New Buffyverse series on Audible with a focus on Spike

[Dracula]

A really overrated excuse for a movie that relied on fan service to make you think it was better than it was?

You have a point there but Star Wars itself was never as good as Buffy.

A New Hope is a copy of the Japanese movie The Hidden Fortress from 1958 with some recreated WW2 dogfights at the end.
Episode VI is terrible with its teddies and only has a great end part.
Even my favorite "The Empire Strikes Back" is a bit overrated.

Compared to Episode VII - IX Rogue One feels like a masterpiece (although it isn't that great).

 

[Cyberdemon]

I'm surprised there's not a single thread about it mentioned here. All I can say is, Meh? I seriously don't understand how SMG can be in three failed TV shows, one of which is the exact same genre, and still be so against buffy. Yet she has also said she thinks an animated series would be cool. It's not like she hasn't already been on TV a ton since Buffy. This audio series honestly just sounds ridiculous to me. Also Cordelia...? She's dead, don't make some stupid excuse that shes an alternate dimension Cordy.

edit: Sorry i just saw the other thread. This site is kinda confusing.

 

[Cyberdemon]

I have a strong feeling this is going to be awful

I’d like to preface this by saying I fully support Charisma Carpenter in what she says about Joss but I have a feeling this is going to be horribly indulgent romanticised Cordelia stuff

Geeze I never even thought they might have a romance going on between her and Spike. FFS. It being audio-only is just a terrible idea to begin with. An animated Series right about now would've been amazing but i guess this is the best they can do...

 

[Bop]

Geeze I never even thought they might have a romance going on between her and Spike.

Imo they would have done Spike the vampire slayer if that could make a shred of sense.

 

[Cyberdemon]

Imo they would have done Spike the vampire slayer if that could make a shred of sense.

Spike and Cordelia together 20 years later just makes no ****ing sense to me, lmao.

 

[November]

I'd tune in 🙂 read enough of the books and fanfic for this to be at least as entertaining, but with real voices instead of just the voices in my head.

 

[TheMaster666]

I've not watched enough of Angel to know how Spike comes back, but I'm pretty sure Buffy ended with the spirit of the Slayer somehow being transferred to every girl in the world, or something like that. I thought that was a pretty stupid ending, but since it's the last episode, it's not like it should matter, right? Well if they're going to do something set post-finale, does that mean every female cast member is her own "Buffy" now?

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Geeze I never even thought they might have a romance going on between her and Spike. FFS. It being audio-only is just a terrible idea to begin with. An animated Series right about now would've been amazing but i guess this is the best they can do...

Eh...doesn't bother me. I've listened to a few of the Big Finish audiodramas.

I imagine this is something of a test run. Studio execs at Disney are eager to milk the Buffy IP in some shape or form, but they're waiting for the bad publicity surrounding Joss Whedon to cool down, perhaps. So this I imagine is a relatively low budget way to see how popular the IP remains, whether a new tv show is worth investing in.

 

[Bop]

Well if they're going to do something set post-finale, does that mean every female cast member is her own "Buffy" now?

No someone can only be a slayer if they're born a potential, the show ended with every potential in the world becoming a slayer, and I think there's like under 5,000 slayers in the world.

 

[TheMaster666]

Star Wars itself was never as good as Buffy.

Bold words, there.

I beg to differ. Star Wars is (err...was, before Disney anyway) the most instantly recognizable and universally beloved series of all time, and for good reason. You are grossly oversimplifying it.

I rewatched the original Star Wars (Ep IV) a month or two ago, viewing the famous Harmy's DeSpecialized Edition, as I'd never seen that cut before. Last time I saw the original trilogy was over a decade ago when I was probably an 11 year old kid. Seeing them now through the eyes of an adult gave me only further appreciation for the movie.

I love the famous scene in the Cantina bar with Han vs Greedo, as it's very inspired by western films of the 60s. In the Special Edition, Han shooting at near the same time gives a duel "high noon" vibe, but the original where he just shoots first and Greedo never gets a chance to fire feels more like the famous scene in "The Good the Bad and The Ugly" where he says, "If you're gonna shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

In terms of soundtrack and special effects, it is simply legendary. Industrial Light and Magic was invented, and many of the techniques used in the film were invented so that George Lucas could achieve his vision.

It launched the careers of some of Hollywood's greatest giants.

And there's an inescapable optimism about the film, a sense of fun and adventure, despite the dark times we live in. That was a message that not only is universally resonant across all times, but was especially timely in the 70s, following Vietnam and the Watergate scandal, in a period of inflation and corrupt or ineffectual leaders, when the prevailing trend in Hollywood was similarly dystopic films about depressing circumstances.

Star Wars is A New Hope. Not just for the galaxy, but for humanity.

 

[TheMaster666]

I'm surprised there's not a single thread about it mentioned here. All I can say is, Meh? I seriously don't understand how SMG can be in three failed TV shows, one of which is the exact same genre, and still be so against buffy. Yet she has also said she thinks an animated series would be cool. It's not like she hasn't already been on TV a ton since Buffy. This audio series honestly just sounds ridiculous to me. Also Cordelia...? She's dead, don't make some stupid excuse that shes an alternate dimension Cordy.

edit: Sorry i just saw the other thread. This site is kinda confusing.

If you spent 7 years of your life doing one particular role, especially for her she was the leading lady, it's understandable why you wouldn't want to go back to that again, except maybe as a temporary reunion sort of affair.

 

[Cyberdemon]

If you spent 7 years of your life doing one particular role, especially for her she was the leading lady, it's understandable why you wouldn't want to go back to that again, except maybe as a temporary reunion sort of affair.

I mean, it's the role that helped her grow to fame. First, it's I don't want to be typecast, then it's OK, and an animated series would be cool. now it's literally something identical to buffy (the Wolf Pack) but not Buffy.

tl;dr if thats the case, why is she ok with playing the same role if it's animated? lol

 

[alrightwithmoo]

Maybe they didn't offer enough money. Maybe she read the premise and thought it stupid.

Sarah has said before and back during the Anderson reboot talks that you can't have Buffy without Joss. Whatever backstage or personal problems that were there, it's the truth.

 

[Btvs fan]

Bold words, there.

I beg to differ. Star Wars is (err...was, before Disney anyway) the most instantly recognizable and universally beloved series of all time, and for good reason. You are grossly oversimplifying it.

I rewatched the original Star Wars (Ep IV) a month or two ago, viewing the famous Harmy's DeSpecialized Edition, as I'd never seen that cut before. Last time I saw the original trilogy was over a decade ago when I was probably an 11 year old kid. Seeing them now through the eyes of an adult gave me only further appreciation for the movie.

I love the famous scene in the Cantina bar with Han vs Greedo, as it's very inspired by western films of the 60s. In the Special Edition, Han shooting at near the same time gives a duel "high noon" vibe, but the original where he just shoots first and Greedo never gets a chance to fire feels more like the famous scene in "The Good the Bad and The Ugly" where he says, "If you're gonna shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

In terms of soundtrack and special effects, it is simply legendary. Industrial Light and Magic was invented, and many of the techniques used in the film were invented so that George Lucas could achieve his vision.

It launched the careers of some of Hollywood's greatest giants.

And there's an inescapable optimism about the film, a sense of fun and adventure, despite the dark times we live in. That was a message that not only is universally resonant across all times, but was especially timely in the 70s, following Vietnam and the Watergate scandal, in a period of inflation and corrupt or ineffectual leaders, when the prevailing trend in Hollywood was similarly dystopic films about depressing circumstances.

Star Wars is A New Hope. Not just for the galaxy, but for humanity.

Agreed the pre Disney Starwars stuff is legendary and pretty timeless.
It's why people still watch Disney Starwars, even though it's terrible, and it's blatant they've milked it to death because of the vague hope that Timeless Quality of what came before will come back.

 

[hoponlilmama]

Geeze I never even thought they might have a romance going on between her and Spike. FFS. It being audio-only is just a terrible idea to begin with. An animated Series right about now would've been amazing but i guess this is the best they can do...

I don't think they'll put a romantic angle on this audible series.

Seems like this announcement has had a mixed reaction. I lean towards the 'I'm excited' camp. Not going in with high expectations, but I'll keep my full judgement aside until I hear the whole thing.

 

[Hunga Munga]

I'm in the 'secretly excited but afraid of being hurt again' camp 😉 .

I do know I won't be paying for audible for 2 months to listen to it , so I may have to exercise a bit of patience when it starts dropping . Prime are usually throwing audible deals/trials around so there's hope .

 

[hoponlilmama]

I'm in the 'secretly excited but afraid of being hurt again' camp 😉 .

I do know I won't be paying for audible for 2 months to listen to it , so I may have to exercise a bit of patience when it starts dropping . Prime are usually throwing audible deals/trials around so there's hope .

I think there's currently a free trial for new customers?

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Spike and Cordelia together 20 years later just makes no ****ing sense to me, lmao.

But it's not Spike and Cordelia as Cordelia is dead. It's Spike and AltCordelia. We don't really know who AltCordelia is.

 

[Taake]

I'm curious how they'll explain whatever Buffy and Angel are up to. They'll have to give Buffy a cursory mention at least? She's been kind of significant for Spike after all. If it is "in universe", will they acknowledge comic book canon or just pretend like none of that happened? Might get convoluted to explain. Spike has gone "deep undercover" in L.A., but when in the canon will it be set I wonder.

Also, I don't get Spike and Cordelia romance vibes from this:


The Slayers story begins as Spike has gone deep undercover in Los Angeles, convincing the forces of darkness that he's back to his evil ways. But when his cover is compromised by 16-year-old Indira Nunnally (Hayes), Spike finds himself on baby-slayer-sitting duty once more. While he attempts to track down a watcher for his eager new protégé, their paths collide with the veteran Slayer of a parallel reality where Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar) never existed, and Cordelia Chase (Carpenter) is the one-and-only Slayer. And Cordelia needs Spike's help with a classic big bad terrorizing her world... his old flame, Drusilla (Landau).

 

[Skanky Vamp]

I don't get Spike and Cordelia romance vibes from this:

Come on. The part about Cordelia needing his help? Anytime any female on either show needed his help there was always a romantic vibe to it. That's just canon.

 

[alrightwithmoo]

I'm curious how they'll explain whatever Buffy and Angel are up to. They'll have to give Buffy a cursory mention at least? She's been kind of significant for Spike after all. If it is "in universe", will they acknowledge comic book canon or just pretend like none of that happened? Might get convoluted to explain. Spike has gone "deep undercover" in L.A., but when in the canon will it be set I wonder.

Also, I don't get Spike and Cordelia romance vibes from this:


The Slayers story begins as Spike has gone deep undercover in Los Angeles, convincing the forces of darkness that he's back to his evil ways. But when his cover is compromised by 16-year-old Indira Nunnally (Hayes), Spike finds himself on baby-slayer-sitting duty once more. While he attempts to track down a watcher for his eager new protégé, their paths collide with the veteran Slayer of a parallel reality where Buffy Summers (Sarah Michelle Gellar) never existed, and Cordelia Chase (Carpenter) is the one-and-only Slayer. And Cordelia needs Spike's help with a classic big bad terrorizing her world... his old flame, Drusilla (Landau).

Supposedly it's 10 years post-show and ignores comic canon.

Since when was Spike ever on slayer-sitting duty, anyway?

Come on. The part about Cordelia needing his help? Anytime any female on either show needed his help there was always a romantic vibe to it. That's just canon.

Dawn and Fred.