Season 7: The Weaker Season?

You're right, S7 surely needed more Core 4 interaction. Maybe a rewrite to Empty Places, or actually showing the aftermath. We only saw Buffy making peace with Xander, but not the other characters, which sucks.
 
Personally, I think Season 7 was a weak Season of the show, but only because we were so used to getting structured storylines that were going to be coming out over time, we were almost 'disorientated' because so much was happening at one time. Every episode you'd have something new happen, you'd have something new take place & at points, it was hard to keep track, especially the first time you're watching through. It wasn't bad television, it was poorly delivered good television.
 
To me a weak seasons shows no growth, no change etc. Season 7 provided us with a lot.
Dawn grew up, she became a woman, she was strong and much more intelligent. She proved there was more to her than a green ball of light turned annoying teen. She was a junior watcher, helping out.
Buffy, she grew also. She learned what it meant to truly lead. She found strength in herself she didn't know was there, I don't believe anyways. When she stood up to the first at the very end, told the first to get out of her face. It was like she finally got it. Finally knew who she was.
Willow. Finally figured out how to harness her power from the light instead of the darkness.
Giles, realized he was needed, but not the way he thought anymore. He was able to grow too, let go a little.
Xander. Figured out what his gift was. Became a man, saved the world with one eye, lol.
Spike, savior of the world. He found his calling.
Faith. She was a lot wiser in this season. She was healing and she was on the side of good.

There's always more, but it's season 7 that so much growth and change happened. For this reason I cannot call this the weaker season. I think it's a very strong, positive season.
 
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I agree with you, S7 was exceptional for Faith and Dawn's characters.
To me a weak seasons shows no growth, no change etc. Season 7 provided us with a lot.
Dawn grew up, she became a woman, she was strong and much more intelligent. She proved there was more to her than a green ball of light turned annoying teen. She was a junior watcher, helping out.
Buffy, she grew also. She learned what it meant to truly lead. She found strength in herself she didn't know was there, I don't believe anyways. When she stood up to the first at the very end, told the first to get out of her face. It was like she finally got it. Finally knew who she was.
Willow. Finally figured out how to harness her power from the light instead of the darkness.
Giles, realized he was needed, but not the way he thought anymore. He was able to grow too, let go a little.
Xander. Figured out what his gift was. Became a man, saved the world with one eye, lol.
Spike, savior of the world. He found his calling.
Faith. She was a lot wiser in this season. She was healing and she was on the side of good.

There's always more, but it's season 7 that so much growth and change happened. For this reason I cannot call this the weaker season. I think it's a very strong, positive season.

You make a good point about growth, but I think alot of people (including myself) regard it as the weaker season because we knew it was the last. They were going to set out to give it everything they had & I think alot of things got lost in the shuffle. In terms of character development, sure there was alot, but I think personally, in terms of story & structure, it was lacking.
 
To me a weak seasons shows no growth, no change etc. Season 7 provided us with a lot.
Dawn grew up, she became a woman, she was strong and much more intelligent. She proved there was more to her than a green ball of light turned annoying teen. She was a junior watcher, helping out.
Buffy, she grew also. She learned what it meant to truly lead. She found strength in herself she didn't know was there, I don't believe anyways. When she stood up to the first at the very end, told the first to get out of her face. It was like she finally got it. Finally knew who she was.
Willow. Finally figured out how to harness her power from the light instead of the darkness.
Giles, realized he was needed, but not the way he thought anymore. He was able to grow too, let go a little.
Xander. Figured out what his gift was. Became a man, saved the world with one eye, lol.
Spike, savior of the world. He found his calling.
Faith. She was a lot wiser in this season. She was healing and she was on the side of good.

There's always more, but it's season 7 that so much growth and change happened. For this reason I cannot call this the weaker season. I think it's a very strong, positive season.

I disagree with the growth. Xander knew this already. Willow did her "growth" in one episode: the last. But, she shouldn't be able to do as much magic as she wants with no consequences. That's stupid. Spike got better, yes. Faith did that in Angel Season 4. Giles didn't do that, imo. He just came back, people thought he was the First, he tried to kill Spike, and he thought Buffy's insane and idiotic plan was a good one. Agreeing about Dawn and Buffy, though.
 
I don't necessarily consider it the "weakest" season...I'd probably put it on the same standing as season 5, but I do think it was a case of too many stories and not enough time.
 
The seventh season is in no way a weak season, or the weakest season of the show. It is, in fact, my favorite, tied with the sixth season.

I thought the season was exciting and cool, the Potentials were a very necessary addition to the series and I did not find them annoying at all, they all acted exactly how I'd expect people to act in their situation. Faith's return was amazing. Anya and Andrew got to shine. There were tons of references to the beginning of the series. The new high school rocked. The First was the ultimate villain.

But overall I thought it was an excellently structured season, it felt very solid and planned out, and to me was easily the most engaging.

And I'm also very happy that Willow moved on from Tara.
 
Hafta say i love season seven too. I don't think its weak at all. Sure, there is a lot going on but it is the one season in which i never skip any episodes and i don't mind the altered interactions between the 'core 4'. I always feel that this is a natural consequence of the events of the six previous seasons.
 
Yes! Thank you! In reality a group of friends will never ALWAYS stay super close, and the point the Scoobies are at in season 7 makes perfect sense with what they've dealt with. And it's not like they're no longer friends, it's just different.
 
For me, S7 is weak because there's so much going on, so many rushed storylines, favorite characters like Xander and Willow pushed to the background (especially in the last four episodes), so many plot holes.

I think the season would have been great if it was made into two seasons so storylines won't be jammed in together.
 
Just watching Season 7 now, still don't like it as much as previous ones.
Don't want Buffy to end? Maybe that's the reason. 🙂
Though I feel like all these Potentials together in one place, Everyone's a Slayer Now were bit of too much for single season and whole story...
 
There IS too much going on in 7, no doubt about it. Robin Wood was pretty superfluous and probably one thread too many. I think the problem with Willow and Kennedy's relationship is down to too much going on, too. It's building up quite nicely by Killer In Me, but they barely get any screen time together after that (and then it's usually physical). We don't get any time to see them actually getting close and really falling in love. It's just "they're a couple now" and we're just supposed to accept it without really SEEING it.
There's also way too much Spike, and he's becoming a bit annoying by this stage too (though thankfully he was on top form again in season 5 of Angel).
After her bizarre behaviour in season 6, it's rather unfortunate that season 7 also sees Buffy basically losing it as well (albeit in a different way and for different reasons). She's pretty hard to like after season 5, it has to be said.


All this said, though, and while it is probably my least favourite season, it's still brilliant, way above the first 3 seasons of Angel and practically everything else on tv. 😉
 
Perhaps the Wood storyline was a little unnecessarily. But I can't believe people are complaining that too much happened, in most shows the problem is too little happens, lol.

Better than the first three seasons of Angel...? One, definitely. But Angel seasons 2-5 totally pwned the entirety of Buffy. 😀

(I cannot believe I used the word pwned.)
 
On my list of all-time favorite shows, Angel is #2. Buffy is either #3 or #4. 🙂 One of the only spin-offs to surpass its parent series for muah (except for L&O: SVU).
 
Too little happening and too much happening are both bad in my book. A show must be balanced. Too little happening will make us bored. Too much happening will make us confused and bored.

That's what I felt anyway.
 
Well I havent read the whole thread (can ya blame me, its 3 pages long and I have the attention span of fly) but I just wanted to put my two cents worth in.
To me season 7 seemed like a comic put on to screen. I havent read any of the season 8 comics and have never really been a fan of comics (note attention span! so much easier to watch than read) The first time I watched season 7 it really felt like a comic to me? hard to explain. I did enjoy it but it was really different to the other seasons. Unfortunatly I also felt it was rushed. I agree with previous posts about "lessons" being the best season opener, I even got my step mum to watch it (she had a mag infront of her face but I knew she was peeking coz she'll usually leave the room if Im watching something scary in her opinion!)
Conversations with dead people and same time, same place were two of the scariest episodes!
And who can fault "chosen" with that music going its impossible not to enjoy it!
 
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