Discussion of 8.11 "A Beautiful Sunset" - Released 02/06/08 (Dark Horse)

You're asking for fanwanks. Very well then...

So how'd she (Willow) know about Satsu?

She used her unique, adapted, Witchy senses to sense if true love was in the room. Kind of like a glamor. Whether, or not Amy could do the same thing isn't relevant. She wouldn't be looking for true love, and Satsu wasn't in the room even if she was.

How did Dawn get inside the castle? 😵

There are Dawn-sized entrances for special rooms. She's been inside the castle before.

How does Twilight see through his mask? It has no eye holes...

The mask is made of a special material which you can see out of, but can't see in, much like a 2 way mirror.

It can't be someone Buffy already knows, because she would recognise his voice

The amazing mask may also muffle. The unusual fonts they use when Twilight speaks suggest there's something special about his voice.
 
Spider-Man's mask technically has no holes, either, and he sees just fine.

That said, I just finished reading this issue and I liked it. But I'm having trouble with everyone's guessing about the Big Bad, mostly because it appears Twilight can fly. It's unlikely that anyone--except Willow--we've seen before could suddenly gain the ability to fly. But then, I missed the whole Satsu thing in #3, so what do I know?
 
Remember this from Bloodties...

ANYA: No. She couldn't, a witch at her level. She can only go airborne. (they stop walking and look at her) It's a thing. More flashy, impresses the locals, but it does take longer.

XANDER: Longer than what?

ANYA: Teleporting.
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Witches of a certain level can fly. Warren's flown with a jetpack of course, but that wouldn't really apply here, I don't think. Dracula flies in a sense. What was that flitty bat lady thing called in the Angelverse again, who knows where everything is hidden. Flight is not unknown in the Buffyverse.
 
I know it's not unknown, it just seems really out of character and a little . . . well, the word's not coming but it's something like "cheating" . . . for someone who hasn't been known for superpowers before to fly . . . like Xander.
 
But the face looked far too manly to be a woman, as did the body (though magic could change this for a woman, i guess).

And my whole thing was... who WOULD say a line like "itchy neck"? It seemed a Xander thing to say, but now that ive read so much of what you all have to say, im not so sure its him anymore.
 
LittleMissLikesToFight said:
But the face looked far too manly to be a woman, as did the body (though magic could change this for a woman, i guess).

And my whole thing was... who WOULD say a line like "itchy neck"? It seemed a Xander thing to say, but now that ive read so much of what you all have to say, im not so sure its him anymore.
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I think definitely not female due to the chauvanistic attitude. And I halfway think that the itchy neck thing was an excuse to TEASE US with an ALMOST-removal of the mask. That'd be just like Joss.
 
nerd4hire said:
You're asking for fanwanks. Very well then...

So how'd she (Willow) know about Satsu?

She used her unique, adapted, Witchy senses to sense if true love was in the room.
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And the fact that she can hear people thinking if she wants (and maybe even if she doesn't) would be a big help, too, betcha-by-golly!


nerd4hire said:
How does Twilight see through his mask? It has no eye holes...

The mask is made of a special material which you can see out of, but can't see in, much like a 2 way mirror.
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Or like those fabric murals you can put on a car window. From outside, they're opaque, but from inside, you can see through just fine.
 
Hmm k, just got my issue, might post now in case I burst with excitement while reading all your posts. Maybe excitement isn't the right word.. I enjoyed it, but didn't capture me the way Anywhere but Here did. Probably because shorter, less to decipher.
Love the Xander/Buffyness of course.. they are so clearly right for eachother. Renee spanee. But I'm really starting to like Satsu, I think she's great. I remember reading the first issue and it really seemed like Joss wanted us to notice her with all the little trinkets etc she had attached. What are we suppost to have noticed that Satsu did? Thought Jeanty mentioned that.. maybe that's another issue.

Other then that I mostly just have questions. What the heck is Twilight made of.. how does he know so much about Buffy... and everything. 'I'll not kill you now. My first gift is my last.' so he's saying his first gift -being not killing her?.. will be something he'll do again later...? He seems to think he's on the right side of things. Also as he's taking his mask off.. he kinda looses he's edge. Wonder if that suit he's wearing is what makes him indestructable.. and maybe it only works at twilight?
 
another great issue of buffy. i really liked the part where twilight almost revealed himself, but then didnt.

i also love the slayers partying with dawn.

cant wait to see what happens in the next arc!
 
I'm probably crazy, but I have a feeling Twilight is Riley. An experienced, slightly bitter, jaded Riley. A Riley who fought against many crazy things, probably lost his wife during one of those battles. A Riley that got "upgraded" again by an offshot of the Initiative. He's fighting for Humanity, and he thinks Buffy went too far.

Mike
 
Tranquillity
Tranquillity
i was hoping it would be Reilly too but had no reason to back it up - you're not crazy! thanks.
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Spike Angelus
I think its him too.
And I don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but it's now clear whose boots we saw dangling above the church back in issue 1.

Mike
 
does anybody remember anyone from BTVS getting decapitated? the itchy necy thing could be a reference to a scar or something.
 
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Allycat
Lilah Morgan?
nerd4hire
nerd4hire
Only Ubie, the Turok Han, but somehow I doubt he's Twilight. :)
Lyri said:
does anybody remember anyone from BTVS getting decapitated? the itchy necy thing could be a reference to a scar or something.
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Adam decapitated some random vamp, that's the only one i can remember and i seriously doubt it's him
 
I'm assuming the itchy neck is just Joss being Joss... probably teasing us because him scratching slowed him down taking off his mask. But Twilight has to be someone we know if Joss is playing with the reveal yes?
 
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FaithyFivebyFive
That's what I keep saying!
I have heard a lot of people speculating Riley or Xander, but I dont think its neither. I think twilight is going to be someone who we least expect.
 
I'm now thinking Angelus. I mean, if Angel isn't a Vamp anymore, what happens to Angelus. He's always there, somewhere. Soooo, it could be. Yet another one of my FAR FETCHED theories. I don't really have anything to back it up except a strange feeling. Plus, I mean, this whole issue was sorta focused the people that have been in love with Buffy and what has happened to them. Oooooh, now that I think about that, it could be Xander too. Hmmm, we'll see eventually.

Now, I just officially got a hold of this today and read it. This issue is quite possibly my favorite so far. I'll probably say that a few more times before this is all over with. I really liked the entire fight with Twilight. From the dialogue to the action. I also loved the conversation with Satsu and Buffy. Even if it does seem like Buffy is back into self pity mode. It almost feels like she and Angel totally switched places.
 
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Spike Angelus
Angel's not a vamp?!?!?! I need to catch up on ATF
I personally think it's almost kind of sad and a little redundant that Buffy still has that feeling of being alone and isolated. I thought the whole purpose of the ending of Season Seven was that she no longer has that isolation anymore, because she's no longer the Chosen One, now she's the Chosen Many and that's what that smile at the end signified, at least that's what I thought but apparently that's not so. I understand the saying that as a leader it's lonely at the top, but still.
 
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alexa
guess it's a longer journey
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Slayerfest 99
I thought the same thing too at the end of season seven.
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FaithyFivebyFive
This new self-pity and isolation seems to be more based on her love life.
It does feel a bit repetitive, but I guess I do understand why she, yet again, feels alone. I wish they would get that bit over with though and they'd focus on other issues.
 
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