Still interpret it differently. They all evoked (more or less explicitly) the pregnancy as a consequence of the party in 9#01.
Evoke and more-or less are the keywords again. The way I see it the party is there exactly to 'evoke' suspicion and cause more trouble - in this case the entire abortion twist rests on Buffy's guilt about the party.
I don't believe they answered to all their interviews while thinking obstinately that they had to evoke the party while talking about the pregnancy for us to speculate about the wrong thing.
See above - the supposed premise of blackout sex is the basis for abortion story.
Sorry to come back to that again, since it seems we are interpreting it differently, but in the quote I posted from Chambliss, what I understand from it, is that Buffy getting pregnant was something they were building towards from the ... beginning of S9.
The first mention of Nikki Wood happened in issue 35 of S8. Then I saw her hinted at many times at many different interviews. And I repeat again - Nikki was pregnant 4.5 months before she found out about it - right before her Cruciamentum.
And Scott Allie said : "She got black-out drunk in #1, and it turns out there are significant consequences". If the 'significant consequences' aren't the pregnancy, it would make no sense.
And he never said explicitly that she got pregnant there - but as of today the 'significant consequences' are her decision to have an abortion .
Side note : I just read one of the Scott Allie interviews again, and : "Andrew is going to come back into focus pretty soon and have a significant role to play", he's maybe the father
Oh comon, Buffy is wearing two T-shirts with designs in #5 : one is a robot , the other wings of an angel. I am not saying anything - but seems like new incarnation of a Buffy-bot is in the works. And we saw Andrew working on a mechanical arm in #3.
I know. I said it before on another topic, but my way of seeing it :
1) 62 days passed during the Spike one-shot
2) Buffy worked for four months in that cofee shop
Which means that between 4 and 6 months passed between 8#39 an 8#40.
4 months +/- 1 week , she does not have to be precise about counting months.
It probably took time for Buffy to move on San Fransisco and for her to find a job (I would say one month), which brings me to at least 5 months since the Space-frake at this point. After that, between 8#40 and 9#01, she had to find a new place and new roomates, which probably took a while too. 6 months (at least) seems a good estimation to me
Lets just put it that all of the above could have took much less time and leave it at the 4.5 months still being a possibility. And there is the Slayer constitution to take into account too. If Joss wants it to be Angels baby - they will shrug off 4-5 months and not showing like they always do. Buffy already looks more rounded and endowed in S9 than she ever was in S8.
Huh ? What Chambliss said about "unrequited love" was based from Spike's POV of their relationship
LOL. No, Chambliss said exactly that 'unrequited love is more fun to write' - which means that is what he as a writer was told to write about/ and is writing about. There is no from whose PoV clause here . AC is writing unrequited love in this story and that's all he had to say.
The story itself contradicts the fact that his love for her is unrequited from Buffy's POV.
No it does not. She mocks and ignored Spike most of the arc, then rushes to him when she needs a dark place again - and even though she suspects they might have had sex ( without her even remembering), she never asks him 'was it with you' or 'how do you feel'? - but just requests his support with abortion decision - and that right at the moment when he is about to say something. No consideration for his feelings again - she plain picks up her use and abuse pattern with him and runs with it.
Buffy was ready to ask Spike to "run away" with her and her baby
Yup, because he is the 'support center' for now. With Giles gone and Willow absent , and Dawn /Xander all into themselves. Spike is once again the guy whose opinion, feelings or maybe existence of personal life are not important enough for her - but he is convenient to ask drop everything and go provide for her and somebody else baby. Truly, the more Whedon's characters change the more they stay the same
Look, according to Allie, we will know the identity of the father pretty soon, so we'll see at this moment. But if Angel really was the father, someone would let him know it and the rest of the season probably would include him in the story at some levels (especially since they said that the identity of the father would be a part of where the story goes). Except that Angel has his own series with Faith now, his own journey and issues, and Buffy's story will stayed focus on things which have nothing to do with him.
Willow is gone - and likely to England, but they made certain that she does not know about the pregnancy before she went. One channel of communication closed. I see no reason for them to let Angel know till the end of the season- and I see all the reasons for nobody telling him. More drama again. and yes, the two series are supposed to be two parts of a whole, not separate, even thou they are separate.
And I simply don’t believe they have the intention to connect Buffy’s and Angel’s stories this season. The spacefrak is probably the less popular thing about season 8, and like Icarium said, the staff tends to try to forget this part of the story.
The death of Jenny, Tara, Cordelia-Connor dalliance etc were probably the less popular things about their respective seasons - yet not only Joss went for these plots - they also were never reversed, forgotten or written off. In fact , these events became fundamentals to shape the seasons to come - exactly because this is Whedon's MO. He won't change it just because large part of the fandom hated it. And the staff tends to follow Joss plot. So far death of Giles has been cornerstone do A&F. I fully expect the Twilight story to come from under the rug it had been swept under pretty soon.
Anyway, I think we won't agree, so agree to disagree ? 😉 We'll get the answer very soon
We sure will.
