Which is the better show?

Which show do you prefer?

  • Angel

    Votes: 13 28.3%

  • Buffy

    Votes: 30 65.2%

  • I like them both equally

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Total voters
    46
Carrie Hopewell

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@Guy seems to be convinced that the good people of the BB prefer Angel to Buffy or like both shows equally. I'm pretty certain that most people prefer Buffy and that some of you think of them as equals.

To prove that I'm right, I've decided to do conduct a poll. You don't have to comment if you don't want to, it's more of statistics kind of thing, though I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
 
GwenRaiden
GwenRaiden
Of course I did! But for which?! (only kidding, lawl)
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I chose Buffy because it was more tongue in cheek humour and I care about the characters more. Angel had some really strong episodes though such as Smile time.
 
I prefer Buffy. I think overall the writing and characters gelled better, and there was more of a point to the story.
 
For me Buffy is a better show because the characters are more relatable and it's funnier. Some of the characters on Angel are just a turn off for me, and what they did to Cordy is pretty unforgivable
 
Bluebird said:
Of course Buffy is preferred over Angel. Angel isn't an icon like Buffy is! And it's called Buffy Boards, not Angel Boards. 😉
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This.

Personally I prefer Buffy over Angel, but I know a few people who prefer Angel. To be honest, they're both quality programmes, so it's hardly a bad thing to like either.... 😀
 
Its Buffy by a country mile for me.

1. The writing of the characters and storylines are more consistent from week to week.

2. SMG gives one of the best performances EVER. DB is very good but he's not on the same level and doesn't have to go through the same level of changes. Also some people just don't engage with the broody nature of Angel they do with Buffy.

3. Its a clitche I know but Buffy was a very empowering show for females in a genre which very rarely does that.

4. There are more great episodes of Buffy than there are great episodes of Angel (though I will also admit that there are more weaker episodes of Buffy).

5. Buffy experiments with its format more and keeps things fresh. To me its the more ambitous of the two shows.

6. It engages me more on a emotion level. Though there are certain standout moments for Angel which really grab you.

Angel is an excellent show, but its not one of the great ever shows like Buffy IMO.

And to satsify the thread starter yes I believe more prefer Buffy🙂
 
There's also the cultural significance of Buffy. It has countless articles written about the themes and philosophy of the show. It's highly regarded amongst literary professors and whatnot. Just look at the Slayage talks. I know there's some crossover with Angel but it is mostly Buffy. It's part of our culture, it's been referenced on other TV shows. Angel has none of that prestige, and most people who haven't seen Buffy have still heard of it, even if it is just to scoff at it. Angel may as well not exist to people who haven't seen it.

I think that is reflected online too. Majority of the big discussions are based on Buffy.
 
Both shows are great and that all that matters 😀

Speaking of Angel, I noticed that we have some members who haven't really watched it, they should give it a shot 🙂
 
Maybe it's the fact that I don't watch that much TV, but I was never wowed by how progressive Buffy is: OMWF (it's a musical, I don't like musicals and there are thousands of them ), The Body (great episode but didn't seem revolutionary), Hush (also great and different, but that doesn't mean anything to me).

As for the feminism thing, when I first watched Buffy I could barely get through one episode without getting pissed off to the point of giving up on the show in its entirety. All because of the sexist stereotypes and whatnot. Buffy, in particular, upset me. When I found out that the show was 'feminist' I was like: why, because it has a female lead? I now know in what ways the show is supposed to be feminist, but I don't really see it. I don't even think it breaks gender roles. That might be, in part, because I'm from a younger generation, but I never found the show empowering (except for Chosen, and, in retrospect, that finale was also the opposite of empowering). I mean, the amount of crying she does over guys...so irritating. Lilah and Willow were always the more empowering females to me,

I don't connect with the Buffy characters, lots of them annoy me; I don't connect with the stories; as someone who was a teen a few years ago and as someone who is a young adult now, I don't understand how the show is relatable to this age group; and BtVS always seemed to lack depth imo.

I also never thought that she show kept things fresh. I thought it changed tone a lot, but Angel was more shocking and exciting.
 
I prefer Buffy. No slight on Angel as I enjoy it and rewatch them together but I'm much more invested in Buffy. I see Angel as very good and Buffy as great.

Carrie Hopewell said:
To prove that I'm right, I've decided to do conduct a poll.
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On a side note for the mods are we allowed to create threads and polls to taunt members when they're wrong? 😛
 
Carrie Hopewell
Carrie Hopewell
Of course we are ;)
Mr Trick
Mr Trick
I did wonder the same lol.
Carrie Hopewell said:
Maybe it's the fact that I don't watch that much TV, but I was never wowed by how progressive Buffy is: OMWF (it's a musical, I don't like musicals and there are thousands of them ), The Body (great episode but didn't seem revolutionary), Hush (also great and different, but that doesn't mean anything to me).

As for the feminism thing, when I first watched Buffy I could barely get through one episode without getting pissed off to the point of giving up on the show in its entirety. All because of the sexist stereotypes and whatnot. Buffy, in particular, upset me. When I found out that the show was 'feminist' I was like: why, because it has a female lead? I now know in what ways the show is supposed to be feminist, but I don't really see it. I don't even think it breaks gender roles. That might be, in part, because I'm from a younger generation, but I never found the show empowering (except for Chosen, and, in retrospect, that finale was also the opposite of empowering). I mean, the amount of crying she does over guys...so irritating. Lilah and Willow were always the more empowering females to me,

I don't connect with the Buffy characters, lots of them annoy me; I don't connect with the stories; as someone who was a teen a few years ago and as someone who is a young adult now, I don't understand how the show is relatable to this age group; and BtVS always seemed to lack depth imo.

I also never thought that she show kept things fresh. I thought it changed tone a lot, but Angel was more shocking and exciting.
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What sexist stereotypes? I can't think of any certainly not in the main cast. I'm not saying that over the course of seven seasons there weren't storylines or characters which fell into that. But overall I don't think the show did that.

Its about the context and the genre. In 1997 very few shows were putting females as their lead characters and even when they did they would be stereotypes. And Sci-Fi (or fantasy?) had a very bad track record for this. As for breaking gender roles? Well Buffy does that in the very first scene. It sets you up to believe that Darla is the helpless female victim adn then sweeps the rug out from under you. It sets Cordelia as the superfincial Queen B type but then she joins the Scoobies and gets to be way more smart, charming and funny than those characters are ever allowed to be. Willow is set up as the nerdy brain and has a fantastic and complex character arc from there. The point for me is that the show sets up stereotypes to subvert them later and so that they can develop those characters later. It gets overlooked how progressive maculinity is in Buffy but that's a different topic.

Well okay but Willow is a character on Buffy. And that is the point. Its not like you are being told than that Buffy represents all females, it gives a wide range of female idendities and that is part of what makes it a feminist show IMO. And don't forget Buffy as a character is very young at the start of the show and has to deal with a lot for someone of her age. In the later seasons she is far less concerned about guys.

Again this is just personal taste but I think in the first season alone there are a lot of realistic aspects about being young and growing up. Buffy's lack of relationship with her Dad for example, or how the show deals with High School bullys. Or Xander falling for Buffy and her trying to let him down in a gentle way.
 
Guy
Guy
What he said
Here's a great thing about Buffy that hasn't been mentioned here yet - its structure.

I watch a lot of serialized TV shows, and while that's great, it has become quite normal and generic today. And in the past, there were a lot of episodic TV shows, so that also feels very generic. With Buffy, however, Whedon found this perfect middle ground between episodic storytelling and serialized storytelling, where every episode is a satisfying story in itself, but the episodes all build to a highly satisfying finale. By contrast, season 1 of Angel was almost completely episodic (which is generic for old TV shows), and season 4 of Angel was almost completely serialized (which is generic for modern TV shows), which makes them seem less unique to me.

I also love how every season in BtVS was its own thing - at the end of every season, almost EVERY plot thread was wrapped up in an explosive finale, and almost nothing was left for future seasons. Every season had to start from scratch, when it comes to plot. The one thing that tied all the seasons together was the characters themselves, and that helped make the show very character-driven - and character-driven stories are the BEST stories. Angel, by contrast, always had trouble with creating satisfying season finales - season 1 had no Big Bad, season 2 switched Big Bads halfway through, and season 3 and 4 killed off their Big Bads one episode too early (although season 4 managed to create a pretty great finale regardless).
 
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