Question UK Referendum to Stay or Leave the EU

[RomanticSoul]

I just don't understand some of the people (reiterate 'some') who voted 'leave' because they didn't think their vote would make a difference. Or as a protest vote against their government. Or because they didn't know what they were voting for. I think quite a few have already woken up and the petition for a second Referendum is already almost at 1 million.

It just won't make a difference. The EU has already said 'leave means leave'. And Cameron stalling the process by resigning won't help either. They already have lawyers looking into as to how they can speed up the process of triggering Article 50. Which I'm fully on board with. UK is likely stalling to enter negotiations before the triggering goes into effect. But the EU has already said there will be no negotiations. I love the hardline the EU is taking in this regard and they aren't willing to give the UK yet another special snowflake treatment. We've had years enough of that. I hope this can be done quickly because UK is holding 450 million Europeans hostage right now with their stalling. And no one is in the mood for that whether it's EU's citizens, Industry/Economy or the Financial Market.

 

[GwenRaiden]

Hmm yeah, there's clearly instant regret with quite a few leave voters. I am guessing there will be further regret down the line too. It seems the leave campaign leaders don't really know what to do next either. Other than back peddle by making clear most of their campaign was based on lies.

 

[Sternbeeere]

I just don't understand some of the people (reiterate 'some') who voted 'leave' because they didn't think their vote would make a difference. Or as a protest vote against their government. Or because they didn't know what they were voting for.

This is a very unsettling phenomenon for me. If that is true, this indicates how uninformed, frustrated and cynical some people might have become with the things going around them. Things which are actually very important for a whole countries future....

 

[GwenRaiden]

Mr. Pole: More than a few... look at the google search results. I think people, after voting, decided to see what the actual ramifications of their vote were.

My "quite a few" comment was me trying to be kind.. 😀

 

[Skanky Vamp]

This is a very unsettling phenomenon for me. If that is true, this indicates how uninformed, frustrated and cynical some people might have become with the things going around them. Things which are actually very important for a whole countries future....

You might like reading this.

 

[Sternbeeere]

You might like reading this.

The question is, are those who voted for the exit or some of those who did not vote at all and now got panicked, because it is more present now.

 

[RomanticSoul]

This is a very unsettling phenomenon for me. If that is true, this indicates how uninformed, frustrated and cynical some people might have become with the things going around them. Things which are actually very important for a whole countries future....

Have you not seen the articles and videos?

But I have to say I found some fun in the whole thing. Thanks to Trump, as usual.

 

[Taake]

You might like reading this.

One of the top questions asked by UK users after the Brexit referendum result to ‘leave’ was released was “what is the EU?”, Google Trends reported.

Best laugh all day. Because honestly, when you talk to people here, plenty of people haven't the foggiest. Nor an interest in getting informed.

 

[RomanticSoul]

Wanna guess what was trending after results were offically out?

'How to move to Canada.'

 

[Sternbeeere]

Have you not seen the articles and videos?

No, I have only read that it very more older people voted for the leave than the younger ones. That Scottland wants an out referendum and also had more remain voters, but not that.

 

[Mr Trick]

This is a very unsettling phenomenon for me. If that is true, this indicates how uninformed, frustrated and cynical some people might have become with the things going around them. Things which are actually very important for a whole countries future....

And the other problem is as a result of us not being informed of the facts (by both sides) is that in some cases that would have led to many people not voting at all which is something I'm never in favour of. I'm not regretting my choice how weak would that be of me? There was always going to be more question marks if we left than stayed because we are going into the unknown. But no we shouldn't have another referendum. The vote has been cast and its only been two days. We have to go with it and if it back fires then so be it.

 

[November]

This one had me laughing and then almost crying...
Furious Leave voters want to change their decision because they didn't think UK would actually leave

 

[Sternbeeere]

And the other problem is as a result of us not being informed of the facts (by both sides) is that in some cases that would have led to many people not voting at all which is something I'm never in favour of. I'm not regretting my choice how weak would that be of me? There was always going to be more question marks if we left than stayed because we are going into the unknown. But no we shouldn't have another referendum. The vote has been cast and its only been two days. We have to go with it and if it back fires then so be it.

But making an uniformed choice when uninformed means not knowing what the EU is , is like flipping a coin is not good either, not at all.
Of course, nobody can know the full amount of consequences of both outcomes. And it could have been that staying might have lead to negative results as well. For example further quarrels EU against GB, or EU politicians becoming more and more convinced into believing they do everything right and the EU being more likely to dissolve on long term as a result. But there should be a basic level of information in an important case like that.
And yes, going to the unknown is scarier and leads to more debates therefore.

 

[Taake]

And the other problem is as a result of us not being informed of the facts (by both sides) is that in some cases that would have led to many people not voting at all which is something I'm never in favour of.

Honestly, listening to the debates regarding this for the last couple of months I can't blame anyone for being confused or not greatly informed. The whole thing was kind of a mess. Felt more like a "go with you gut" vote, than an "I'm so informed" vote.

 

[RomanticSoul]

And the other problem is as a result of us not being informed of the facts (by both sides) is that in some cases that would have led to many people not voting at all which is something I'm never in favour of.

Ok this is in no way meant to be condescending but...that's why you educate yourself. If history should have taught mankind one thing it's that you can't trust your government. It's why I don't watch news or read newspapers. The media is the main mouth piece of the government to spread false information. That's why so many Brits see the EU as 'evil', despite all that's been done (including the things I have already mentioned).

Chin up Brits, India can't wait to do more business with you.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

I dont understand the mentality of people saying they would rather voters turn up, that don't understand what they are voting for, than not cast a vote. That never works out well.

 

[Athena]

Honestly, listening to the debates regarding this for the last couple of months I can't blame anyone for being confused or not greatly informed. The whole thing was kind of a mess. Felt more like a "go with you gut" vote, than an "I'm so informed" vote.

Definitely. Well, that's how I mostly felt.

But also, so many lies were told. The leave campaign has already backtracked on the £350 million for the NHS pledge, with Nigel Farage basically saying "I didn't say that"

Errrr.....

 

[RomanticSoul]

Media, I'm telling you.

Brexit gives way to Bregret

Trump, man.

 

[Mr Trick]

But making an uniformed choice when uninformed means not knowing what the EU is , is like flipping a coin is not good either, not at all.
Of course, nobody can know the full amount of consequences of both outcomes. And it could have been that staying might have lead to negative results as well. For example further quarrels EU against GB, or EU politicians becoming more and more convinced into believing they do everything right and the EU being more likely to dissolve on long term as a result. But there should be a basic level of information in an important case like that.
And yes, going to the unknown is scarier and leads to more debates therefore.

Yeah it was tough. But I've said all along than I don't think much would change no matter the result and I still believe that. And I don't think you have to be that well informed to see what a mess the EU is and the effect it could have on Britian long term. I'm just not in favour as a rule of not voting. Anyway, I'm already burnt out from discussing this, so I will bow out from this thread for now😉

 

[November]

I dont understand the mentality of people saying they would rather voters turn up, that don't understand what they are voting for, than not cast a vote. That never works out well.

I agree and I was trying to think of a way to put it, you did better than me.

We have an election coming up, AD's on TV telling us to practice vote, honestly there are so few that will even fill in the vote card right, let alone know anything about who they are voting for.

Donkey vote is so popular here in a place with mandatory voting. I know I don't trust any of them.

I'm sad for those fooled.