dawn and Xander, taking on all those vampires at once? Wouldn't happen...
 
Hi! I'm new. I have been looking for a good Buffy board. This one was recommended by someone at the Charmed-Boards.


I just saw this ep!( thank you f/x.)

I have really been having a problem with the whole season. It just seemed like there was no happiness to find anywhere. Again, Buffy's friends were turning against her(always makes me mad when they do that). James Marsters was playing Spike brillantly, but still everyone just wanted to kill him off.(take that Giles, he saved the whole world.) In the beginning of the whole Spike/Buffy thing, I was kind of Yeech! but now...whoa baby bring it on. And it didn't seem like they were going to bring anything on.
But the interaction the last couple of eps with Buffy & Spike were the best things the whole season.(IMO) Still really not my favorite season, but I will most likely get the DVDs when they come out. Just to watch the tender Spike/Buffy love scenes. And of course to watch Angel act like a 12 year old.


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hmm...

huh...that would be interesting. Isn't Buffy supposed to appear sumtime on Angel soon? Maybe in an epi or so?
 
Originally posted by leoangel
Hi! I'm new. I have been looking for a good Buffy board.

I have really been having a problem with the whole season. It just seemed like there was no happiness to find anywhere. Again, Buffy's friends were turning against her(always makes me mad when they do that). James Marsters was playing Spike brillantly, but still everyone just wanted to kill him off.(take that Giles, he saved the whole world.) In the beginning of the whole Spike/Buffy thing, I was kind of Yeech! but now...whoa baby bring it on. And it didn't seem like they were going to bring anything on.
But the interaction the last couple of eps with Buffy & Spike were the best things the whole season.(IMO) Still really not my favorite season, but I will most likely get the DVDs when they come out. Just to watch the tender Spike/Buffy love scenes. And of course to watch Angel act like a 12 year old.
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Welcome!! Yes, this is a great board. There is always somebody to argue with! 🙂

I agree with all of your points.
The best parts of the season: the Spuffy scenes... especially Touched and to see Angel act like an immature, jealous boy.
 
The Spuffy scenes bored me to death and both Angel and Spike acted like immature jelous boys.

I loved The First when it started mocking Buffy during the battle and Buffy started kicking some Urber ass.
 
I cried for fifteen minutes straight after this ep. Not happy grief release tears. terrible, terrible pain that has not healed over the months. I gotta face it.

I absolutley loved BTVS especially season 5, 6, and 7 right up to the last ep and never thought I would ever be writing these words. But I think there might be something cruel about Joss and his worldview.

What does the success of a whole season matter if you rip someone heart out on purpose and with a smile on your face? He admitted in an interview that he loved killin' folks.

(aka Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown) Those terrible 8 words Spike said--all love is different from each other. No one loves two people in the same way--but to dangle that hope and drop kick Spike once again--petty and...a lie, a metaphysical lie.

She doesn't have to love Spike in the same way as Angel--but it can still be reciprocated. There is no such thing as 'one true love.' Only willingness and the unwilling. If you doubt me--lets hook up again in ten years. You don't have to be ancient to have life experiance--to love and love again. This is lifes truth. And shame on BTVS after those wonderful years to bowing to simplistic fairy tale nonsense that helps no one understand life any better.

And, to have these warriors, these survivors stand at the edge of the crater that contained the dead bodies of thier friends and comrades and smile and make souless quips about missing stores was obsene.

I've spent months trying to let it go, trying to heal, I went on the internet for the first time ever to see what other people were feeling and found many, many who agree, there is not ONE person I know that enjoyed that ending.

So--i was letting it go, trying to give 'Angel' a chance to prove me wrong, and then a few weeks ago i was in New York and accidently found myself at the edge of 'the site' And this automatic viseral quaking of grief began somewhere deep indside me. Not in my mind, or heart even, but just because I am a human being, and to be human puts one in empathy with other humans. This is what it is.

You can not stand at the edge of a crater that contains the dust of fellows and smile and joke.

It. Could. Not. Happen.

How could Joss be ignorant of this?
I'm trying hard to forgive him, I really am--but what was he thinking?

It scares me that he could be so shallow.

And now my voice that use to sing his praises has bcome the disembler. I have to say these things--because someone should. It should be on record. I am really very supportive of my friends who try to create somehting in this world and my fellow writers--but misuse of power, using storytelling to hurt people is...in a catagory close to...well...evil.

I still hope that is was just a terrible ignornant miscalculation--but how can he live so far away from the heart to write that?

sorry for the downer vibe, but I really feel I had to say this.

the disembler.
 
It was really great. Loved the part where Faith showed sympathy for Buffy as she took the scythe into her own hands and fought with it...I knew that this is how this series is gonna end.

But thats it. No more Buffy. It's done. Sure, maybe they'll ressurect it in the future, but it wont be the same. No Sarah Michelle Gellar, no British in real life-All-American, Socal Spike. Its done forever. And I thought Season 5 was a bummer on the last show.

The thing that has given me the most annoyance of all, is seeing some of you people act like...OH CHOSEN WAS SUCH A BAD EPI TO END IT. How bout you write an ending...call up the cast, and make another EPI. You really cant do anything about it. It was a great way to end it...and if you look at it in a perspective that counters all negativity up in these boards, its gives us peace. We know Buffy lives...we know she'll be happy...and we can still watch Spike on Angel...haha.

Ooo!!! Question, will Buffy guest star on Angel everr?
 
Actually Tracker,

I agree. I believe absolutely in putting my money where my mouth is. If one rants one must provide a feast too.

Sometime in August I thought it was only fair to stop crying and tackle the problem myself--I wrote a fanfic. My first and it's gotten a very kind response, mostly from people hurting like me. It's been nominated aleady in two different Award thingys. I won't mention names--not here to self promote only to say I agree. Put up or shut up. I also submitted an Angel spec to a competion in LA--for the same reason.

If you're gonna criticise you gotta put your own heart on the line too.

I also have a play that's doing well so I understand how hard it is to be a storyteller and the blows you have to take sometimes from dissension--but even with all these healing modalities I've done and will do--this pain caused by that ep is still here. And I had to say something.

I really am sorry, but I slept so good last night having gotten that out and I really thank this forum for the opportunity to do it.

the disembler.
 
Oo...maybe I can read this fanfic?

Either way, Buffy ended. Sure, we'll have times when we say...WHY? THAT WAS SO DUMB AND WRONG IN THE END...but Joss has given us 7 great years of BTVS, and I hate when we are soo stubborn and "pickie"...to me its like we're throwing it in his face. ooo, Special Analogie! ::Mom you've always made the best pie in the world!! I dont know about this last one...::throws it in her face::
 
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i just saw this episode tonight and i cried, they played back to back epps on FX. :: red :: i think i'll cry everytime i see it, that one and "end of days" was also on.
 
God it sure was one hell of an episode, i haven't watched in months, I should watch it again, my favorite part of course was when Willow did her spell and she turned all white, and when Spike destroyed all those vamps and died... it was kinda sad
 
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