The Chosen One (Pt.2)

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Slayer, The: Buffy didn't die in villians.You can see the heart monitor thingi, and her heart is still beating.How do you know she died for one second.It doesn't say it on any site.It's official.Buffy only died two times.Please show me a site where it says Buffy died three times.A reliable site, please.
 
Buffy died in season 5.During that time, Faith was the active slayer, and only Faith could activate another slayer.When Buffy was revived, by supernatural powers, she was reinserted into the slayer line.She became the last activated slayer.This is why the shadowmen said she was the last guardian of the hellmouth.Buffy became a slayer, AGAIN, after she got revived with magic.It caused the disruption, because two ACTIVE SLAYERS, who could activate ANOTHER SLAYER, were alive at the same time.The reason why the first didn't attack Buffy and Faith in season 3, was because there was only one active slayer, which was Faith.Buffy wasn't the active slayer.There was no disrption back then, because there was only one active and real slayer, back then.But when Buffy died in season 5, she was revived in season 6, and she was reinserted to the slayerline.This caused the disuption, because now there was TWO ACTIVE SLAYERS, alive.We learn that Buffy can activate another slayer, in the episode "Potential".When the shadowmen said that she was the last guardian of the hellmouth this is what they meant-Buffy was revived in season 7, and was revived bck into the slayer line.So Faith a current active slayer, then buffy came back, then she was the next, and last guardian of the hellmouth.Faith was the real slayer since kendra died, but when buffy came back again, there were two real slayers, but buffy was the last guardian of the hellmouth, and the last real slayer to be activated, so that is why she is the real slayer of season 6 & 7.

And yes, I have watched Chosen many times on SPACE.
 
Um..I asked if you watched VILLIANS

And by the way, you should probably quote me on that last post as that's what I've been saying all along...you keep contradicting yourself in your theories...
 
It doesn't say she's dead.Does it?

Cut to: Sunnydale hospital. Xander stands in the hallway looking through a window into another room, anxious. A nurse in full scrubs goes past him, holding a small tray. The camera follows her as she goes around a corner and through a door into the room Xander is watching. We see various medical personnel working on Buffy, talking indistinctly. A machine beeps steadily.

Source: http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season6/transcripts/120_tran.shtml

LINE: We see various medical personnel working on Buffy, talking indistinctly. A machine beeps steadily. The machine is the heart monitor.Her heart is still beating.


The lights in the room continue flashing erratically and the beeping continues to speed up.

Xander rushes in, looks with surprise at Willow with her newly black hair and eyes.

XANDER: Willow.

WILLOW: (ignoring him, speaking to the medical staff) Now.

The doctor and three nurses move toward the door. The beeping gets even faster and becomes a steady whine.

XANDER: Will, what are you doing?! She's going to die.
WILLOW: No she isn't.

Source: http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season6/transcripts/120_tran.shtml

LINE:XANDER: Will, what are you doing?! She's going to die.
WILLOW: No she isn't.Xander didn't say she was dead.She's just dying.Then Willow comes and heals her.Willow saves her from dying, AGAIN.
 
The machine whines steadily...hence flatline..hence technically dead...but it doesn't mean she at that point couldn't be revived by either the magic or the doctors...Xander's not a doctor either last time I checked...
 
Cut to: Sunnydale hospital. Xander stands in the hallway looking through a window into another room, anxious. A nurse in full scrubs goes past him, holding a small tray. The camera follows her as she goes around a corner and through a door into the room Xander is watching. We see various medical personnel working on Buffy, talking indistinctly. A machine beeps steadily.

(This scene was before Willow came.She was alive.She didn't die.)

Cordelia said:
The machine whines steadily...hence flatline..hence technically dead...
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Where did you get that quote?Unless you send me a link, of a reliable source saying Buffy died, I'll believe you.
 
LMFAO...The quote you posted said the machine whined steadily..maybe you should read it? I'm not telling you to believe me because obviously we have a difference in opinion...I'm just stating mine.

When a heart monitor "whines steadily" its a flatline which indicates the absence of a beating heart.

Villians said:
XANDER: You've got to stop doing this. This dying thing's funny once, maybe twice.
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But during the airing of the episode, did you hear a flat heart beat?Or a slow heart beating?I'm sure I heard a slow heart beating.
 
Xx, your word is not holy. And I really, really don't appreciate somebody repeatedly telling us we're wrong when we're so very clearly not.

I'm going to quote buffyworld.com too, Xx, and show you where the machine flatlines.

buffyworld.com said:
The doctor and three nurses leave. The beeping gets faster and starts a steady whine.

Xander: Will, what are you doing?! She going to die!
Willow: No she won't.
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You know what that means? A steady whine means she DIED. She freaking FLATLINED. And BEFORE Willow pulled the bullet out of her chest. It's right here in plain FREAKING English for you to see.

I know I sound like a b-tch. But I'm just so damned frustrated.
 
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Cordelia
I feel ya girl!
Damn...I just posted the following post on the previous thread just as Jacklyn was closing it for going over a 100. My apologies to Jacklyn. I'll go back and try to delete my post there.

Anywhooo... Here's the post. It should update everything that was said on the last thread.

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So, I book on this morning, and I see you guys have convinced Xx the slayer line passed at least through Buffy and Faith, but definitely Buffy in Season 7.

We must be on to something if the support for the arguement can even convince it's toughest critics.

I'd like to organize the timeline of the facts surrounding the Slayer-line question.

* Pre-Season 6: Both Marti Noxon and Joss Whedon, as well as the characters of BTVS tell us, or accept as fact, the slayer-line passes through Faith. The Marti Noxon quote posted by Xx is something I saw well before Season 6, and even before Joss said it, just before the start of Season 6.

After Season 6 though, I defy anyone to produce a quote from anyone in ME or the BTVS characters themselves saying the line passes through Faith.

* Post Season 5. At the beginning of Season 6 Buffy is brought back from the dead. We are told over and over again by assorted characters throughout the series, there are repurcussions to this kind of spell.

At the end of Season 6 in the episode Villains, Buffy dies for a third time. More precisely she flatlines.

I could be wrong about this, but as I understand it, there are 2 kinds of death: heart death, and brain death. With brain death the body begins to decompose, and cannot be brought back through medical means.

Here's a theory that hasn't been proposed yet. The switch in the slayer-line could have happened as a result of the spell after Buffy's "Brain-death", at the end of S-5, but The First didn't understand the repurcussions, until her "Heart-death" in Villains.

* Beljoxa's Eye: In an effort to discover why The First Evil has appeared in Sunnydale, Giles and Anya seek out the all-seeing, all-knowing, Beljoxa's Eye. Apparently there is a disruption in the "tforces surrounding the chosen line".

"GILES
If The First has been around for all time, then why hasn't it attempted something like this before? Why now?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The opportunity has only recently presented itself.

GILES
Opportunity?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The mystical forces surrounding the chosen line have become irrevocably altered, become unstable, vulnerable.

ANYA
Something The First did?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The First Evil did not cause the disruption, only seized upon it to extinguish the lives of the chosen forever.

GILES
Then what has caused the disruption? What"”what is responsible for letting this happen?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The slayer."

* Upon leaving the Eye's dimension, Anya and Giles discuss what they've learned:

"ANYA
(limping) Yeah, I just"”I don't understand how Buffy's death mucked up the whole slayer mojo. You know, it's not like she hasn't died before.

GILES
It's not because she died. The Beljoxa's Eye was quite clear about that in its enigmatic way. It's because she lives. Again. Buffy's not responsible for that.

ANYA
Oh. Oh. Willow and me and Xander and Tara. We're the ones who brought Buffy back. We're"”we're the reason The First is here, the reason those girls were murdered. No, it's our fault. The would would've been better off if Buffy had just stayed dead. (walks off)

* Acceptance of Buffy as Chosen One: After the discussion between Anya and Giles, there appears to be a general agreement among the characters that the line now passes, at least through Buffy. I counted at least 6 characters, and have posted on this thread where they said it.

The last character to speak of Buffy's death was The First Evil. Beljoxa's eye tells us The First is here as a result of a disruption in the Chosen line. One therefore has to believe The First knows about such stuff. Joss Whedon wrote the episode where this happens. Joss is the last word on the Buffyverse. It is the last episode of the Season and the Series, so it is unlikely Joss is saying something tricky to fool the viewers with later.

* The Scythe: Willow uses the Magic Energy within the Scythe to activate the slayer potential of at least hundreds of girls around the world. From this we know, there can be multiple slayers, and multiple slayer activations. We do not know how the slayer-line will procedd from this point."
 
Mesektet Ra:READ THE TRANSCRIPTS:

The doctor and three nurses leave. The beeping gets faster and starts a steady whine.

Xander: Will, what are you doing?! "She's going to die!"--He didn't say she's dead.Did he?Nobody did.
Willow: No she won't.


MESSAGE:OK GUYS, PROVE TO ME THAT BUFFY DIED, BY LINKING AN ARTICLE, OR INTERVIEW, NOT A QUOTE.I WILL ONLY BELIEVE IT IF I SEE AN ARTICLE BY JOSS OR SOME BUFFY EXPERT.THE QUOTES YOU GUYS HAVE SENT ME HAVEN'T CLEARLY STATED THAT BUFFY DIED.THERE WASN'T ONE LINE WHERE IT SAYS BUFFY DIED.
 
A quote is the same thing as Joss saying it as Joss is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF BUFFY.

You seem to be the only person who believes that Buffy did not die on that table.
 
Never ounce has there been a line saying Buffy died three times.

XANDER
I've been through more battles with Buffy than you all can ever imagine. She's stopped everything that's ever come up against her. (Buffy and Faith walk through the front door and overhear Xander's speech) She's laid down her life—literally—to protect the people around her. This girl has died two times, and she's still standing. You're scared? That's smart. You got questions? You should. But you doubt her motives, you think Buffy's all about the kill, then you take the little bus to battle. (Buffy tears up) I've seen her heart, and this time—not literally. And I'm telling you, right now, she cares more about your lives than you will ever know. You gotta trust her. She's earned it.

Source: http://www.buffyworld.com/buffy/season7/transcripts/140_tran.php

Cordelia said:
A quote is the same thing as Joss saying it as Joss is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF BUFFY.

You seem to be the only person who believes that Buffy did not die on that table.
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Then please send me a quote saying Buffy died three times.
 
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ProphecyGirl
oh thats actually a good point.
In the lines, it says that Buffy flatlined AFTER Willow healed her.This is why Xander says-Will, what are you doing?! She's going to die!
He was scared because Buffy's heart monitor went flatline.But Buffy was still alive.

Cordelia said:
From VILLIANS:
XANDER: You've got to stop doing this. This dying thing's funny once, maybe twice.

Ounce=Once
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There's that word again.DYING.He didn't say she was dead.He was scared because buffy was DYING.In season 7, he said that she died only 2 TIMES, NOT 3 TIMES.
 
Oh my look at what happened to this topic. Cordelia was very right about the huge debate that was a'coming....that a'came. 2 topics now.

So the big argument is whether or not Buffy died? why? I thought this was about who the slayer line goes through not whether or not she died.

Also found this on webmd.com

There are two ways people die. One is called cardiopulmonary death, which is when breathing stops and the heart stops beating for a prolonged period of time. The other type of death is brain death. Brain death is a formal and legal definition of death. It occurs when the flow of blood to the brain is stopped permanently due to a severe attack, injury or tumor. This results in the ceasing of brain function and cannot be reversed.
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