Official Discussion of "Villains"

WOW! This ep was really interesting! The special effects were so
awesome! 😀 I thought that it was so cool how Willow took out the bullet from Buffy's chest with magic. Gosh, just to think that Buffy almost died ::dead:: again! It's like Buffy has 9 lives or something!

I swear this ep made me cry ::crying:: so much. I cried a lot when
Buffy saw Tara's body and then saw Dawn sitting in the corner. How sad ::bsad:: was that? I'm so mad that Tara's dead ::dead::
I'm gonna miss her so much! What's up with Anya? She's not in the eps that much. I wonder if she's leaving the show? ???

I wish that Spike had more scenes in the ep then just one! The scene was really interesting though! I swear, it was weird seeing him not wearing his duster. When he wears it, he looks so bad ass! When he doesn't wear it, he just looks different. I'm just so used to seeing him wearing it all the time. That duster is a major part of him. I felt so bad for Spike because the demon ::noangel1
was making fun of him and putting him down. The demon said
' You're a pathetic excuse for a demon.' Then Spike said ' Oh yeah? I'll give you pathetic.' It's like you can see that he was so hurt. You know? He never really did say if he wanted his chip out or not. All Spike :: vampire said was that he wanted to be what he was before. That could mean something totally different then wanting his chip taken out. I believe that Spike will be redeemed and that he will be good. I know that he wants to change esp. for Buffy. He really wants to prove how much he loves her.

OK. The part where Willow :: redhair tore off Warren's skin was nasty ::disturb: I can't blame her for killing him though. He did deserve it. When Willow said ' one down ' you know that she's gonna go after Jonathan and Andrew! Oh man are they in trouble!
This ep was great. I can't wait to see the 2 hr season finale next week! 🙂

SPIKE :: vampire FAN and :: blond : Buffy/Spike :: dracula SHIPPER FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
 
Thankfully there was hardly any Spike scenes in that episode. I'm starting to dislike him now, i just feel there is nothing left for his character now.

Poor Dawn finding out about Tara like that, she really has been through a lot recently...and then being dumped with a demon for a babysitter!! This was really Willow's episode, she has come into her own and is going to be a force to be recokned with.

From what i hear they have cut the Warren death scene, as i was honestly expecting something better...bye Warren::crying:: i'll miss you!! Poor delousional Andrew still thinking that Warren would come back for him! I hope Jonathan gets out though, he was just too easily led!!
 
That episode was really good, Willow had a huge role and the way she exits at the end was great!!!
Yup indeed its Buh bye Warren, i'm pretty sure Jonathan will live as he helped Buffy before hand!
*Sigh* I hope Tara will return..... i kinda like her character now! (Typical!!)
 
Ok, so much to say about this great eppy!
Can i just say, im in love with that ugly demon "lets rent videos!" LMAO - whats his name?
Poor dawnie "i couldnt leave her alone" - how sad and upsetting! Michelle was brill, as usual!
Ditto to spike duster comment! Its such a big part of him! But he still looked damn sexy! 😉
I believe warren got what he deserved, but i dont think jonathan and andrew deserve death. Torture in jail, yes - death, no. Poor naive andrew.
I loved "Bored Now" so much! And willow kicked ass! I like her evil - but just for a bit. Then she just has to go back.
In the showdown, i dont think either will die and the buffy will have to defeat willow, in a sense. I think (ive not been spoiled, just opinion) that buffy will 'defeat' her emotionally, not physically. I think she will use her words.
Fab eppy, cant wait for finale!!!

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Spike Lover - your demon is called Clem and he is great. It seems that despite the failings of the recent plots, the writers can still come up with great sub-characters to fill the gaps.

As for the episode well it was pretty standard fair and not particularly interesting. Everything about Willow's spells weaving continuity disasters all over the place, Buffy and Xander seeming not particularly bothered by the death of a close friend, misuse of another solid sub-character (Rack - incidentally the same actor played a convict in Voyager not so long ago and he wasn't evil which just goes to show some actors can play both!) and generally pointless special effects. Not to mention the absolute travesty that will be Spike becoming evil again - not only has he been bled dry already (figuratively speaking of course) but this is the justification for him to stick around another season? Please...

Season 6 needs wrapping up soon. All the sooner I can forget about it.

Oh and if they kill Jonathon, a Buffy institution, well...let's just try not to think about that possibility...
 
I think that the demon will trick Spike and when he transforms him into what he was before he'll turn him into the human Spike, but who knows? It would be interesting, but I'd prefer Big Bad Spike more.

I still have yet to seen this episode since where I live, all the Buffy gets canceled!
 
Poor you, Pezz!

Grounded, i disagree with most of what you have said but you can see my opinions of the eppy above, and im sure i have discussed season 6 with you before! 😉

I ::heart:: Clem! "Lets rent videos!" LMAO - still cracking me up, so sweet! Lol.

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Pezz, that's exactly what I thought when Spike said he wanted to be his "former self again". I was like - he's going to turn him back in to the human he was before.

Great ep. I do think that in many ways Buffy is a bit of a hypocrit and has that 'holier than thou' attitude. But I still love her! Willow - amazing job by Alyson H. Her power is just ... wow! Can't wait for the next two eps.

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Originally posted by Grounded
So what exactly do you disagree about? I already conceded that Clem is great!

Lol, i know about Clem - he rocks!
I disagreed with your overall criticism of the eppy, and with it being "average" "standard" or "fair"; about willow and her magic with just pointless special effects; with the whole season being bad; the eppy "uninteresting" and i just generally disagreed with you whole analysis of the whole episode and season! Basically, the complete opposites of everything you said, is my opinion! Lol
Except the hilarious sweet Clem, of course!

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If you are suggesting that i havent seen the fabulous seasons 2 nad 3, for example, so i dont know a brilliant episode when i see one, then thats not true. I started watching about season 5, but have seen basically all episodes from season 2 to 6 (not most of season 1), and i agree that season 6 hasnt been the best (i belive the best were 2 and 3), but i, personally, like the reason drama and still think buffy is as good as it was. Lets just agree to disagree, ok? 🙂
And back to the episode . . .

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i have been watching since season1 and don't think this season is as bad as some make out .sure its not been the most uplifting and has focused on emotions more than actions.but there are only so many monster stories you can tell.we don't want the writers rehashing stories from old episodes.i don't see where else they could of taken the characters while maintaining interest in them.
as for this episode i really don't know where they're going to go with willow now.she's killed a human.a big no-no in the buffy-verse.the only non copout solutions i can see for willow are death,next seasons bigbad or prison(police or watchers council).anything else could contradict or belittle past stories,particularly faith's story.
oh and sky's cuts were soooooo annoying!
 
What cuts was there?
As far as willows "no-no" - shes ok as long as doesnt go and kill someone 'innocent' as warren was bad, evil or not. Sure its not allowed, but i think everyone could get over it. If she killed anyone else (innocent), then i agree, i wouldnt know where they could go. I think its been very entertaining.
 
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