I'm curious if the people who hate it watched it while it was on the air. Because I did and it was excruciating how long UPN made us wait for new episodes and aired reruns. It made the season drag out really long and feel a lot longer than it was. When it reaired over the summer, I came to see how brilliantly the whole season tied together and appreciated it a lot more. I also have come to appreciate its meaning a lot more as an adult. When I was sixteen/seventeen when it aired, it just felt way too depressing, though now I understand it more.
What do you think about season 6?
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If I had to rank the seasons this would be near the bottom, but I still enjoyed it. (There isn't a single season I didn't enjoy) The only reason why would be the overall plot to the season. Every other season had a Big Bad introduced early on and all the episodes lead up to the conclusion. I thought the Nerd Herd of Warren, Andrew, and Jonathan looked nonthreatening and a bit of a joke. In comparison to other villains, they just didn't seem scary. If Willow was considered the Big Bad, it would of been more effective to start that earlier in the season. It only lasted a couple episodes.
Why did you think it was the worst - garbage worthy and even now, with time and your change of opinion still place it rock bottom. What things do you see differently now?
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Excellent commentary - IMO, excellent posts as yours can get big and rant all the time.
So many viewers then and currents fans want to see things only from a limited surface layer - there are no easy answers to the themes that were presented in season 6 and trying to explain or understand this journey story will, IMVHO, not give a complete understanding of the complexity and powerful story of Buffy and Spike. Both of these character were damaged emotionally and played this tragedy out together as well as created their eventual healing, transformation and final heroic resolution in "Chosen."
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Thank you! I think I studied the subject a little too much. This is the result. lol
When I first watch Season 6 back in 2001/2002 I guess I had great expectation 🙄 like OMG Buffy is coming back and OMG really she is coming back 🙂
By the time I was a huge fan of the text, don't get me wrong, I love the series throughout, but was really stuck out for me was the text, the use of English, the humor, the slang. Season 6 not only went dark, but the humor went lost, thus I didn't like it and put it at the bottom of my list. In fact never rewatched it except for OMWF.
Then came across the possibility to write my Thesis on Buffy and though about almost everything, as the academic work in Buffy is like huge, I struggled to find something nobody did before 😱 well I know it's impossible, so decided in fan fiction (first thinking on writing on fanfic and fan production) When I rewatched the Seasons anew it hit me 😱 The Trio! nobody really worked on the Trio, and they are like "mirror universum" fans => the total clichè. By then I was already assured that Whedon never does nothing without a reason, thus I just keep on looking for the reason 😉 and found the basis data that roots my Thesis "Fan-Representation in BtVS"
The way the show represent the fans is complicated and sometimes astonishingly, but it anyway there
It will be never become my favorite Buffy Season, for once I can barely stand the way Buffy treats Spike all through it... back in Season 2001 I blamed Spike, now even if understanding Buffy, I think she should not treated him like that.
From an academic POW however, the season becomes interesting, the representations are both blunt and multilayered. We all know that the show and the fans have always have a very tightly relationship (some of us use to post to the Bronze in a daily basis and were rewarded by reply from the staff), thus to see how the fans are represented in the Trio and
how we fans seem to do not see it ? 😱
it's.... interesting
OK... this is getting long and longer, thus
Sorry 😱 hope I clarified some...
Wild At Heart
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I love s6 because it is so much darker & I like that. There's a lot of good stand alone episodes but the overall arc dealt with life as the big bad & I think that was brilliant.
Basically this. In my recent rewatch (just finished Wrecked) I find that it's not such a bad season. But Wrecked is absolutely terrible! Marti Noxon didn't do a good job this time, for me at least. There were good things in the episode, like Willow hugging Tara's "ghost?" I don't know what to call that. And at the end when she's crying and fell to the ground. Overall it's a good season - I rank it my 3rd least favorite.
Spikefan31
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Just started a season 6 rewatch, and I've enjoyed the first two episodes a lot. We'll see how my feelings towards the season develop as I keep going.
I agree with this --> (I like episode 1-8, Doublemeat Palace, Hell's Bell, Normal Again, Dark Willow episodes) I didn't like the others I thought it went off key? I prefer the darker? )can't think of the word) episodes like when Faith went bad, Hush, etc I don't mean like Buffy depressed dark haha I'm going off topic but I think it could of done a lot better in my opinon, maybe they couldn't top up the big finale of season 5?
WileyDairyGnome
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I absolutely love this season, it's my favourite. Yes it's dark, but it's realistic, and beautifully done.
I love Spuffy, I love OMWF, I love Tillow, I love Willow's arc into Dark Willow, and I absolutely LOVE the finale and the parallel of Buffy crawling out of her grave thinking it was Hell, and then pulling herself out of the ground at the end and seeing the world as something beautiful. 😱
I love it so much.
I love Spuffy, I love OMWF, I love Tillow, I love Willow's arc into Dark Willow, and I absolutely LOVE the finale and the parallel of Buffy crawling out of her grave thinking it was Hell, and then pulling herself out of the ground at the end and seeing the world as something beautiful. 😱
I love it so much.
It isn't at the top of my list as far as ranking the seasons go, but I still love it. I prefer the show when it is light and funny and and isn't all doom all the time and there wasn't much of that in season 6. That having been said the themes of the season were really well dealt with and it was a logical progression after the events of season 5.
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I know I'm a few years late lol, but that can't be it, cause when Kendra died, Faith was called, so another slayer should've been called when Buffy died.
Except if maybe in the universe's mind, Buffy has already been replaced by Kendra, so she can't be replaced anymore .. I don't know man this is confusing!
When Buffy died in season 1, Kendra was called, and after her death, Faith was called and from there on the slayer line would move through Faith. Even tho Buffy still has her slayer abilities, she is no longer the current "chosen one".
Apparently, the ancient dudes that started the slayer line didn't think about the possibility of a dead slayer being resurrected after a few minutes so they didn't put a policy in place to hold off the calling of a new slayer for a good 20 minutes to make sure the current slayer was never coming back 🙂
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S6 is defintely one of the darker seasons in the whole series, but I actually enjoyed it more than I thought it would. I actually liked that it dealt with the big bads of the entire season basically being human instead of a demon like the previous seasons. It showed, in my opinion, that the potential for darkness exists within all of us, and only we can prevent it from coming out, or in Warren's case, let it flow freely out of us.
The only thing I did not like about the season as a whole was the Spike/Buffy relationship they showed *Spuffies, feel free to hate me, I won't blame you*. I absolutely hate the way he treated her in this season. She opened up to him about how she was in Heaven, and then he makes her feel like she came back wrong, basically making her feel worse than she already did. I won't even go into the attempted rape scene, because that alone is simply too painful to watch, much less think about. If there's one thing I truly hate with every inch of my being, its rape. It's not right, and it never will be.
Some episodes that I really liked from this season were: "Once More, With Feeling" 😛, "Normal Again", "Flooded", and "Grave"
The only thing I did not like about the season as a whole was the Spike/Buffy relationship they showed *Spuffies, feel free to hate me, I won't blame you*. I absolutely hate the way he treated her in this season. She opened up to him about how she was in Heaven, and then he makes her feel like she came back wrong, basically making her feel worse than she already did. I won't even go into the attempted rape scene, because that alone is simply too painful to watch, much less think about. If there's one thing I truly hate with every inch of my being, its rape. It's not right, and it never will be.
Some episodes that I really liked from this season were: "Once More, With Feeling" 😛, "Normal Again", "Flooded", and "Grave"
Robb Stark
King in the North
You know what the problem is with that scene, aside from it just being disgusting? It was a case of Joss thinking he's smarter than he actually is. I think from the way that things went from then on, about how the entire fallout from that scene was focused on Spike (as opposed to Buffy, you know, the person actually in the center of it), and not Buffy dealing with what happened, it's pretty clear that Joss Whedon has zero experience with rape.
As someone who has had to watch a a sibling go through this, the way it was portrayed in Buffy was not in anyway realistic. Buffy just pretty much forgets about it, Xander starts telling her off when he finds her (unless you're the biggest jackass in history, a friend would never do that, especially someone like Xander) and everyone moves on in about one or two episodes. That's not what happens, and it's actually a little insulting that it was presented as such.
Joss took the single most heinous crime a person can commit and turned it into a plot device. I'm not "mad" at Spike, he's a vampire without a soul, and as such is a completely different person then when he gets his soul back. All the things he and Angelus have done prove that. I have no issue with that. But this was one of the very few times where I was angry at what I was seeing on Buffy. I don't mind touching on serious topics, Buffy has done that before, as have many other shows. But to do so in such a sensitive area when it's crystal clear he has no understanding whatsoever about what rape can do to a person was beyond low.
That makes me angry.
Evil Angelus 95
Once again, I'm sorry to hear about your sister. No-one should ever have to go through that :(
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But Buffy isn't like any ordinary girl, she's actually stronger than Spike, so it's more like a storyline about a guy getting raped by a woman, which is usually less serious .. So I actually wouldn't have bought Buffy being all victimy as she wasn't actually raped, and she knows she never could've been, the only thing that was bothering her was the fact that Spike could actually do such a thing ..
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Jod
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I really enjoyed season 6... all the characters went through so much. poor buffy was confused and lost after her mum died in s5 and died herself, came back from heaven pfft just a few things to say the least. I enjoyed watching Buffy and Spikes relationship as it was all over the shop and dawn wasnt AS whiney as previous seasons. willow had her big moment as darkwillow and i thought it was sweet how giles was there to help with bills etc. and yeah sure i thought the double meat palace was quite quirky, i like. 🙂