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I hold out hope that the office itself will keep him from going to far left. When your the president all eyes are on you and you can't blame other members in your branch of government.

Barrack has made alot of promises. Just in Illinois toward the southern area of the state, he has coal miners convinced he is going to help them with clean coal refineries...and has a record that supports that claim. At the same time, to those of more green concerned natures he says he'll destroy the coal plant industry by making it so restrictive with red tape and fines, that it would not be cost effective to have a plant operating.

Just in this example, we have two very different things. Maybe he'll try to please both parties and find a solution in the middle somewhere, greenhouse compliant, but still workable coal plants?

The office can steer you more than you steer it, and it sure can change a person. I hope he uses his natural charisma to bring sides together in compromise, not ramrod things down our throats.

Been there, done that, with our last pres. elect.
 
Well, regardless of who anyone was going for, we have a new President-elect and instead of feeling all down, we should raise our heads and hope that he does make good on his promises. I'm a Republican, so coming from me that's saying a lot. I do take issue with not being able to speak my opinions without being labelled a hater or a racist which seems to be the popular retort to anything I have to say which has nothing to do with race. I don't think he's a good choice and I do believe the mantra of 'change' is just a really fancy advertising slogan, but after all is said and done, there's no use in feeling down. America has spoken and it's voice heard. I just hope we're ready to deal with the fallout and that those that put him in office will actually put blame where it belongs if possibly things turn out not to their liking.

Having said that: Congrats to Obama... now when the dust settles and he actually has to step into office, let's hope this 'change' isn't just the fancy advertising slogan but rather something real and tangible.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
right on jed!
You know what really pisses me off is that a lot of the political pundits made this about race last night while the returns were coming in. One of them in particular (don't know the guy's name and don't care) went to great pains to mention the parallels.....that Obama will be sworn in as President in the 100th anniversary year of the NAACP. That his political career began in Springfield, IL, the site of the racial tensions that started the NAACP in the first place....etc., etc. Why is it even about that? It SHOULD be about whether he can do the job, and I'm of the opinion that he can't. I think he has great ideas, but I don't think he has the practical, real world experience to implement them. Not a "told you so" deal.....that's just how I feel. I guess we'll see......

Meant to add, also, we DID make history in this country, and for that I'm glad. Voters turned out in record numbers, which means to me that we're becoming more aware that WE have a say in our government. The days of apathy are over!
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
right on traffic! for many people (not all!) the race was about, race; it played a part. Moreso that views & opinions, the idea that America would 'show the world'
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And what was McCain doing? Having a pizza and chips?

And Palin was muttering the comment.... Ah McCain, you've done it again.
 
Well, I am holding out hope that Obama will be true to his political Chicago roots and say anything he has to say to get elected.
What an interesting thing to say, really.
If you talk about Chicago political roots you speak directly of the pulsing heart of American corruption, graft, union control, radicalism and racketeering with D.C. politics itself as second in line.

I am curious to see how the situation with American accounts in Swiss banks will play out.
If they release the names of the estimated 20k violators of tax fraud known just in the UBS bank that's a lot of people going to jail and a lot of money in the air.
Will it go on to other Swiss banks other than the current UBS litigation?
Will it go on to the Caymans as well?
Will it create legislation to prevent all offshore accounts by Americans?

Chicago politics in play may make this issue vanish off the radar completely.
Then again, if it turns out many of these names are Republican in origin it may be held as a convenient Democratic scapegoat and consolidation of Democratic power.
Hard to tell. It should be interesting to watch however as the result either way is going to have an impact on the economy.
 
When he inevitably doesn't live up to his 'Change' mantra, just simply the same guff rhetoric he has been spouting for nearly a year.

I have no doubt there will be some initial crowd pleasing 'seems big but actually pointless' changes made but when it gets to the big stuff, nothing will happen.

WELL AS HE SAID CHANGE ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT AL.


AND EVERYONE GO ON WIKIPEDIA AND PLEASE READ ABOUT HIM AND HIS MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. tHEN U CAN SAY WHAT U WANT.
 
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Well, I think he has a better chance to pull it off with a Democrat-controlled Congress....but I bet there's a LOT out there that don't want to be tainted by his leftist politics, too. They have their own careers to think about.
A comment that every single politican can make, since they don´t have crystal balls to see the future....
We don´t know about the economy, don´t know about other countries, wars, natural disasters etc etc etc
 
McCain had a very good, very gracious speech. It was awesome. I almost cried during it.

It was a good race. I'm not happy about the outcome, of course, but I can at least follow McCain's example and be gracious about it. Good game, guys. 🙂

Now, as to my thoughts as to what will happen. I think that there's a possibility of Obama being a pragmatist and governing from the center. I don't know how many waves he's willing to make. Hopefully he will try to please the majority rather than slamming leftist policies into everyone's face.

At the same time, with a Democrat controlled Congress, being a pragmatist could well mean slamming leftist policies into everyone's face what with the leftist leaning of Congress. Not to mention several "Republican" senators (Yes, my own Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins) end up Democrat more often than not.

The other thing that worries me is that there are no longer checks and balances. We have a Democrat president, a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate. We've very aging members on the Supreme Court, and the Democrat President is going to appoint leftist liberal SCt nominees, and the Democrat Senate is going to approve them.

I think that if you have the President one party, the other party should control at least the Senate. It provides for more checks and balances and a greater cooperation between two parties, more bipartisanship and a more central governing force.
 
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but isn't that why you often end up in stalemate?
A comment that every single politican can make, since they don´t have crystal balls to see the future....
We don´t know about the economy, don´t know about other countries, wars, natural disasters etc etc etc
That is why a platform of 'change' is a shaky stance to hold.

No one can promise change, for the very reason you said, Darling. That was my point. But he has said often that change will happen, now he says, but it might be longer than he has been elected President for before it happens. But if ever anyone had a green light to run this country as they see fit, it is him, now, this one moment. There can be no more excuses. He has full support of the hill.
 
i was very annoyed with SNL having on sarah palin one week and mccain the next...

/me is very happy and its nothing to do with colour... he's the next generation and thats what the world needs, not just america. anyone saying he got in for his colour is imo (and im right 🙂 ) is wrong
 
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Cordelia Chase*
i LIKE THE snl SKETCHES!!! eVEN WHEN THE REAL PALIN WAS ON. LOL
Airam
Airam
I am SO with you on the race thing!!!!
He also said it might not happen in his first term; a comment again I found very funny.

AS BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA STATED..THE ECONOMY CRISIS ISNT GOING TO BE FIXED OVERNIGHT. whY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT WHAT OBAMA SAID. eVERYONE IS PICKING THROUGH HIM AND HIS SPEECHES.
 
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No, we'd be doing the same thing if McCain had won. It's one of the beautiful things about being American, the absolute right to question our government.
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randiann
Hey I think you might have accidentally hit your caps button there.....
AS BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA STATED..THE ECONOMY CRISIS ISNT GOING TO BE FIXED OVERNIGHT. whY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT WHAT OBAMA SAID. eVERYONE IS PICKING THROUGH HIM AND HIS SPEECHES.

It's our duty to pick over what he said. If McCain was elected, I'd be advocating the same thing. You vote a man into office, YOU must keep him accountable. YOU must make sure that what he says and what he does are in accord with one another. You're not done just because the election is over. By voting in the election you are taking on the responsibility of not just CHOOSING your next president, but ensuring that he remains accountable for what he does and what he says. What Obama says is important because it will reflect on what he does.
 
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Cordelia Chase*
oF COURSE BUT EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT IT AS THEY ARE READY TO WATCH HIM FAIL.
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ckg927
There was a telling quote about this in yesterday's USA Today. One of the people they quoted for their cover story believed that Obama would be on a shorter leash than other incoming presidents.
I'm so incredibly happy! Me and my friends were up partying all night, everyone here at college's got Obama-mania! 🙂 *happy dances*
 
Airam
Airam
:)
AS BOTH MCCAIN AND OBAMA STATED..THE ECONOMY CRISIS ISNT GOING TO BE FIXED OVERNIGHT. whY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT WHAT OBAMA SAID. eVERYONE IS PICKING THROUGH HIM AND HIS SPEECHES.
I pick thru everyone. You want the long list of problems I have with McCain? Heck, Huckabee was (and is) my man, yet I still found him to be wrong on some issues.

Why is it a big deal about what Obama said? BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO BE THE PRESIDENT! Dont you think people should listen to his views on things and not just sound bytes and Wiki articles?
 
pEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO HIS VIEWS. ITS JUST CRAZY THAT MOST PEOPLE SEEMS ENRAGED OVER HIS WIN.

Do you agree with all of his views? Are there any you disagree with? I still dont understand how his policy on healthcare differs from Clintons.

Doesnt socialized healthcare both directly and indirectly affect the economy though?
 
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Cordelia Chase*
im not worried about that. Im worried about the economy. We have less workers because of it which puts more pressure on the ones that are left. WHich im sure its like that everywhere...but still
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