@DeadlyDuo Your posts sounds like 'women shouldn't be allowed emotion because it upsets men'. CRT fans on social media are arguing that white women's tears are manipulative and cause black people to suffer. I'd be surprised it you believe this, but you are saying something similar. (Apologies to mods if this is too political, please delete if you think so)
Trying not to get political because this is a dicey subject but as you've made a point directed at me, I will clarify my view:
CRT fans are racist and the point they are making is based on race eg WHITE women crying are "dangerous" to BLACK men, though they tend to avoid the question if you reverse it eg is a BLACK woman crying "dangerous" to WHITE men. CRT fans believe black people are victims because they're black and will never be anything other than a victim.
The point I'm making is that women do have certain advantages that men do not due to how society views the roles of men and women. Men are supposed to be "protectors" of women, therefore a man not doing that eg making a woman cry is seen as a failure in his duty as a man. It's also why domestic abuse cases can be very one sided eg a woman is more likely to report being abused by a man than a man is to report being abused by a woman. Just look at the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp saga- she cries wolf, he gets blackballed and dropped from movies and franchises. She even told him nobody would believe him because he's a man and she's a woman. The truth emerges that she's the actual abuser, media goes quiet, she's still employed and he's still on the outs with major Hollywood studios.
In regards to Warren, we don't know what his background was like growing up, we don't see his parents marriage, it could've been as abusive as Xander's. For all we know Warren's mom could've pulled the manipulative tears tricks. Children tend to end up with the mothers during divorce than they are the fathers so Warren's mother having custody doesn't necessarily reflect the virtues of her character. On the other hand, crying is emotional blackmail could've been something his father told him. Again it's pure conjecture because we know nothing of Warren's background. The point I'm making is that there could be legitimate reasons for why Warren associates crying with emotional blackmail that have nothing to do with misogyny and more to do with his upbringing. Presumably he never told Katrina she wasn't allowed to cry as it was emotional blackmail. It's probably safe to say that Katrina was his first girlfriend therefore he grew as a person between creating April and the time IWMTLY rolls around. Just because Warren held that view pre-Katrina, again possibly due to factors in his upbringing, doesn't mean he still holds that view post-Katrina.
Also Katrina doesn't seem like the type of woman that would want to be in a relationship with a misogynist. She and Warren were staying together at his mom's house. Either she's meeting his mom for the first time or she's already met her in which case they've crossed a big milestone in their relationship. Misogynists don't tend to have healthy equal footing relationships with women, least of all strong intelligent women like Katrina. Therefore either Katrina is a strong woman and Warren isn't a misogynist, or he is a misogynist and Katrina is not a strong intelligent woman, they can't be both.
That's not flipping misogyny. Not wanting to see someone, particularity a woman, cry is in no way misogyny. Nor is programming a robot not to cry. Generally, people feel uncomfortable watching others cry. It's discomforting, especially for men, it's not misogyny.
Also the water from the tears which would have to be artificially created, since April wouldn't be able to create any of her own, doesn't seem to be a good idea to have near electrical wiring. Presumably the robots also don't sweat or take showers or go swimming because liquids and electronics rarely go well together.
I agree that most people don't like to see someone else cry, especially if it makes them feel bad. If you've created a robot to be what you think is the perfect woman, the last thing you want is for them to make you feel bad.
Sweeping statement...You might not but I can imagine some who do. As I've said, for much of the time Warren's not under the gaze so, in effect, his feelings are his own. Perversely, a crying woman could make him feel stronger rather than weaker. Having the ability to reduce a women to tears makes him feel big; comforting her makes him feel good. I'm sure Xander's dad wouldn't be averse to making his wife cry and I'm sure Spike responds differently to tears from Dru, Harmony and Buffy. Does Warren have a God complex?
That doesn't make sense logically. If reducing a woman to tears makes Warren feel "big", why would he create what he thought was the perfect woman and program her not to cry?
But not wanting to see a woman cry isn't the same as making a machine, calling it a woman, and telling it not to cry and that crying is manipulation. And no one likes to see anyone cry, but women don't go telling men not to do it because it makes us sad do we?
Non-abusive women don't tell men not to do it. Abusive women, on the other hand, would infer that a man crying makes him less of a man.
Again, there are societal expectations that differ between men and women that still persist today. If a man makes a woman cry, he's a jerk. If a woman makes a man cry, he's a "wuss" and clearly can't handle the opinions of "strong" women. Modern day feminism is less about equality and more about hating on men, especially straight white ones.
Edit - As
@TriBel points out, some men do get a lot of satisfaction from making women cry.
Again, if Warren was so misogynistic that he'd get a kick out of making women cry, why would he program what he thought was the perfect woman not to cry?
Whereas I think that men are creating female robots without emotions because they dislike women having those emotions. Even when Katrina was walking away from Warren, showing anger, he couldn't handle it, doesn't he say 'shut your mouth'? Perhaps it's not the emotions themselves, but as
@Faded90 suggests, it's that he cannot control those emotions. Warren did try and turn Katrina into a 'robot' in the end.
I thought he told her to shut her mouth in the house then immediately tried to backtrack? It's been a while since I've seen the episode but I always thought he snapped at her in a moment of stress eg he'd kept April a secret, now it was all coming out in the open. He wouldn't be the first person to say something in the heat of the moment then instantly regret it.
I guess this is getting off topic but there is such thing as female misogyny and at times it seems to be a recurring underlying topic. Food for thought.
I'm going to ask you to clarify this remark. I think I get what you are implying but I want to double check that I am interpreting your remark correctly before I respond to it directly.
Back to topic. Can you explain me why do you hate Riley but defend Warren? It's a real question. I'm curious about how you compare them.
Warren was never presented as this perfect guy whereas Riley was even though his actions showed a lot of "red flag" behaviour. Riley was literally called "the one who comes along once in a lifetime". When Warren does bad stuff, particularly during Season 6, it is treated as such, so much so he is literally a "villain" in Season 6. Riley does a lot of stuff that would ring alarm bells eg accusing Buffy of cheating on him with no evidence whatsoever then trying to justify and excuse it with "I'm so in love with you I can't think straight", and again is treated as someone Buffy should want to be with and called "the one who comes along once in a lifetime". His ultimatum to Buffy is basically "give me a reason to stay or it's your fault if I leave". Not catching the helicopter is the best thing that could've happened to Buffy because if she had stopped Riley from leaving then she would feel like she owed him to make the relationship work, even if she was unhappy, because she would've cost him his chance to re-join the military.
