Season 6 is underrated

[Cheese Slices]

I love season 6. It's the first season I've watched and the one that got me hooked. It has issues writing/plot wise (but then every season does), but the characterization, acting and overall atmosphere and depth are utterly compelling.
Also agreed with whoever said they enjoyed DMP. It manages to convey depressive feelings and monotony so well that I can forget the weird ass MOTW.

 

[Ethan Reigns]

Ah, DMP means Double Meat Palace, not Dead Man's Party - I wondered why that had come up in a discussion of Season 6.

 

[thrasherpix]

I had to budget carefully and get the Buffy dvds on sale which was a major purchase for me at the time. I didn't relate to the money troubles on season 6, though I had more money troubles than them. My impression is that the writers can't understand poverty on a gut level and it shows.

And soul crushing jobs exist at all levels of wealth. As a rule of thumb the more you make the more you'll have to spend (and wow does psychiatry make a killing targeting those people, among others) and the more dependent (like on health insurance that you automatically lose with the job so when you really need it the most you won't have it anymore). Statistically speaking, lawyers and social workers have a higher rate of suicide than people working fast food, though maybe no one cares enough to count fast food workers.

Likewise, people can have very little but still be content and happy (though such people tend to either inherit or find alternatives, like creating a cob home for under a thousand dollars rather than taking out a loan to buy a mchouse) while being poor because to them money really doesn't matter, their simple (and free) joys are more than enough to sustain their souls. Granted, they're unlikely to have the really nice homes or cars or phones, but they don't want them. To them a cage of gold is still a cage and they rather be free.

That said, I never worked fast food, and almost never eat fast food (unless you count Subway, and even that's rare). I've heard horror stories of it (including someone with a college degree forced to work there) and it amazes me that the way they treat employees (and some of the other shenanigans) are even legal. Once on a road trip we stopped at a fast food place in I think Arizona and though the plan was to eat inside it was way too hot for that. They weren't allowed to use AC. I stood there a long time holding the door open to let the hot air out out of pity for the employees (when it was already hot outside, being summer, but not as hot inside). Maybe if I'd worked there then s6 would've been a bit more relatable.

And for me, though I struggled with finances, life got better in my 20s. I think that comes with another difference from writers: I didn't get much handed to me as a child and then have the magic carpet yanked from under my feet a little after 18. And though there is much badness in the world (and people keep telling me I'm too cynical), I see it as a mistake to equate grim-dark with realistic, the same way if every day was a hailstorm the way season 6 felt to me, as do many shows trying to be "realistic." (Even thematically it can make viewers numb if there aren't serious breaks in all of that, though maybe that's what they were going for.) I can get how season 6 FEELS real to some people, but it's just too easy to nitpick it to death for me, and I prefer it as metaphor rather than trying to figure out if it's (on the nose) metaphor or realism.


The drug stuff was still a bit too Reefer Madness to me. As my saying this in the past has been misconstrued as my saying "recreational drugs are good" I'll clarify in that they're not. One reason I dislike Reefer Madness drug "education" is because it causes many to discount the real dangers of drugs along with the fake ones, and season 6 was Beer Bad silly (which was good for an episode, but not a season) trying to be scary, but not working for me.

I still think it could've been a good story line, but it should've been actual drugs made with magic (that Willow took to give her the extra power to bring back Buffy, but found, like drugs with the pleasure center of the brain, that the more one takes the less one can do on one's own creating a vicious cycle as her magic, her identity, became dependent on the magic crack) rather than magic itself as a drug (especially after how it was portrayed in s4 and 5).

Also, if it worked that fast as it did on Willow (making her a stereotypical junkie walking back alleys at night and stealing cars after a hit or two) then they should've been specifically cursed drugs since there's no market value in that (hello Ethan Rayne...).

But I prefer the idea of hubris and corruption (Willow going the same way as Faith who thought her abilities put her above everyone else) rather than drugs, or alternately, she started calling upon a specific demon for extra power that was corrupting...and changing...her as well as addicting her, and in this case Tara's warnings (who had been encouraging her before this, insecure moment aside in s5) would've made more sense.


I have mixed feelings on the Spike thing. If season 7 had gone very differently I think I might've actually appreciated season 6 in this regards, even the most controversial stuff.

I did love the first 2 episodes (best season opener IMO, at least neck to neck with season 1), and also the ep where an evil spirit plagues them (I remember Dawn spitting fire at one point). And it wasn't that bad overall, though I definitely see it as a sharp dip from previous seasons. But I don't like hearing it's because I need it all fuzzy or never had real problems for not liking it as much as previous seasons. Season 7 is the only one I really loathe (and made me dislike season 6 even more than I had before).

 

[Mr Trick]

Season 6 improves for me over time. Its still probably lower down the list if I'm ranking seasons, but part of that is because of the overall quality of Buffy as a show. It has a really strong start (some underrated episodes in the first half, After Life and Life Serial for example). The middle half with the Willow drug magic addiction stuff is really rough (even then you're only talking about 3-4 episodes at the most). It ends on a high for me. The Dark Willow trilogy is a fantastic way to end the season. Its another emotional high.

 

[Buffythehero]

I like season 6 more then 7 purely because it upsets me when all the scoobys kick buffy out of her own house, I mean
1.the world could of ended, buffy would of never deserted them when the world could be ending, that could of been the last time they ever saw buffy
2. That season Giles told buffy she needed to step up and be a general and make the hard decisions, so she did and then suddenly everyone’s questioning why she gets to be a leader. I get that what happened in dirty girls was bad, but thats war people die
3. I think buffy earned the right to be leader, she had put others first endless times, saved the world countless times
I really disliked anya in that scene

Anyway...I think if season 6 didn’t have vampires or demons, and the show had a really artsy name it would of won awards and been critically acclaimed; because I know it’s never stated that buffy has depression, but I think this season is a good portal of mental illness... i mean I think it’s done a better job then some movies and shows that’s suppose to be about mental illness.

I felt buffy was slowly cutting herself off from everything and everyone and stoped trying to live. I felt like she lost her self worth, and started to punish herself for example, I think part of the reason she let her self sleep with spike is because she stopped caring about herself.

She offered her self to the demon guy in the musical episode to go and live in hell with him and I feel if this would of happened in s2 she would of just fought him. But, it was like she was fine with going to hell
She was happy to be made invisible

Buffy obviously had a lot of grief and trauma, she died twice, killed the love her life finally accepted he was gone then he came back, then he left again. Tried to get over him, slept with Parker, he left, Riley slept with faith in her body, her mom died, her dad was non existent.

I’m not a fan in the seeing red, but I think that’s the moment buffy really decides she’s worth something and that she wants to live, hence her speech later about showing the world to dawn.

I’ve always found the scene with buffy and Tara heart breaking to watch, buffy so badly wanted to be told she came back wrong so then she could be fixed and have an explanation why she felt the way she did. I think she thought if she came back wrong that there wouldn’t be nothing truly wrong with her and they could just do a spell and get rid of what ever was on her. But, she found out there was nothing wrong, and she was intact; herself. I would of loved to have seen more of buffy and Taras friendship.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

And for me, though I struggled with finances, life got better in my 20s. I think that comes with another difference from writers: I didn't get much handed to me as a child and then have the magic carpet yanked from under my feet a little after 18. And though there is much badness in the world (and people keep telling me I'm too cynical), I see it as a mistake to equate grim-dark with realistic, the same way if every day was a hailstorm the way season 6 felt to me, as do many shows trying to be "realistic." (Even thematically it can make viewers numb if there aren't serious breaks in all of that, though maybe that's what they were going for.)

For me, Season 6 was about the writers making Buffy as miserable as they could by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her then throwing the sink for good measure. Everything went to hell for Buffy once Dawn came along and the message seems to be "life turns to crap once you turn 20" and I don't think that's realistic at all.

and in this case Tara's warnings (who had been encouraging her before this, insecure moment aside in s5) would've made more sense.

Agreed. By making magic a "drug", it retroactively makes Tara Willow's pusher since she was encouraging Willow to try harder magic in Season 4. However in Season 4, magic was a metaphor for Tillow's blossoming relationship.

I did love the first 2 episodes (best season opener IMO, at least neck to neck with season 1), and also the ep where an evil spirit plagues them (I remember Dawn spitting fire at one point).

If only Season 6 had maintained the quality it started out with.

I felt buffy was slowly cutting herself off from everything and everyone and stoped trying to live. I felt like she lost her self worth, and started to punish herself for example, I think part of the reason she let her self sleep with spike is because she stopped caring about herself.

Spike was Buffy's drug. She felt good when she was doing him, but then afterwards she'd feel shame about her actions yet she just couldn't stop going back for more. Her troubles really started taking hold when Spike no longer wanted to be her dirty little secret then started trying to take control of the relationship eg turning up at the house etc.

I’ve always found the scene with buffy and Tara heart breaking to watch, buffy so badly wanted to be told she came back wrong so then she could be fixed and have an explanation why she felt the way she did. I think she thought if she came back wrong that there wouldn’t be nothing truly wrong with her and they could just do a spell and get rid of what ever was on her. But, she found out there was nothing wrong, and she was intact; herself. I would of loved to have seen more of buffy and Taras friendship.

Coming back "wrong" gave Buffy "permission" to engage in her behaviour, it was her excuse. When Tara told her that she didn't come back wrong, suddenly that permission was taken away and Buffy had no excuse for doing what she was doing and she couldn't deal with that fact. Buffy fears of being judged negatively by the scoobies and, given Xander's reaction to Anya and Spike sleeping together (despite it being none of Xander's business and he was totally out of line), that fear was well founded. When Buffy turns invisible, she is touching Spike up even though Xander is stood right there and Spike is trying to lie, because she can't be seen therefore she can't be judged.

Buffy has agency in Season 6 and chooses to make bad choices, it's not a case of big bad Spike taking advantage of poor little Buffy. It was a mutually unhealthy relationship and BOTH participants suffered as a result of it.

 

[Zenseem]

Most of my mixed feelings about season 6 comes from a place of disappointment considering how much better it could've come out if they didn't focus on making Buffy's life so miserable just so they could go "hey, even if life is shit and you've been ripped out of heaven you can always just get thrown in a pit with your key sister and it'll all work out in the end".

I guess I just expected more. It's definitely not the show's worst season *cof* season 7 *cof*, but I thought there would more than just pushing Buffy to her lowest just for the sake of exploring some darker themes. I could've been handled better and in a way that left us with the darker vibe we already got to see from season 6 and at the same time a glimpse of hope and light (but that's just my optimistic ass talking).

 

[Altoz]

Hmmm. I'd have to say that there were aspects of Season 6 that turned me off. So okay, Spike is seriously hot, but did he have to end up bonking Buffy? I realise that her moral compass was slightly off when she was resurrected... although I can't fault the resurrection itself. And, contrary to some other reviewers, I liked the unexpected realism- Willow and Tara's merging problem is common within some lesbian relationships. I did tend to be slightly irritated by the Xander/ Anya relationship, true. This is to take nothing away from Emma Caufield at all- that woman is a brilliant comedic actress and I was genuinely sorry to see Anya's death at the end of "Chosen." There were some excellent episodes, particularly Allyson's portrayal of Willow as her character became darker and more powerfrul. However, like a lot of other LGBT Buffy fans, I got seriously pissed off when Warren's bullet went astray and killed Tara. Hooray, girl meets girl, girl falls in love with oher girl and then one of the couple is crushed beneath a convenient falling piano. And no, it wouldn't have been any better if it had been Oz, either, as apparently Joss had originally planned to happen if Seth Green hadn't left the series for pastures filled with mechanised poultry. And then there's the "dramatic neccessity" argument, suggesting that given that Willow had violated a fundamental natural law by resurrecting Buffy, and 'had to pay for it.' And Darkwillow's rampage as her character reached her moral nadir was awesome to watch. But... was it inevitable and did it have to be Willow? What if it was Buffy instead? What if Tara wasn't the one who died? What if it were Xander instead? What would that have done to Anya? Or Buffy or Willow, losing their stable moral compass?

 

[NothingVentured]

I like season 6 more then 7 purely because it upsets me when all the scoobys kick buffy out of her own house, I mean
1.the world could of ended, buffy would of never deserted them when the world could be ending, that could of been the last time they ever saw buffy
2. That season Giles told buffy she needed to step up and be a general and make the hard decisions, so she did and then suddenly everyone’s questioning why she gets to be a leader. I get that what happened in dirty girls was bad, but thats war people die
3. I think buffy earned the right to be leader, she had put others first endless times, saved the world countless times
I really disliked anya in that scene

All of that is the point of Season 7. None of it is OOC. Giles leads the charge, Xander was just injured and Willow is passive as always. When Giles says Buffy needs to step up her game, he means act in a way he thinks she should because he thinks he knows everything. Giles has gone against her before like in The Gift. He was set to go against all of them in S3 before Oz ended the discussion about destroying the box vs getting Willow back. It's shown in his dream what he actually thinks of Buffy.

Contrary to fandom opinion, Buffy never thought much of herself as a person. She always says she does what she does because she was chosen, but it was debunked many times. She does not feel she deserves the title of Slayer. That is what S6 is all about. S7 is about proving otherwise.

 

[AurelWillow]

Season 6 is my favorite (with season 5). It is a much darker season which deals with the problems of life. Ironically this is the only season without crossover with Angel and yet I find the tone of this season 6 very close to ATS. A very underrated season, I think.
I love this season so much. For me it's the last good season of Buffy (yes I don't like season 7, maybe I explain that one day).
I find Willow's arc in season 6 is the best of all the Buffyverse. And the final was the best in my opinion. I love the "Yellow Crayon" speech when Xander saves Willow and I cry everytime I see this scene (especially when Willow cries). Willow is my favorite character and I love that we see a much darker side of her. In my opinion the ending of season 6 was a perfect ending (I know there is a cliffangher with Spike).

 

[katmobile]

Season 6 is my favorite (with season 5). It is a much darker season which deals with the problems of life. Ironically this is the only season without crossover with Angel and yet I find the tone of this season 6 very close to ATS. A very underrated season, I think.
I love this season so much. For me it's the last good season of Buffy (yes I don't like season 7, maybe I explain that one day).
I find Willow's arc in season 6 is the best of all the Buffyverse. And the final was the best in my opinion. I love the "Yellow Crayon" speech when Xander saves Willow and I cry everytime I see this scene (especially when Willow cries). Willow is my favorite character and I love that we see a much darker side of her. In my opinion the ending of season 6 was a perfect ending (I know there is a cliffangher with Spike).

I like season seven but apart from that you make some good points.

 

[Honoria Dedlock]

However, like a lot of other LGBT Buffy fans, I got seriously pissed off when Warren's bullet went astray and killed Tara. Hooray, girl meets girl, girl falls in love with oher girl and then one of the couple is crushed beneath a convenient falling piano. And no, it wouldn't have been any better if it had been Oz, either, as apparently Joss had originally planned to happen if Seth Green hadn't left the series for pastures filled with mechanised poultry. And then there's the "dramatic neccessity" argument, suggesting that given that Willow had violated a fundamental natural law by resurrecting Buffy, and 'had to pay for it.' And Darkwillow's rampage as her character reached her moral nadir was awesome to watch. But... was it inevitable and did it have to be Willow? What if it was Buffy instead? What if Tara wasn't the one who died? What if it were Xander instead? What would that have done to Anya? Or Buffy or Willow, losing their stable moral compass?

It would have been interesting to see other outcomes...(you mentioned Xander, and seeing him die would have been so so satisfying for me personally) like you, i abhor "bury your gays" syndrome...but after much thinking, I'm not even sure that's at play here.

Think about it. Willow channels the darkest most primeval magicks to resurrect the person she was grieving. The moment Buffy is out of the ground, Willow is perky, oblivious to the violation and pain she's caused. When Giles calls her out, she threatens him in a tone that borders on violent.

Her losing Tara was a totally appropriate consequence of magical liberties Willow had been taking.

But I can still see why people are upset with the "kill your gays" trope here...though I'm convinced otherwise. I actually think Buffy does LGBT representation quite well even by today's standards. The same can not be said for the undercurrent not racism though.

 

[gwenogjones]

When I originally watched season 6 I was 16/17 (and watching the spuffy scenes with my mum! 😱) and found the whole thing dark and depressing and pretty interminable - watching it week by week the depressing stuff just stretched out for ages. Now I can binge watch it, the really depressing stuff is over before you know it and it's far less dark and more enjoyable viewed in a short space of time. Having said that, there are not many MOTW episodes of s6 that I specifically enjoy and I find the overall arc of the troika/ Willow pretty weak. I also think it is problematic in many ways that don't necessarily affect my enjoyment in the moment but that are issues worthy of discussion.
Having said that - these days I prefer talking about Buffy to watching it, so s6 should be my favourite 😄
I think switching the magic from being a metaphor for blossoming lesbian romance to hardcore drug addiction is problematic. I don't think it was done intentionally - I certainly don't ascribe any homophobic intention on the part of the writers ... but nevertheless it is a problem, and the fact that no one stopped and considered it might be a problem is also a problem.
I also have a lot of problems with Spuffy in this season (and I am more of spuffy shipper than a bangel shipper - I just hate what we get during their 'relationship') I think this aspect suffers from Joss being focused on Firefly and David Fury and Marti Noxon having two fundamentally different takes on the relationship. Fury (at the time) saw Spike as 'a serial killer in prison' and wrote him as abusive. Noxon sees the whole relationship as hot and writes is as such. So what we get is a weird mixed signal that 'abuse is hot' - and for a show predominantly aimed at teenage girls (many of whom were in love with Spike) ... maybe not a good message to be inadvertently sending out?
Also - and I have said this before over on the chipperish forum - there is absolutely no excuse for the line of dialogue 'I'm so juiced.' It is beyond cringe. Whoever wrote that should have been sacked on the spot.

Having said that - I am of the opinion that there is no such thing as a bad episode of Buffy. Not teacher's pet, not I robot you Jane, not some assembly required and not even where the wild things are. There is not one single episode of Buffy that after watching I won't consider the previous 42 minutes an enjoyable 42 minutes well spent. So if there's no such thing as a bad episode - then there can be no such thing as a bad season. There are seasons I enjoy more than others - but honestly, I would have trouble ranking them because I go to each different season for different things. All have their problems - and all have their soaring heights.

 

[Altoz]

Okay, so Joss compensated for killing Tara in Seeing Red by killing Anya off in Chosen as well as temporarily having Spike go out in a blaze of glory, saving Buffy and destroying the Hellmouth. Only to resurrect Spike again in Angel Season 5. At least Anya stayed dead. However, we never got any opportunity to see Xander's response to losing the woman he loved in any detail or depth, unlike Willow's grieving for the first half of Season 7 and Buffy running away from Sunnydale earlier in the series after she'd impaled Angel and sent him to Azathoth. And yes, I am aware that if Seth Green had stayed with the series, it would have been Oz in that bedroom dying from the riccochet bullet instead of Tara. The problem is, it's not Buffy alone that's guilty of the falling piano syndrome. Take Talia Winters and Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5, or Ianto Jones and Jack Harkness in Torchwood. Added to which, in the comics continuation, apart from Anya, Wes and Joyce Summers, everyone else got brought back to life- Spike and Angel survived the climatic battle at the end of Not Fade Away, Jonathan was resurrected to serve as a male vengeance demon with an animus against Andrew and so on. It also took too damned long for Andrew to come out- even though the Scoobies were based in San Franscisco! And no offence intended to Iyari Limon, but Kennedy was a rushjob, one dimensional figure with insufficient character development.

 

[katmobile]

Okay, so Joss compensated for killing Tara in Seeing Red by killing Anya off in Chosen as well as temporarily having Spike go out in a blaze of glory, saving Buffy and destroying the Hellmouth. Only to resurrect Spike again in Angel Season 5. At least Anya stayed dead. However, we never got any opportunity to see Xander's response to losing the woman he loved in any detail or depth, unlike Willow's grieving for the first half of Season 7 and Buffy running away from Sunnydale earlier in the series after she'd impaled Angel and sent him to Azathoth. And yes, I am aware that if Seth Green had stayed with the series, it would have been Oz in that bedroom dying from the riccochet bullet instead of Tara. The problem is, it's not Buffy alone that's guilty of the falling piano syndrome. Take Talia Winters and Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5, or Ianto Jones and Jack Harkness in Torchwood. Added to which, in the comics continuation, apart from Anya, Wes and Joyce Summers, everyone else got brought back to life- Spike and Angel survived the climatic battle at the end of Not Fade Away, Jonathan was resurrected to serve as a male vengeance demon with an animus against Andrew and so on. It also took too damned long for Andrew to come out- even though the Scoobies were based in San Franscisco! And no offence intended to Iyari Limon, but Kennedy was a rushjob, one dimensional figure with insufficient character development.

One point if Anya wasn't resurrected nor was Jonathan - they were both copies of the dead person in question. The Jonathan who Andrew killed would never have become a vengeance demon - he said he cared about people even if they didn't care about him.

 

[Altoz]

Ah. Yes, I was aware about that in Anya's case, but not Jonathans. Thanks, Kat.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

@Dora Buffy had her part to play in Spuffy. She was in a bad place emotionally which led her to make bad choices and then CHOOSE to continue doing so. She didn't "accidentally" have sex with Spike on multiple occasions, she chose to seek him out for sex because it made her feel better temporarily. It is NOT a case of big bad Spike and poor little Buffy. Buffy had agency. Spuffy was a MUTUALLY unhealthy relationship for BOTH participants.

 

[Btvs fan]

Okay, so Joss compensated for killing Tara in Seeing Red by killing Anya off in Chosen as well as temporarily having Spike go out in a blaze of glory, saving Buffy and destroying the Hellmouth. Only to resurrect Spike again in Angel Season 5. At least Anya stayed dead. However, we never got any opportunity to see Xander's response to losing the woman he loved in any detail or depth, unlike Willow's grieving for the first half of Season 7 and Buffy running away from Sunnydale earlier in the series after she'd impaled Angel and sent him to Azathoth. And yes, I am aware that if Seth Green had stayed with the series, it would have been Oz in that bedroom dying from the riccochet bullet instead of Tara. The problem is, it's not Buffy alone that's guilty of the falling piano syndrome. Take Talia Winters and Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5, or Ianto Jones and Jack Harkness in Torchwood. Added to which, in the comics continuation, apart from Anya, Wes and Joyce Summers, everyone else got brought back to life- Spike and Angel survived the climatic battle at the end of Not Fade Away, Jonathan was resurrected to serve as a male vengeance demon with an animus against Andrew and so on. It also took too damned long for Andrew to come out- even though the Scoobies were based in San Franscisco! And no offence intended to Iyari Limon, but Kennedy was a rushjob, one dimensional figure with insufficient character development.

No, Anya was killed off as Emma Caulfield was leaving the show even if it had gone on for another year. She herself said this. It had nothing to do with Tara

 

[katmobile]

@Dora Buffy had her part to play in Spuffy. She was in a bad place emotionally which led her to make bad choices and then CHOOSE to continue doing so. She didn't "accidentally" have sex with Spike on multiple occasions, she chose to seek him out for sex because it made her feel better temporarily. It is NOT a case of big bad Spike and poor little Buffy. Buffy had agency. Spuffy was a MUTUALLY unhealthy relationship for BOTH participants.

Yup and mutually abusive too. It doesn't excuse what Spike did and he knows it but the lack of boundaries because Buffy was a mess, which he did not cause, and was deeply conflicted about the whole thing.

 

[Dora]

@Dora Buffy had her part to play in Spuffy. She was in a bad place emotionally which led her to make bad choices and then CHOOSE to continue doing so. She didn't "accidentally" have sex with Spike on multiple occasions, she chose to seek him out for sex because it made her feel better temporarily. It is NOT a case of big bad Spike and poor little Buffy. Buffy had agency. Spuffy was a MUTUALLY unhealthy relationship for BOTH participants.

You've come back wrong ,what sort of demon are you, Spikes words , he knew she was not the normal Buffy that she was not the Buffy he professed to love , he showed his love by mocking her in the morning after smashed,
Buffy used Spike as self harming because she was mentally ill , but it was Spike who still stalked her not seeking to help her , help with Dawn but just use her for sex , Balcony, outside her home, at her work for instance , she does not understand ? as she asked Why do I keep letting him in ?
Buffy is shown trying to fight her feeling's when she shows at Spikes door in Dead things and thanks the heavens when she hears the scream, Buffy life at this point was patrolling , fighting , money problems, working a job she disliked , a bitch of a sister, her depression and Spikes sexaul abuse no wonder a prison cell would seem to be a better choice
Buffy apologised after Riley's speech, Buffy apologised to Spike even calling his human bodies name of William she realised she had just been using him for self harming , she said sorry and when he said he did not mind, she told him it was killing her.....his answer was to try to rape her
At this point Spike is a demon so no blame can be put there , despite the writers not knowing to make him good or bad...
What I hate is they showed Buffy having sex with a animal..... a thing that has taken over a dead man's body
Why do I hate season 6 so to feed Noxon's ego , to feed Spuffy , they had to make SMG do thing she did not want to do things Sarah said buffy would not do , Noxon said at the end of S6 they knew Sarah would not sign on after her contract run out , recently Noxon has said they went to far Perhaps it was right not to carry on as S7 turned into the Spike show and the mostly criticized season
Without firefly , without S6 would we have got more Buffy ? and if so would it have been as good as the first 5 seasons , the workload on Sarah was enormous , she couldn't carry on have giving so much of her life to a tv show but I am sure there was ways if , Whedon had really wanted to lesson that load