Season 7: The Weaker Season?

And I'm still just ticked off that Tara never made it to S7!
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Why? Tara wasn't needed. I liked her, but she was not missed. At least by me. It was time for Willow to move on.
 
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Season 7,while intense, wasn't my favorite, nor do I think it was the strongest season. To me, it seemed the overall writing dropped. Here's what I wrote last night about the finale after I finished the season:

"Chosen" Good title, first of all...Just kinda melodramatic. Good action and such, but poor writing and I think the writers/Joss W. were afraid to have anything sad happen to anchor the finale. Sure Spike's sacrafice was sad. But it would have been more sad and better (in my opinion) to have a lead die. Granted I am one who does that in her stories...but if Buffy/Willow/Xandar/Giles/even Dawn had died, then it would have been sad enough to be memorable. Like the Alias series finale...whcih I won't mention in case you watch it!!

Season 7 sure did pull me in, and kept me watching, but the last couple of episodes kind of fell, incomparison to other episodes that is. I still enjoyed it and I don't think it was the weakest. But in my opinion I don't think it was the strongest either.
 
even though it wasn't my favourite, i still loved season 7. yeah, it seemed like something was missing and the writing wasn't as sharp but it kept me watching. the last few episodes were a disappointment, i'm not sure how i wanted/expected it to end but it wasn't as good as it could have been. i know it was all about buffy and the new slayers but xander and willow barely seemed part of it all... and as much as i love spike, his screen time could have been cut. i did like andrew and thought he had some ace lines - i actually really enjoyed his episode. as for the ending, i think anya dying was a bit lame - it would have had more impact if someone like dawn had died. but thats just me...
 
I know I enjoyed S7 a lot. For me, though, the high point of the series was around S4-S6. S7 was slower, somehow. Which isn't bad - it definitely needed careful pacing and the season itself was obviously all dovetailing to a single story about closing the Hellmouth (but oops, there's another in Cleveland).

But there was a lot of material to cover, and I think I felt at some point that Spike's story was moving just a little too slowly, and possessing too much of the overall season. Maybe it was a bit too finessed. But after he attacked Buffy in S6, it's hard to say how long his transformation, and Buffy's figuring out how to trust him again, should have taken. So... I guess the pacing was alright in that aspect, but a bit of the other could have been done with a shade more haste, I guess.

S7 was definitely the darker season. Someday when I have all the time in the world on my hands, I want to go through all the seasons and tally up how many scenes were in sunlight and how many were in darkness. Coz I think S7 took place at night, moreso than the other seasons. I'm sure that had an effect on my perception of the story itself being more dark and more deliberately paced. Plus, what with the power going out in the city near the end of the season, there just wasn't much light going on after that. And again, I'm sure that was a device to move the story forward, to the big final battle which took place, surely not by accident, in the daytime. And it's kind of nice that Buffy is a creature of the dark, and the final scene is of her in the sunlight.

There were a couple of eps in S7 that just didn't do it for me. But I think overall the season was good, but as a send-off for Buffy, for me, it still left a feeling of incompleteness... like there was a bit more story left that should be told. But I'm sure Joss & Co. had their limits with budget, timing, and the schedules of the cast and such. You do what you can, and try to get the best you can with what you have. I'm glad there's a S8, though, even if it's in comics. 🙂
 
The ending is growing on me, but still I don't know...the ending wasn't as strong like the Season 5 finale was. I have now watched the finale of S7 about 3 times on dvd, but still think that Season 5 is the better ending. It was sad to see though some peole get hurt or killed. Notably Anya. That sword through the body thing was shocking. But I did love how Andrew told Xander that she died protecting him (or something like that).
 
The 7th season was defiantely a weak one.

It seemed like the creators were a bit stuck in some point. They had left us with a lot of questions from season 6, and they felt tehy needed to answer them. but they needed a new story, and a new big bad. So they made up "the potentials", and then chose to kill over half of them. They gave us some great episodes(everybody has their bright moments) and a creepy priest (who could have pulled the role as the big bad without the first), and at last: They gave us Ubervamps. Grey-ish vamps who lived under the school, making smoars over bonfires. (no sing-a-longs!)

I think they should have stopped. The 7th season wasn't too good, and imo they could easily have left us at the season 6 finale. It would give us things to think about. Spike having a soul...Wonder how it would be, Willow's future after nearly destroying the world, Dawn and Buffy leaving to explore the world. It could have left us with a good finale, with lots of stuff to speculate about, but they chose to make season 7...not the brightest season.
 
i always think of it as the weakest.. and then it comes to watching it and i love it all... weird... maybe it hasnt been in my conciousness as long as the rest to fully appreciate it yet
 
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i always think of it as the weakest.. and then it comes to watching it and i love it all... weird... maybe it hasnt been in my conciousness as long as the rest to fully appreciate it yet
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omg that happened to me! When i was re-watching the episodes 2 months ago, when I started season 7 I thought "Ahh i'm already in season 07, which it's not a very good season" but then I loved it! And i still love it now. So I don't think it was the weaker season, OR a weak season. It's not my favourite, it's not BUT I do think it's a great season. 😉
 
Actually, I have always considered S1-S2 as the weakest period. It's only natural, since the series was just getting started. Granted, S2 had some memorable episodes. But for me, the overall story arc had some major weaknesses and disappointments. S1 struck me as a mere ghost of what was to come.
 
I have read a lot lot of negative opinions about season 7, but I think it was one of my favorites. People complained about how much Buffy had changed, and Willow etc. and how they weren't the same people, but I loved how they grew and evolved and used their life experiences to become the people they were at the end of the series. Realistically, they had to have changed. It would have been lame if they were the same kids they were in HS. I thought the first was very cool as the big bad.....also because it had very briefly made an appearance in (I want to say season 2? 3??? crap, I cannot believe I don't know this) Although I didn't necessarily like the specific characters, I loved the idea of the potentials. And then there's the lovely Willow. I was so afraid they were going to make her not use magic at all. They used just the right amount though. It wasn't a huge storyarc but definitely played a pivotal role. Between the Turokan (sp?) and Caleb and the First, I thought the big bad crew was right on the money.
 
I really liked season 7. There were so many eps I loved: Lies my parents told me, touched, same place, same time... and a lot more. So I don't think it was a weaker season 🙂
 
Season seven had a lot to offer but there was one thing that particularly pissed me off. How could they turn on Buffy! Traitors! Buffy was a tad emotionally unstable... but she had good reason to be. How could they turn their backs on her?
 
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Let me go out on a limb and say once again - i BLOODY LOVE SEASON 7.

Every season has flaws. I mean like big massive drive a tractor trailer through your living room flaws.

Anyway, Rant on.

Uncle Rory
PS. Maybe I'm just mentally challenged but I think it is in bad taste to state in the first post of a thread (not this one in particular) that this post is for people who blah, blah blah (translate to - only for people who agree with my opinion)
Just my 2 cents.
 
Most of season 7 episodes were great.
Big mistake in not really doing justice to the removal of Spikes chip (don't agree he had too much airtime as integral to the ending)
Caleb, for me personally, was an excellent adversary PURE EVIL!
Potentials were not fully character developed, although only through lack of screen time.
All in all, as enjoyable and addictive as the rest
 
I agree with what alot of you are saying. I lvoed first half! but omg all them potentials gave me a headache! I disliked them alot! I think that the final season lost its touch..It could have been better. But the first half was brilliant! some of it was my fave but them blasted potentials!
 
Season 7 had a lot of great episodes. I think that Chosen was an apt way to end the series, Storyteller was just amazing on its own, Conversations with Dead People was another classic, End of Days and Dirty Girls were other standouts. But for a series closer, I really wanted more from it. I thought some of the episodes especially in the middle of the season were extraordinarily weak. It's like the writers felt really ambitious in the beginning and then that tapered on and off until we got a couple of good episodes down the wire to cap off what was an amazing series. I just felt like it could have been more epic.

The worst part of the season is how muddled it was. There were sooooo many storylines and they weren't all addressed properly. There was obviously Buffy, the new school, Spike, big evil, Willow, Andrew, Wood, potentials, slayer line...They were all being shoved at your face with the same intensity and it was all too much. They were making you feel like this story was so important yet the handling of the story was often weak. Obviously not everything was like that. I thought Andrews plotline was very well delivered.

The Spike thing was on and off. The mother thing just seem to have come out of nowhere. The earlier stages of the Spike dilemma were really quite awesome. But mom trigger was awkward. It was good that it tied him to Wood, but with Spike having killed Wood's slayer mom, that really wasn't necessary. I was really hoping that the trigger would have more to do with him acquiring a soul, which is what I thought it was originally. Maybe it could have been like a side-effect of getting a soul via magics instead of a curse was that you would go a little crazy and therefore easily manipulated. I just got really confused about how he was affected by that song. It made him murder people? Why did this come up now? And why was he a little crazy in the beginning? I just feel like this whole thing was a little ridiculous to be honest.

The Willow thing, I thought, was really awful. The ending was great, but everything til then was kinda hokey. Ugh. Don't even get me started on Kennedy.

As great as Chosen was, I have a hard time believing that those girls could have so easily dealt with the uber vamps just because they had been upgraded with slayer powers. Buffy needed so much just to do away with the first one and all of a sudden little Amanda is throwing elbows and demolishing them left and right.
 
Seven is one of my favorite seasons. The only thing I didn't care for was Principal Wood. It was like, stfu you little bitch! Now is not the time to get emo over some chick who didn't give a rat's ass about you. The First and it's army is ready to swallow your little town and all you care about is Mommy slayer.

He got a little better though. Only a little.

Other than that.. I love season 7. I still think season one was the weakest. One and four.
 
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