Passion

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What an excellent episode of Buffy!

I'm rewatching it now, and haven't seen it for awhile, so I'm going to post my thoughts while I'm watching it.

- That opening scene, of Angel in Buffy's room is both horrible and frustrating. Horrible because it actually really disturbs me. The thought of someone being in my room while I sleep has haunted me to this day because of that scene. I find it frustrating that he doesn't just slit her throat though.

- Yay. Cordelia agrees with me. Joss sure knows how to fix his flaws. By making a character in the show notice the problem I can now giggle at the problem, both getting rid of the horrible feeling I had, and reminding me how clever this show is.

- Man Xander is annoying in this scene. Cordelia might be a little forthright, but at least her prime target here is to help out. Xander, on the hand, is completely annoying and useless.

- Speaking of which, how awesome is season 2 Cordelia. It has been so long since watching early seasons of Buffy, and I've been watching so much Angel that I've forgotten how kick-arse Cordelia was. I actually find her funny (funnier than Xander that's for sure) and she has a certain charisma (no pun intended) that makes me believe she could get away with being the most popular girl in school while being a scooby.

- Tehehe, how funny is the 'self defence' flyer pinned up behind Giles's head while Giles and Buffy discuss Angel and his torture techniques? Makes a lot of sense considering what is being discussed.

- Okay, Cordelia, you're actually in the right here. Why are Buffy, Giles and Xander brushing off your concern that Angel will break into your car and kill you? Considering what happens to Jenny, a very interesting discussion indeed. Perhaps if Buffy started acting on protecting her friends and family sooner?

- As if Jenny would be allowed to palm off her class to a student! Bahaha, absolutely ridiculous!

- That often used quote by Joyce 'i've read all the parenting books' seems more and more like she was actually making fun of herself for reading them, and less like she takes them seriously every time I watch this episode.

- Okay, so he's been in Willow's room and killed her fish. Seriously, can someone please start making some decent decisions? How about you all stay at Buffy's place? I mean Giles is on the school board, can't he send a note home regarding a last minute holiday or something and they can all go stay in Giles's living room? If that was me there is no way I would be in my room all alone.

- Yes! A fanged four (hrm... three) scene. Excellent stuff as always. First of all, it's been awhile since I watched anything from season 2 and can I just say - no frickin wonder I had a mad crush on Spike. He is so damn sexy in this episode, those cheekbones, and those piercing eyes. Wow. And how awesome is Angelus? And wow, those chairs in the factory are incredible. Are they Charles Rennie Mackintosh? They look like they could be.

- Cute scene with Jenny at the magic shop. Is this the same magic shop? It doesn't look like it, but I suppose renovations can be drastic.

- Wow, Jenny is kinda hot. To bad she spent most her time wearing crappy hippy clothes.

- Hehe, Ira Rosenbergs only daughter nailed crosses to her wall. Makes me giggle.

- Oh poo, I know what's coming. Why did I put this episode on? It's way to depressing for 2am insomnia.

- Why doesn't Jenny just smash the door in? If that was me I would be placing my ugly chunky 90's shoes through the glass on that door to the outside and climbing through.

- I can't really talk to much more about this episode, it's so horrible! I'm finding it really difficult to watch and I haven't even got to the part where Giles finds her. It really is an excellent episode. It really toys with my emotions.
 
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zobothehobo
She has a funny charisma. hahaha
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Hale Caesar
Karma because Cordelia is better than Xander
What an excellent review! I agree on all points, except for Jenny wearing ugly hippy clothes. I loved her clothes....Well, in this episode. Some of her outfits were...questionable lol.
I want to watch season two now, haha. Though, in all honesty, I have SUCH trouble watching Passion. It marks the death of my favourite character, in such a gut wrenching way. It's all incredibly upsetting, and I've cried everytime I've watched this episode.
 
Apparently, Joss wanted to kill of Oz in this episode instead of Jenny. I wonder how things would have changed if that happened.
 
Hero: Yep, that is very true. He was supposed to kill off Oz, and Jenny was supposed to die in an earlier episode. I believe he says this on the Passion special featurette on the DVDs.
 
Oh I love this review. Do more Do more!!

When Giles finds her.... sigh... you are not from the UK but he does his Nescafe face. It makes it all the sadder.

Jesus that season was so awesome. I love S6 and always defend it but nothing compares to S2 really. It was indeed an emotional roller-coaster.
 
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sisterofmercy
Haha yeah he does!
ashsummers
ashsummers
So funny! It is his Nescafe face :)
Season 2 is definitely an emotional roller coaster! I've decided I'm going to do a rewatch starting with Surprise after catching Passion last night. It's such a heart breaking season and I'm not even a bangel!
 
ashsummers
ashsummers
It really as wrought with emotion regardless of shipping preferences!
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TeamSunnydale
it's possibly my favourite season!
This Episode Is Definitely One Of My Favorites From Season 2 🙂
 
It always bugs me that when Buffy and Willow are having their "pyjama party sleepover with weapons thing", they have a string of garlics on the bedframe. Have they ever made any reference before (or after) that vampires don't like garlic?
 
caitaintdead
caitaintdead
Not as far as I can remember no. It definitely seems strange! maybe in Season 1 early days?
It always bugs me that when Buffy and Willow are having their "pyjama party sleepover with weapons thing", they have a string of garlics on the bedframe. Have they ever made any reference before (or after) that vampires don't like garlic?

They mention it in passing. Not only can Buffy be seen with garlic in her weapons chest in Welcome To The Hellmouth, but there is a conversation between Buffy and Xander while in the tunnels, in 'The Harvest,' that is as follows: Xander: Okay, so, crosses, garlic, stake through the heart.
Buffy: That'll get it done.
 
This is one of my favorites episodes...It's dark, creepy, ironic, hard to watch. This is so not a soft episode, it gets to your guts and doesn't leave. The phone call of Giles to the girls while Angelus watches them...I have no words.
 
They mention it in passing. Not only can Buffy be seen with garlic in her weapons chest in Welcome To The Hellmouth, but there is a conversation between Buffy and Xander while in the tunnels, in 'The Harvest,' that is as follows: Xander: Okay, so, crosses, garlic, stake through the heart.
Buffy: That'll get it done.

Ooh, I never picked up on that before. I now totally forgive Buffy and Willow's use of garlic in this episode. 🙂
 
Another great episode, it has more impact that most movies for me.

When I watch it now I turn away when Jenny dies, I don't need to see that again, but the rest is impossible to take your eyes off of. I watch this one with a box of tissues, makes me realize how much of a wimp I am sometimes.😀
 
Passion is definitely one of my favourite episodes in this season. As sad as Jenny's death was, it was very well done. I think they captured the whole serial killer/psychopath thing very well.
 
I think it's the contrasts in the episode that get to me. Angel's idea of beautiful in the way he arranges Jenny's body on Giles bed and Giles horror as he discovers her. Then Angel enjoying the effect the news has as he watches Willow and Buffy through the window.

I don't know who to feel worse for, the ones who've lost someone they care about or Angel who's lost his ability to care.
 
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soulunsung
Um, can we say Angelus instead of Angel, because this is really bugging me. Angelus without a soul did this, not Angel with a soul. They are two v. different character's, distinctly so.
I just want to point out that this episode made me cry upon my rewatch.

But once I was done with it, this bit of dialogue stuck out to me as just wrong.

Jenny: Angel... How did you get in here?

Angelus: I was invited. The sign in front of the school... 'Formatia trans sicere educatorum.'

Jenny: 'Enter all ye who seek knowledge.'

Angelus: What can I say? I'm a knowledge seeker.
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He doesn't need an invitation. It's a public place. Vamps have been coming in and out of the school for dozens of episodes by this point.

HOWEVER this little inconsistency/pointless time wasting dialogue is contrasted by possibly the best lines ever uttered by a Buffy villain.

Angelus: It hurts sometimes more than we can bear. If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace.
But we would be hollow.

Empty rooms, shuttered and dank...

Without passion, we'd be truly dead.
 
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soulunsung
Oh yes, this. :)
PassionBecoming
PassionBecoming
The school thing always annoyed me. Totally agree with the quote - I have that whole quote on my FB page.
I love that quote so much I got it inked!

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(taken straight after it was done, I really need to get a more recent photo!)

Oh my god so sorry about the size!
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
Oh, awesome!
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Goldilocks
Let me say: YOU ROCK!
ashsummers
ashsummers
Aw wow!!!! Love it
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Holy crap that is amazing!
I've always loved this episode for its poetic writing, beautiful acting from Anthony Head, and the slow burning tension from the beginning of the episode, but I HATE that Jenny died. I was always and will continue to be a huge G/J fan and this episode crushed me. Giles is definitely my favorite character and I thought the banter between him and Jenny was fantastic. But even deeper, they both had these past lives that they couldn't ever really reconcile with, but could accept about each other; it made them such a great, adult couple for the Buffyverse. But I hate to admit that her dieing while trying to help en-soul Angel again was poetic justice.

Gah, so sad, and yet, so good.

Also:

- Wow, Jenny is kinda hot. To bad she spent most her time wearing crappy hippy clothes.

Heh.
 
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