Biggest WFT moments

Angel turning evil. I think now it's a popular trope for the boyfriend in female-centred fantasy shows to turn evil at least once, but back then I did not expect that at all.

For Dawn's arrival or Willow turning evil, I was spoiled. So I don't count these.
 
I'm gonna have to add Riley using a plastic stake on Spike. I mean where did he even GET that? Is there some demon gag shop in Sunnydale?

Of course Spike shouldn't have been walking around at all after his vicious attacks that nearly got Riley killed, and his attempt to kill Buffy after, but that's another topic.
 
badsister
badsister
that was a dildo
thetopher
thetopher
A Buffy-themed one?
MarieVampSlayer
MarieVampSlayer
A demon gag shop would make a lot of money in Sunnydale! Anya should have openned one!
I'm gonna have to add Riley using a plastic stake on Spike. I mean where did he even GET that? Is there some demon gag shop in Sunnydale?
I figured it was something the Initiative used in training sessions. Though why he used it instead of just threatening Spike with an actual stake, I have no idea.
 
I'll take your Angelus' portrayal in TGIQ and raise you EVERYONE'S portrayal in TGIQ. It's a funny episode that I enjoy alot but I just assume that absolutely everyone is very very stoned.
Fair call. It was just worse for Angelus, to me. I've just come to expect Spike being treated like a joke. Aside from his first episode they almost never took him seriously as a threat. Angelus was the opposite. Even when they did not give him the best written storylines (season 4) everyone around him was treating him like the biggest threat going. I appreciated that. Then for some reason they decide to make him a punchline rather than a vicious manipulative psychopath for one episode.
 
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So many moments shocked me, but when I thought they were crazy...

like @Ethan Reigns said, Dawn being made out of Buffy's blood… like what? No seriously, what?

- Loan Shark guy, seriously, were they all very stoned?
- Connor and Cordy, what is happening!? I don't want to play anymore!
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Cordelia's Ascension - ehm, did I tune into the wrong show? What's happening? Are y'all crazy?
- Another vote for Spike as the Doctor - it was dumb, out of nowhere and then dropped. IF they were gonna go that route, they could've at least made it interesting and fleshed out. Like explaining how? What? Why? Huh?
-Giles leaving
-The sex scene in "Smashed" and also the Willow & Amy magics-up the Bronze in the same episode. What am I even watching?
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Buffy in "Gone" and the invisibility ray in the same episode (looks 100% lame even by the standards of its own time)
- Balcony scene in "Dead things" and Spuffy under the carpet sex in the same episodes. Like... why are they reasonably under the carpets… yeah, they have sex in "wacky" places, but how is under the carpets a wacky place... (I get it, they're trying to cover up SMG who had a no-nudity clause or something, but still, whose idea was it to go "let's have her under the carpet!? I want names!) Dawn's tantrum in the same episode when Buffy intends to go to the police… y'know what, actually, I'm just gonna say "Dead things" was a big WTF for me all together.
 
fauxindigo
fauxindigo
Most of your WTF moments are moments I love. :)
MarieVampSlayer
MarieVampSlayer
Never thought much about the carpet but now that you mention it, it is very odd!
These days I find it kinda hilarious, like all sex scenes in s6. Like is that even physically possible. With the zippers, skirts. height difference, I mean how, I mean...wtf.

Yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s supposed to be passionate but I get all distracted by the logistics of it😀
 
Fair call. It was just worse for Angelus, to me. I've just come to expect Spike being treated like a joke. Aside from his first episode they almost never took him seriously as a threat. Angelus was the opposite. Even when they did not give him the best written storylines (season 4) everyone around him was treating him like the biggest threat going. I appreciated that. Then for some reason they decide to make him a punchline rather than a vicious manipulative psychopath for one episode.
Oh I agree 100%. Spike had been comic relief for quite some time so we're used to that (even if his characterisation in that episode is still bizarre by Buffyverse standards) but what they reduced Angelus to was a complete WTF!

Yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s supposed to be passionate but I get all distracted by the logistics of it😀
I think the logistics of Smashed work out fine. The height difference is accounted for as you can see Buffy lifted higher up against the wall. It's the building destruction that gets me these days - it looks so fake! Boards and walls just do not crack in that way. The set design hasn't aged well and it's so obvious that it's artificial. I mean:

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Really?!

Spuffy under the carpet sex in the same episodes. Like... why are they reasonably under the carpets… yeah, they have sex in "wacky" places, but how is under the carpets a wacky place... (I get it, they're trying to cover up SMG who had a no-nudity clause or something, but still, whose idea was it to go "let's have her under the carpet!? I want names!)
Yeah that was a bit odd (though it's not a major wtf moment for me, more of an 'okkaaayyy...'). Did they start off on top of the carpet then crawl underneath - in which case, why? Or did they decide to do it under the rug - in which case, again, why?
 
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Taake
Taake
And I guess none of them was wearing underwear and Buffy’s maxi-leather skirt just slid up easily? 😋 Sorry. Not. Buying. It
Oh I agree 100%. Spike had been comic relief for quite some time so we're used to that (even if his characterisation in that episode is still bizarre by Buffyverse standards) but what they reduced Angelus to was a complete WTF!

The more I remember the episode (the Angelus thing is the first thing I remember) you're very right. Darla, Drusilla and Buffy (retcons don't count) were all just bizarre like you said.

So many moments shocked me, but when I thought they were crazy...

like @Ethan Reigns said, Dawn being made out of Buffy's blood… like what? No seriously, what?

- Loan Shark guy, seriously, were they all very stoned?
- Connor and Cordy, what is happening!? I don't want to play anymore!
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Cordelia's Ascension - ehm, did I tune into the wrong show? What's happening? Are y'all crazy?
- Another vote for Spike as the Doctor - it was dumb, out of nowhere and then dropped. IF they were gonna go that route, they could've at least made it interesting and fleshed out. Like explaining how? What? Why? Huh?
-Giles leaving
-The sex scene in "Smashed" and also the Willow & Amy magics-up the Bronze in the same episode. What am I even watching?
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Buffy in "Gone" and the invisibility ray in the same episode (looks 100% lame even by the standards of its own time)
- Balcony scene in "Dead things" and Spuffy under the carpet sex in the same episodes. Like... why are they reasonably under the carpets… yeah, they have sex in "wacky" places, but how is under the carpets a wacky place... (I get it, they're trying to cover up SMG who had a no-nudity clause or something, but still, whose idea was it to go "let's have her under the carpet!? I want names!) Dawn's tantrum in the same episode when Buffy intends to go to the police… y'know what, actually, I'm just gonna say "Dead things" was a big WTF for me all together.

Almost all of their sex scenes are impractical. If they were under the carpet were they lying on dirt? Is that what Spike meant by rolling in dirt? They were in the hole to get to the sewers so Spike could move around in the day, so probably dirt. Was there something blocking the sewer access smell? Also, did Spike ever remove the skeletons in their clothes from the crypt? Their sex life gets grosser the more I am thinking about it.

Yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s supposed to be passionate but I get all distracted by the logistics of it😀

I did not have these logistics questions back in the day.
 
The more I remember the episode (the Angelus thing is the first thing I remember) you're very right. Darla, Drusilla and Buffy (retcons don't count) were all just bizarre like you said.



Almost all of their sex scenes are impractical. If they were under the carpet were they lying on dirt? Is that what Spike meant by rolling in dirt? They were in the hole to get to the sewers so Spike could move around in the day, so probably dirt. Was there something blocking the sewer access smell? Also, did Spike ever remove the skeletons in their clothes from the crypt? Their sex life gets grosser the more I am thinking about it.

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They're lying on more rugs, as is visible in the scene. Mostly it's for the symbolic, I expect (and the no-nudity clothes for SMG): Buffy is literally sweeping her 'dirty little secret' under the rug.

As for the underwear issue, we know Spike doesn't wear any, and Buffy wore a thong, which is pretty easy to... pull aside.

Speaking of clothes, another wtf moment would be how Angel managed to get fully dressed while losing his soul - that makes for very amusing imagery.
 
In a good way, I'm going to go with Dawn. That had to be a confusing week on the chat rooms. In a bad way, Amy Season 6. There's a difference between being cross with someone, and going full heel turn bad guy. Also, she was a rat for three years, how does she have a drug dealer?
 
As for the underwear issue, we know Spike doesn't wear any, and Buffy wore a thong, which is pretty easy to... pull aside.

But the skirt! The skirt is in leather and super long
also same goes to the scene in The Bronze.
I still don't buy it! but then again I don't think I would've survived a porn version of any of this
 
They're lying on more rugs, as is visible in the scene. Mostly it's for the symbolic, I expect (and the no-nudity clothes for SMG): Buffy is literally sweeping her 'dirty little secret' under the rug.

As for the underwear issue, we know Spike doesn't wear any, and Buffy wore a thong, which is pretty easy to... pull aside.

Speaking of clothes, another wtf moment would be how Angel managed to get fully dressed while losing his soul - that makes for very amusing imagery.

That's good. Multiple rugs would account for it being described as "comfy".

What was the underwear issue?

I don't want to start down that rabbit hole. Did Angel put his socks on? Underwear? They weren't the wets clothes from the rain, were they?
 
Speaking of clothes, another wtf moment would be how Angel managed to get fully dressed while losing his soul - that makes for very amusing imagery.
I don't want to start down that rabbit hole. Did Angel put his socks on? Underwear? They weren't the wets clothes from the rain, were they?
I always assumed that there was more time between him waking up in pain and stumbling out into the alley than it seems on screen. The original shooting script has him actually sitting on the bed, holding his head in pain before moving off so it seemed to me that even from what we finally get in the episode, there was a steady increase in pain through which he was able to quickly put on some clothes and rush outside (I headcanon that was trying to get to Giles for help). I figured it would be a bit like someone feeling chest pains before a heart attack - you can feel the pain building before the actual attack comes on.

Taake And I guess none of them was wearing underwear and Buffy’s maxi-leather skirt just slid up easily? 😋 Sorry. Not. Buying. It
Like Cheese Slices says Spike didn't wear any underwear and Buffy's could easily be pulled aside. As for the skirt, it could have just been undone and pushed off completely - in the wider shots I think they use Spike's duster to cover the two of them up so I just figure the skirt's been taken off.
 
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Like Cheese Slices says Spike didn't wear any underwear

Spike must've worn underwear otherwise he's risking a very painful potentially serious injury every time he unzips his trousers (which is quite a lot during Season 6).
 
I want in on this riveting discussion on underwear. First, it takes a quick hand motion to pull your junk out of your pants. I never understood why some pants have holes at the front. Guiding your thing through there seems like a lot more work than simply pulling it over the hem. Second, I don't believe that Something About Mary-thing ever happens in real life. It has never happened to me, and I have forgotten to do my laundry more than once.
 
The "loan shark" has grown on me, but I admit when I first saw it I was thinking he belonged in that smuggler's dive on Tatooine with Hammerhead and the other aliens (and general Lucas aliens with their ridiculously stereotypical accents put onto aliens, many of whom look a bit like animal-human hybrids).

They could've made it awesome if they had a couple of the "gill men" (from season 2 ep "Go Fish") as bodyguards and enforcers. 😉

I did have a good visual in my mind, though, of Sunnydale PD slowing down, even shining a light on the shark-man, turning it off, and driving away muttering, "I saw nothing." 😀
 
The "loan shark" has grown on me, but I admit when I first saw it I was thinking he belonged in that smuggler's dive on Tatooine with Hammerhead and the other aliens (and general Lucas aliens with their ridiculously stereotypical accents put onto aliens, many of whom look a bit like animal-human hybrids).

They could've made it awesome if they had a couple of the "gill men" (from season 2 ep "Go Fish") as bodyguards and enforcers. 😉

I did have a good visual in my mind, though, of Sunnydale PD slowing down, even shining a light on the shark-man, turning it off, and driving away muttering, "I saw nothing." 😀

When it hit me, the joke was juvenile enough to cause crazed laughter. Loan shark. I still love it.
 
The "loan shark" has grown on me, but I admit when I first saw it I was thinking he belonged in that smuggler's dive on Tatooine with Hammerhead and the other aliens (and general Lucas aliens with their ridiculously stereotypical accents put onto aliens, many of whom look a bit like animal-human hybrids).

They could've made it awesome if they had a couple of the "gill men" (from season 2 ep "Go Fish") as bodyguards and enforcers. 😉

I did have a good visual in my mind, though, of Sunnydale PD slowing down, even shining a light on the shark-man, turning it off, and driving away muttering, "I saw nothing." 😀
I don't get the hate for the Loan Shark. Sure, it's silly, but the whole kitten poker thing is silly to begin with, and it's not the only over the top thing to ever happen on the show. I like him, he's got style.

I always assumed that there was more time between him waking up in pain and stumbling out into the alley than it seems on screen. The original shooting script has him actually sitting on the bed, holding his head in pain before moving off so it seemed to me that even from what we finally get in the episode, there was a steady increase in pain through which he was able to quickly put on some clothes and rush outside (I headcanon that was trying to get to Giles for help). I figured it would be a bit like someone feeling chest pains before a heart attack - you can feel the pain building before the actual attack comes on.

Makes sense. But then comes another wtf : does Buffy sleep through literally anything ?! How does she do it ? Can she teach me ?
 
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