Fan Art on the Board

[ILLYRIAN]

I have no problem with stating where I get the inspiration from when writing a fan-fic. Be it a story plot, or when I use a few lines.
When creating a picture, stating what method you use and where you get those methods from would, generally thinking, help others to make their art better.
As this is a family friendly site, saying thank you to the people who help you, even if they didn't know it, seems like the thing to do.

 

[Karol]

I don´t even have a gallery, but I´d like to so I think it´s better for to know the rules before anything!

Question: I have 3 or 4 years of material on my pc. In matters of images I have it all: promos, screencaps, mag scans. The tools too, brushes, textures, gradients, filters etc etc etc. And I honestly don´t know where they came from. I know the sites I visited, sure, and I can link them, but the archives don´t have the names on it, so I don´t don´t which gradient is from which site. The time I added all the stuff, my Photoshop just named 01, 02, 03, so it´s impossible to know for sure.
Can I just have a first post called "resources" like everyone does on their fanart sites?

 

[Buffy Summers]

You can have a first post called resources, that's fine, but just say when you post new stuff that uses those that that's what you're doing. Like "resources in first post" or something.

 

[Emzzie]

hey, I've been reading this thread since it started even though I'm no artist and I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in. No matter my opinion on if this is right or wrong, the mods are the bosses, this is their forum, they take time to run it for us and no matter how much you complain they ain't going to change it. If you dont like it, pick another Buffy-fan place to post your art. I think you can on Buffytube maybe? Or fanpop? If you are going to keep posting here, you just need to make the best of it and start writing down your sources. I know its a pain, but the mod's have the right idea and we just need to get used to it and move on.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

I guess I still dont understand the rules, as they seem to change. When it first started it said if you used another artists work in something you made you needed to have permission from them and link back, then it was just link back and if you couldnt provide a link it was best you didnt use the graphic, and now just list resources, then another one read 'if you have them' so I just dont know what is acceptable and what is not as far as the length to ensure the rule is followed and I dont get another infraction. I dont understand the purpose of the rule so I cant deduce what is flexible and what is not. I thought I understood the rule and what it was for, but CLEARLY I did not.

 

[Angelic Slayer]

I guess I still dont understand the rules, as they seem to change. When it first started it said if you used another artists work in something you made you needed to have permission from them and link back, then it was just link back and if you couldnt provide a link it was best you didnt use the graphic,

Whenever you're using another person's work in your art, yes: you want to ensure (as best you can) that the original artist is okay with you using their material. Often when an artist posts a resource or piece of art, they will have some kind of claimer saying whether or not they'd like their material to be reused.

If they ask that their resources not be reused; don't use it. If they have said that it's okay for others to use it, go ahead and cite the source when you post your artwork. If the site doesn't say anything, use your best judgment and cite the source when you post your artwork.

and now just list resources, then another one read 'if you have them' so I just dont know what is acceptable and what is not as far as the length to ensure the rule is followed and I dont get another infraction.

This means that ideally we want you to post links to any resources that you use in your fanart; but obviously that's an issue for some folks (as they have already saved resources on their computer and can't recall the original source). As a compromise, we ask that you post links to any resources that you can and if you run into a problem and don't know where something came from just indicate that. (As Buffy Summers mentioned, here)

As far as infractions go, you will be receiving 3 warnings about this rule before we will infract (as was stated in the first post).

I dont understand the purpose of the rule so I cant deduce what is flexible and what is not. I thought I understood the rule and what it was for, but CLEARLY I did not.

As Buffy Summers said, we have run into an increasing amount of issues with plagiarism on the board and wanted to make it clear to everyone what our rules are when you're using another person's artwork/sources.

And as has been mentioned before, crediting your sources is not only expected on many Fan Art sites but it's also a courtesy that you should show to the people who put time and effort into making those resources. We think it's only reasonable that we all do our best to give credit where credit is due.

I hope that cleared things up for you. If you have any further questions on the matter, please feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to answer any specific questions that you have regarding the new rules. 🙂

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Thank you, Angelic Slayer
I think (if I read what you said right- see your karma to assure) then it finally made sense, and if I am monopolizing this feel free to pm me.. but I think the lightbulb finally lite-up.

 

[Angelic Slayer]

Scobro agrees: Ohhh! so the getting permission and linking back is just for FANART, whereas the other bits, about listing resources and (optional) linking back is for 'normal' graphics?

No, sorry, I'll edit that to make it a little more clear.

But you should follow that procedure (the one I talked about in the first bit of my post) with anything you use to make your fanart. Whether you want to use a brush, a gradient, a font, a texture, an image (etc...) you always should do a quick check first and be sure that whoever made the resource hasn't asked for it not to be used.

Then, once you've established that it's okay for you to use the [brush/gradient/font/texture/image/ect]; feel free to put it in your artwork. Just make sure that you include a link to that [brush/gradient/font/texture/image/ect] in your resource list when you post the piece of fanart.

Does that make a little more sense? (If not perhaps it is best to head to PM's, in the interest of keeping the thread tidy 😉)

 

[Lyri]

When it first started it said if you used another artists work in something you made you needed to have permission from them and link back

When we said that, we meant, primarily, manipulations like this: Buffy Summers

You can use that image in your art work as long as you have explicit permission from me before you use it and you link back to my site when you post it.

For example:

Image: Buffy Summers manipulation by Lyri @ Seeing Red

If you DON'T have permission from me, or if I say no, DO NOT use the image. Simple.

This also counts towards wallpapers that other artists have made, don't hack them up into banners and icons. THAT'S the main stealing and plagiarism we're talking about.

For everything else, textures, brushes, gradients, as Angelic Slayer said, post the links you have. If you don't have the link for something, post the texture/stock, whatever, and maybe another artist can help you and your post can be edited. All we're asking for here is that you post the links you have.

 

[Karol]

You can have a first post called resources, that's fine, but just say when you post new stuff that uses those that that's what you're doing. Like "resources in first post" or something.

Thanks Buffy, this makes it a lot easier 🙂

 

[Skytteflickan88]

Btw, I wonder, would I be allowed to link to artwork here on the forum to my blog without asking for permission? Not re-posting, just linking (not hotlinking)?

And I'm not sure if this is okay either: To upload a piece of art to my blog (so people don't have to follow links) and leaving a link to the original site, without asking the artist? That seems to be more touchy.

 

[Lyri]

Btw, I wonder, would I be allowed to link to artwork here on the forum to my blog without asking for permission? Not re-posting, just linking (not hotlinking)?

And I'm not sure if this is okay either: To upload a piece of art to my blog (so people don't have to follow links) and leaving a link to the original site, without asking the artist? That seems to be more touchy.

No.

Please, if you are posting ANYONE'S artwork to ANY site, either this one or a personal blog, you MUST ask permission from the original artist. You might not be stealing it, you might be linking back to the original artist and/or site, but there could be other people visiting your site who might not be so honest as you. If the artist knows where their work is going and it does get stolen, then it'll be easier to find the culprit if the artist knows where to look.

 

[Skytteflickan88]

I see what you're saying, that my linking to things make them easier to find and be stolen. I didn't really think about that, since I've always known art could be stolen, but that there was easier ways. I didn't consider that some ways of posting made it easier.

I'm waying the bad "Art is easier to steal" vs the good "Great art should be shared (as long as credited)".

I guess I have to hope that most great art online that I find, has a guestbook or comment function so I can ask people when I link, so I don't have to risk angering someone.

 

[Lyri]

I guess I have to hope that most great art online that I find, has a guestbook or comment function so I can ask people when I link, so I don't have to risk angering someone.

Most sites, like mine, will have a tag board where you can ask, or an option to contact through email, so there should be no trouble finding a way to ask permission.

It's just nice for an artist to be informed as well, we like to know that our work is being appreciated enough for someone to post it to show others.