Spike or Angel?

[Dancing man]

Okay I got my words mixed up shes a slut. She flirts with Angelus in front of Spike and vice versa. Spike admits that she firlts with everyone in lovers walk and we also find out she was making out with a choas demon. Im sorry but I rest my case.

 

[Wicked]

Again, that doesnt make her a slut. I flirt with everyone. Its just my way. I am not a slut. So same goes for her.

 

[FahrbotDrusilla]

Okay I got my words mixed up shes a slut. She flirts with Angelus in front of Spike and vice versa. Spike admits that she firlts with everyone in lovers walk and we also find out she was making out with a choas demon. Im sorry but I rest my case.

Flirting isn't cheating, and making out with the chaos demon probably happened after she dumped him (she tells him several times when he catches her that she sees buffy all over him, she seemed madder than he was) anyway like I said they were evil and soulless, fornication wasn't a thing.

 

[Dancing man]

True their are evil and wouldnt have limitation like we do.

Wolf - You telling me you firlt when your dating and when your lover is their? and do you make out with other people?

By humans terms Dru is a bit slutty.

 

[FahrbotDrusilla]

By humans terms Dru is a bit slutty.

by HUMAN terms, Angelus is a bit gay. : grin :

 

[Wicked]

Yeah I flirt when he's there. Does this make me a slut? No.

And no I do not make out with these people I flirt with. Its not the same thing at all. Flirting is harmless fun.

And even if I did, it takes more than a kiss to make someone a slut.

 

[Schillaci]

How the hell did you people manage to turn this awesome thread about how Spike is better than Angel, into a discussion on sarcasm and whorishness?


My two cents on the topic.


Dia DeLa Muerte is not a whore, leave him alone. 😉

 

[Edmund Blackadder]

PJ, i have spent 6 years trying to get that moniker then you come along and say i'm not a whore.
Well thanx a million.

 

[postmortem]

Because she fornicated with different 'men' and i'm sure she was married to none of them.....the Brazen Hussy

She didn't get paid. Besides, none of the girls on the show were married to the men they had sex.

 

[Schillaci]

The term whore does not only mean prostitute. A whore is someone who sleeps around. Lets see, was Dru screwing Angel when she was with Spike? Oops....

 

[Black Eye Guy]

Frankly, yes. Destroying the world puts humanity out of their misery.

Ok your blanking on Angel's plan from season 2, It would have ended the world, as we know it, but the world was going to be sucked into Hell, where every single human would have suffered!

Actually, no. It shows that he couldn't handle seeing all the misery and pain that he caused, in his own head.

Yes it's called guilt, The more you show how human you are!

Wow, your points suck. Your argument actually favours Spike, though you do not realise it. Spike's a pragmatist. He realises there is nothing he can do about the people he killed. What he can do is help the people who need him now.

Eh what people did Spike help?? He go a soul, came back crazy, Stopped being crazy when Buffy Told him so. But he did not really help anyone, until Chosen, The he only really started Helping people when he was moved over to Angel:

GIRL
(stands, incredulous)
Thank you! Thank you! That thing was gonna kill me!

SPIKE
Well, what do you expect? Out alone in this neighborhood? I got half a mind to kill you myself, you half-wit.

GIRL
What?!

SPIKE
I mean, honestly, what kind of retard wears heels like that in a dark alley? Take 2 steps, break your bloody ankle.

GIRL
I was just trying to get home.

SPIKE
(pushes her shoulder, ushering her down the alley toward a lit street)
Well, get a cab, you moron.
(calling after her as she walks away)
And on the way, if a stranger offers you candy, don't get in the van!
(under his breath)
Stupid cow.

DOYLE
(sitting on a nearby fire escape landing)
Believe me now?

SPIKE
What, your victim vision? Please. Can't throw a bloody stone in this town without hitting some bimbo in trouble.

DOYLE
(walks down the fire escape stairs toward Spike)
Tough guy, huh? Nice work, by the way, takin' out that vamp.

SPIKE
(looking around, unimpressed)
Oh, yeah. Epic battle. My finest hour.

DOYLE
You just saved a girl's life. It's nothing to laugh off. Though you could try being a little nicer next time. You almost made her cry.

SPIKE
Next time?

DOYLE
Well, that's up to you. A lot more people need saving.

SPIKE
News flash, sparky: Don't need your help. Been saving people long before you showed up.

DOYLE
Not like this. You just helped a person when there wasn't anything in it for you. That's not like the Spike I know.

SPIKE
Oh, is that right? And what Spike is that?

DOYLE
The Spike that's only out for himself. The one who does good deeds to impress...women.

SPIKE
(angrily)
You'd best watch your"”

Yeah Spike really showed his compassion towards helpless victims. And What Lindsey said was true, he has only being good deeds to impress Buffy! Trying to get into his good books, so it was for totally selfish reasons!

No, wrong. Spike understood love.

Again looking at the talk with clem in Seeing Red He is conflicted about love, he misunderstands it as the chip! And he believed The attempted Rape of Buffy was Love!

 

[Wicked]

The term whore does not only mean prostitute. A whore is someone who sleeps around. Lets see, was Dru screwing Angel when she was with Spike? Oops....

That would make her a cheater, not a whore.

 

[postmortem]

That would make her a cheater, not a whore.

That's true. She cheated on Spike but she is not a whore.

 

[Schillaci]

That would make her a cheater, not a whore.

Huh? So if she cheated on Spike with one hundred guys she wouldn't be a whore, just a cheater?
A whore is a person that is sexually promiscuous.

Ok your blanking on Angel's plan from season 2, It would have ended the world, as we know it, but the world was going to be sucked into Hell, where every single human would have suffered!

I view that as a radical interpretation of the text.

Yes it's called guilt, The more you show how human you are!

Angel felt sorry for himself for 100 years. I'm sorry, but if thats your view of a good person, a hero, then there is no hope for you.

Eh what people did Spike help?? He go a soul, came back crazy, Stopped being crazy when Buffy Told him so. But he did not really help anyone, until Chosen, The he only really started Helping people when he was moved over to Angel:

I think you should go back and watch the show. Spike never helped anyone? Anyone like, Cassie, Willow, Anya, scoobies, Buffy, the list goes on..

Yeah Spike really showed his compassion towards helpless victims. And What Lindsey said was true, he has only being good deeds to impress Buffy! Trying to get into his good books, so it was for totally selfish reasons!

Riiiight. If Lindsey says it, then it MUST be true. D'you wan't to talk selfish reasons?
Angel was only helping people so he could get shanshued. So he could be human and live his life with Buffy. After TGIQ he realised he wasn't going to end up with Buffy, so he signed away the crummy prophecy and emotionally blackmailed his friends into commiting suicide with him. Which, is so consistant with his mopey, dopey, the world is woe character.

Again looking at the talk with clem in Seeing Red He is conflicted about love, he misunderstands it as the chip! And he believed The attempted Rape of Buffy was Love!

Angel murdered his own son. Purely from love.

 

[postmortem]

Huh? So if she cheated on Spike with one hundred guys she wouldn't be a whore, just a cheater?
A whore is a person that is sexually promiscuous.

Spike is sexually promiscuous too.

 

[Wicked]

This is what you said

The term whore does not only mean prostitute. A whore is someone who sleeps around. Lets see, was Dru screwing Angel when she was with Spike? Oops....

This suggests she was sleeping with Angel and Spike yes?
Where does it mention other people. This makes her a cheater.

Yes sleeping with hundreds of people would make her a whore, but where is this ever mentioned?

 

[Schillaci]

Spike is sexually promiscuous too.

You say that like its a bad thing. 😉

This is what you said



This suggests she was sleeping with Angel and Spike yes?
Where does it mention other people. This makes her a cheater.

Yes sleeping with hundreds of people would make her a whore, but where is this ever mentioned?

Uhm, ok so I didn't say she has slept with other people while she was with Spike. THE SHOW DID.

 

[Black Eye Guy]

I view that as a radical interpretation of the text.

Actually I call the a fact from the text:

Willow: Okay, somebody explain the whole 'he will suck the world into
Hell' thing, because that's the part I'm not loving.

Giles: Well, the, uh, (puts on his glasses) the Demon Universe exists
in a dimension separate from our own. (sits on the table) With one
breath, Acathla will create a vortex, a-a kind of, um... whirlpool that
will pull everything on Earth into that dimension, where any non-demon
life will suffer horrible and... eternal torment.

Becoming Pt1

Angel felt sorry for himself for 100 years. I'm sorry, but if that's your view of a good person, a hero, then there is no hope for you.

And if you believe that you spend 100 years killing people and can get over it in a few months, there is no hope for you!

Riiiight. If Lindsey says it, then it MUST be true. D'you wan't to talk selfish reasons?

I didn't say because Lindsey said it, it was right, but there was truth in what he said, Spike did all his good deeds to impress Buffy

Angel was only helping people so he could get shanshued. So he could be human and live his life with Buffy. After TGIQ he realised he wasn't going to end up with Buffy, so he signed away the crummy prophecy and emotionally blackmailed his friends into commiting suicide with him. Which, is so consistant with his mopey, dopey, the world is woe character.

Angel moved away from Buffy, because he was able to see that they could never have a normal life together, something Spike could not, He did it for Buffy. Then in LA he started helping people, and later found out about a prophecy that would make him human but he set up Angel Investigations before that information!

Angel murdered his own son. Purely from love.

Yes, Yes he did, By killing Connor he gave him everything Angel could not. That should not have even been brought up!

 

[postmortem]

You say that like its a bad thing. 😉

I say because that's how you described a whore. You said: "A whore is a person that is sexually promiscuous." Spike and Angelus were sexually promiscuous too. Spike is still sexually promiscuous. Is he a whore? Was Angelus a whore?

 

[FahrbotDrusilla]

I say because that's how you described a whore. You said: "A whore is a person that is sexually promiscuous." Spike and Angelus were sexually promiscuous too. Spike is still sexually promiscuous. Is he a whore? Was Angelus a whore?

umm... Angelus was a man!slut... Darla was a whore.