Was Faith right to be annoyed?

Mulder22 said:
Well of course she knew that all along. The thing was though that Faith is the one that did that to Angel so Buffy wanted Faith to pay the price by being his cure as well.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean she deserved it or that Buffy did what she had to do. Buffy really, really wanted to kill Faith, and almost did. Just because Faith screwed up doesn't give Buffy the right to try and kill her. It's not about paying a price, the world isn't "an eye for an eye" anymore. They both really messed up, but they can't just go try and get revenge over and over.
 
princess_zombie said:
Yeah, but it doesn't mean she deserved it or that Buffy did what she had to do. Buffy really, really wanted to kill Faith, and almost did. Just because Faith screwed up doesn't give Buffy the right to try and kill her. It's not about paying a price, the world isn't "an eye for an eye" anymore. They both really messed up, but they can't just go try and get revenge over and over.



I don't think that Buffy was right in what she did to Faith. It was obviously revenge for what Faith did to Angel. I guess I kinda worded my point of view a little wrong. I don't blame Buffy for what she did because in the same situation I probably would do the same. However that doesn't make it right.
 
Mulder22 said:
I don't think that Buffy was right in what she did to Faith. It was obviously revenge for what Faith did to Angel. I guess I kinda worded my point of view a little wrong. I don't blame Buffy for what she did because in the same situation I probably would do the same. However that doesn't make it right.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. In Buffy's situation, I would probably have done the same thing too. But if I was in Faith's situation, I would probably do the things that she did.
 
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princess_zombie said:
Yeah, I see what you're saying. In Buffy's situation, I would probably have done the same thing too. But if I was in Faith's situation, I would probably do the things that she did.


yeah I can't argue with you there.
 
For me, I think that the interesting thing about the whole situation is that as soon as Faith wakes up her initial reaction is to go to the high school and straight back to the only person she felt showed her love, he father figure. She was going to return to him, not seek Buffy out to exact revenge right away. Who knows what she would have done if she still had the Mayor when she woke up. In her dream sequences she had her 'dad' with her, having a picnic and its a geniune smile and genuine contentment, only to have Buffy come through and attack her. She's paranoid of Buffy taking that love away from her, maybe she would have went back to her and stayed away from Buffy awhile in fear of her taking the mayor away.

But when she wakes up, the only person that opened their arms and took her in, in her eyes, is gone. Everything she had build up, is gone. And the people that did that are all still here and getting on with their lives. I think this fuels Faith's reaction to go back and see what Buffy is up to, in Sunnydale she really doesn't have anywhere else to go.

I can completely understand in her eyes why she wants revenge, not that I condone it or think she is in the right to believe that. But she feels left behind, the only other person in the world like her moving on and shes stuck alone and with nothing, her first reaction is going to be to lash out, and Buffy seems like the obvious choice. I think when Faith goes to Joyce and talks to her, we really see all the insecurity coming out and the jealousy she has for Buffy, she wants to be her, have her friends and her family, so the body switch is just kind of ironic, Faith learns more about herself in Buffy's body and what it is to be a slayer than she ever did in her own skin.

Okay thats kind of sidetracking, but I can see why she wanted revenge, and can see why Buffy wouldn't want to remember her, Faith wasn't exactly the nicest person in Season 3
 
Well, speaking for what's underlying in Faith's actions...

Faith's main motivation is recognition, and the kind of friendship Buffy has with Xander and Willow. She was to be cared for and looked after, like what the Mayor gave her.

In this respect, I feel that Faith totally had the right to be angry, or annoyed or whatever. Because Buffy went through all this trouble just to save this guy she was so in love with, and to find out that AFTER she wakes up from the eight-month coma Buffy put her in to save said guy, she's not even DATING HIM, much less living in the same town he is. So.

And on top of it all, Buffy seems to have forgotten all about Faith. Which lead us back to recognition - Buffy did all these things to Faith, yet doesn't even seem to remember she existed. And that hurts Faith, and how does Faith react to hurt? Through violence, and manipulation. Ergo the body switch.

So...there's that.
 
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