Trump tells progressive freshman congresswomen to 'go back' to their 'broken and crime infested' countries

Accusations aren't proof. *sigh* And I grow weary of these women, who come out of the woodwork, with unfounded allegations. What do I think of how Trump "basically admitted to doing such things on tape"? Here's what I think: I don't care. I'm really, really tired of hearing about it. It's boring and repetitive.

You seem like a nice kid, so I'm going to say this as politely as possible: when people use their own experiences of being assaulted to prove a point, I automatically tune them out. And when someone assumes that I'd find something like that "funny," well...it makes want to say something extraordinarily rude. But I won't, because as I said before, you seem like a nice kid. Consider this your 'Get out of jail free' card. 😉
I do apologize for what I said. I reacted in an emotional fit, before really thinking it through. I do believe that I am entitled to my views on Trump/sexual assault, but you are also entitled to yours.
 
Anyanka Bunny Slayer
Anyanka Bunny Slayer
No worries. Here's a piece of cheese. 😜
Ooopf. What is it with people like this thinking that educated immigrants from countries like the Netherlands (the dog whistle example often cited) want to come to America in order to live a lower quality of life? The people who want to come to America are the people who have nothing but the clothes on their backs, it is only then that it can truly be said to be a land of opportunity for them.

They held a press conference ? sigh, will it ever dawn on people the power of ignoring a troll? Yes, "most powerful job"but do the majority of Americans read Trump's twitter? no, they have jobs and life's and the majority of everyone is not on twitter. The congresswomen gave Donald the publicity he wanted from this and the 24 hr cable news networks have such a mutually reciprocal relationship with the occupant of the white house.
 
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And so it continues...

"Addressing reporters outside the White House, Conway insisted that Trump, by tweeting “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came”, did not mean that the members of congress should visit countries once inhabited by their ancestors.

But wait, said Andrew Feinberg, a White House reporter for Breakfast Media. So what “countries” was the president referring to, then?

At which Conway made this jaw-dropping reply: “What’s your ethnicity?”

Feinberg: Uh, why is that relevant?

Conway: Because I’m asking you a question. My ancestors are from Ireland and Italy.

Feinberg: My ethnicity is not relevant to the question.

Conway: It is, because you’re asking about, he said ‘originally’. He said ‘originally from’. [Fact check: three of the four members of Congress in question are “originally from” the United States, unless where you were born... is not the same as where you are from... because you are... not white?]

That’s a fairly powerful counterpoint to the op-ed this morning in the Washington Post by Conway’s husband, George Conway, titled “Trump is a racist president”:

No matter how much I found him ultimately unfit, I still gave him the benefit of the doubt about being a racist. No matter how much I came to dislike him, I didn’t want to think that the president of the United States is a racial bigot.
But Sunday left no doubt. Naivete, resentment and outright racism, roiled in a toxic mix, have given us a racist president.
 
He was an asshole before his presidency, so I don't think he's going to change in the presidency.

@FaithLehane16

Just a asshole, my fellow American, your just being to nice to our president. Being a white female, I should be supporting him. But, I also have a undergrad degree, I have moved from the state of my birth to a different state, and plan to move to a different state some time later in my life. I have overcome the color of my skin, I have overcome the differences with peoples education and cultural differences. I also understand that America will become a majority minority country within my lifetime. Trump, is not a bump in the road and can be fixed after he leaves office. People voted for him in 2016 and will do the same in 2020. And women in our age group voted for him in 2016, and we have to deal with these other women for the rest of our lifetime. Trump is the most anti-woman president we ever had, and women in our generation still voted for him.

If I was a male, and a older male, he is thinking why should he be supporting women's issues when white women voted for the most anti-woman president ever over a white woman running for president. If I was a male, and if Trump gets elected in 2020, he must be thinking that women really hates their own gender.
 
white avenger
white avenger
Trump was elected, not because a white woman was running for President, but because that white woman was Hillary Clinton. My neighbor's cat could have beaten her.
And so it continues...

"Addressing reporters outside the White House, Conway insisted that Trump, by tweeting “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came”, did not mean that the members of congress should visit countries once inhabited by their ancestors.

But wait, said Andrew Feinberg, a White House reporter for Breakfast Media. So what “countries” was the president referring to, then?

At which Conway made this jaw-dropping reply: “What’s your ethnicity?”

Feinberg: Uh, why is that relevant?

Conway: Because I’m asking you a question. My ancestors are from Ireland and Italy.

Feinberg: My ethnicity is not relevant to the question.

Conway: It is, because you’re asking about, he said ‘originally’. He said ‘originally from’. [Fact check: three of the four members of Congress in question are “originally from” the United States, unless where you were born... is not the same as where you are from... because you are... not white?]

That’s a fairly powerful counterpoint to the op-ed this morning in the Washington Post by Conway’s husband, George Conway, titled “Trump is a racist president”:



George and Kellyanne Conway must have....quite the marriage. 😂
 
Taake
Taake
Lol, was thinking that too
@white avenger

Glad you think your neighbors cat could have defeated Hillary Clinton. Look, I am a white female with a undergrad degree as a double major in political science and philosophy, and I am a Social Democrat. If, and only if, Bernie Sanders said he was a Social Democrat -- I would have supported him. But, he said he was a Democrat Socialist -- and every matrix and modeling has proven it does not work. Do we really want the lowest ranking members of the military voting who will be their junior officers, and do we want our junior officers voting who will be our senior officers. If you want to piss off a Social Democrat, and one that understands the topic well, as how Social Democrat ideologies would work with the military. They will turn around, and walk away without answering your question. Do you really want a military, demanding this program, and this perks, and these wants and needs, or, if we do not get what we want -- we will go on strike or use nuclear weapons on American cities if you do not accept our demands. If Social Democrats can say McDonald's workers can go on strike, well, the military can go on strike too.

In my judgment, it was the Sanders supports that got Trump elected. They voted for Gary Johnson, who is not a liberal, and did not know what was happening in Aleppo. Some, even voted for Trump so Sanders could run again in 2020. With the 1968 election, the 1972 election, the 1980 election, the 2000 election and the 2016 election -- liberals are there own worst enemies. If a conservative wants to defeat a group of liberals, just leave them alone -- they will turn on each other in less than a week and killing each other in less than a month.
 
Nothing Trump says surprises me anymore. He's proven he's a wannabe fascist, racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc...he has no shame. But it kind of blows my mind that he's targeting immigrants now and people are supporting him still.

We are a country built by and comprised of immigrants. We are a multicultural, multiracial country and whites are longer the minority. Diversity is what makes our country great, and strong. Most of our grandparents were immigrants. My grandfather came here from Bulgaria, and my grandmother from England. And I'm willing to bet you one or both of Trump's parent's were immigrants too. The only "natives" in this country are native Americans. Saying "go back to where you came from" is ridiculous to say to someone who was born here.

The United States founding values of life, liberty and justice for all, the pursuit of happiness...those values extended to all who wanted to come here and have a better life. Our founding fathers would roll in their graves if they saw how the country was being presided over now.

Trump is about as Anti-American as you can get. He stands for nothing America does. It blows my mind that people can't see that.
 
Glad you think your neighbors cat could have defeated Hillary Clinton.

Obviously, I was exaggerating. My neighbor's cat is nowhere hear the minimum age of 35, which is a requisite for holding the office of President, and I'm pretty sure Spud wouldn't pass the physical. My point was that Hillary totally underestimated her opponent, something that his detractors continue to do even now, and her email problems, like a flock of diseased pigeone, came home to roost at the worst possible time. Hillary thought that there would be enough people in the country to think that it was "about time" we had a woman, ANY woman, in the Oval Office that she wouldn't have to work to win, and she was wrong.

it kind of blows my mind that he's targeting immigrants now and people are supporting him still.

But Trump isn't targeting immigrants, he is simply enforcing the laws that the Democrats passed concerning ILLEGAL immigrants. That's the job of the Exacutive branch of our government. The Immigration laws are screwed up, and Congress needs to do their job and correct the mistakes that they are responsible for. Trump's job is to impartially and fairly enforce the laws as they are written by he Legislature and interpreted by the Courts.
 
Obviously, I was exaggerating. My neighbor's cat is nowhere hear the minimum age of 35, which is a requisite for holding the office of President, and I'm pretty sure Spud wouldn't pass the physical. My point was that Hillary totally underestimated her opponent, something that his detractors continue to do even now, and her email problems, like a flock of diseased pigeone, came home to roost at the worst possible time. Hillary thought that there would be enough people in the country to think that it was "about time" we had a woman, ANY woman, in the Oval Office that she wouldn't have to work to win, and she was wrong.

@white avenger

The problem with Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016, she was not making foolish gifts to get people to vote for her. If she gotten elected in 2016, there would have been a backlash to the Democrat party in 2018, and more Democrats would lose seats in the House and the Senate. There would have been governors losing reelections or losing running for governor. The only safe state for the Democrats with Clinton as president in 2018 -- would have been California. So, she played it safe, and wanted to get reelected in 2020 and be a two term president.

With the current crop of Democrats running for president in 2020 -- they are doomed to be a one term president if and only if they can win in 2020. Obama gave us a weak tea national healthcare, and the Democrat party lost the House, the Senate, Governorships, and down the line with minor offices. Now, it is universal healthcare for all, free college education for everyone, student loans forgiven, taxes only for the 1%, and they will come up with different trillion dollar programs to fund. If they get the White House, and get control of the Senate, and they change the rules of the Senate were you only need a simple majority and turn it into acting like the House. They only got two years to get every program they want. Then, they have to deal with a conservative courts that can say -- sorry, you lose. The Democrats will take a bloodbath in the 2022 election, and whoever is elected, will be declared a failed president running for reelection in 2024.
 
From what I’ve seen online regarding still supporting Trump, there are a few things that keep popping up

1) Progressives tell me to go back to Africa all the time, I don’t care about their Trumprage/ Democrats are more racist, they just hide it behind treating POC like they’re their pets

2),He made a Nationalistic statement, not a racist one. The women, or their parents, came from failed states seeking a better life in the US. They got it and are now trying to implement failed state ideologies here, no thanks. Trump is a nationalist that’s why I voted for him.

3) The Democrats have screamed ”racist” about everything Trump says since 2015. They have no proper policy or proposal comebacks and thus use ad hominems instead. I’m not listening anymore, I don’t care anymore, they’ve also told us during this time that everything from making a three-pointer sign in basketball to owning a dog are signs and tools of white supremacy. They think everything is racist because they’ve gone insane

On top of that you now have the hashtag I stand with Erica woman, another hate crime hoax that people who hate Trump jumped on with no scrutiny. (White guy told her to go back to where she came from in grocery store dispute - she says. Backtracks the next day. Guy shows up to press conference and is actually a Cuban Democrat who’ve spent his week defending the ”squad” against Trump). Stuff like that makes Democrats look like manipulative liars desperate for power, and people are really fed up with it.

Mostly, I would say that people who have an enduring support for Trump have cogent and well thought out reasons. They’re a very varied bunch of people and when others say they don’t understand why people still support Trump it makes me wonder - do you talk to them? Listen to their reasons? Or just blow them off in a rage?

I’m not saying anyone has to agree with this very distilled list of reasons I’ve seen/heard/experienced, but the Trump base seems very far away from the white-supremacist group meeting some seem to picture it as.
 
Nothing Trump says surprises me anymore. He's proven he's a wannabe fascist, racist, sexist, xenophobic, etc...he has no shame. But it kind of blows my mind that he's targeting immigrants now and people are supporting him still.

We are a country built by and comprised of immigrants. We are a multicultural, multiracial country and whites are longer the minority. Diversity is what makes our country great, and strong. Most of our grandparents were immigrants. My grandfather came here from Bulgaria, and my grandmother from England. And I'm willing to bet you one or both of Trump's parent's were immigrants too. The only "natives" in this country are native Americans. Saying "go back to where you came from" is ridiculous to say to someone who was born here.

The United States founding values of life, liberty and justice for all, the pursuit of happiness...those values extended to all who wanted to come here and have a better life. Our founding fathers would roll in their graves if they saw how the country was being presided over now.

Trump is about as Anti-American as you can get. He stands for nothing America does. It blows my mind that people can't see that.
It's mind blowing that Trump can bang on about his Scottish roots (and considering that Scotland is one of the most left leaning parts of the UK which is all left of the USA republican party I doubt many there feel much kinship with him) and then attack US nationals with other roots. He obviously doesn't see the contradiction or thinks that because his ancestors came over earlier it's fine or is it ok because he's white 'cos that's what it's really about ain't it? Same with the UK many moons ago when a Descendent said were becoming a mongrel nation. For starters mongrels are often healthier than pure breeds - and I think both the US and UK are the cultural leaders because of multi-cultural influences - but many queried the word becoming. We've always been a mix - the Roman Empire even had people of Middle Eastern origin settle here. Eddie Izzard even did a radio series called Mongrel Nation about our rich varied heritage.
 
Bluebird
Bluebird
Scotland definitely doesn't want him back, and the country hated him long before he became president because of the golf course fiasco and how he treated the locals.
ILLYRIAN
ILLYRIAN
Trumps mother was born and lived on an island in the Hebrides, that's why Trump loves Scotland.
Mostly, I would say that people who have an enduring support for Trump have cogent and well thought out reasons. They’re a very varied bunch of people and when others say they don’t understand why people still support Trump it makes me wonder - do you talk to them? Listen to their reasons? Or just blow them off in a rage?
Yes, in fact I do talk to them and ask them how they think he's making our country better. I do try very hard to understand people different than me. That's the only way we can come together again. but it's pretty frustrating when the reasons they say are actually not fact. For instance, i had a women tell me she voted for him and would vote for him again because he "tells it like it is." I reminded her that Trump lies on a regular basis, and makes up facts and it's well established fact he does this. I had another woman say she voted for him because "since he was a good businessman he is a good President." I think we all know how absurd that is.

Trump is the least qualified President we have ever had, a pathological liar, and he's actually RAISED taxes for the middle class. So yeah. I'll listen to his supporter's "reasons" but I'm sad to say many of them are woefully misinformed.
 
Taake
Taake
Awesome, I'll always believe there is hope as long as we all keep talking to each other, even if we strongly disagree.
From what I’ve seen online regarding still supporting Trump, there are a few things that keep popping up

1) Progressives tell me to go back to Africa all the time, I don’t care about their Trumprage/ Democrats are more racist, they just hide it behind treating POC like they’re their pets

2),He made a Nationalistic statement, not a racist one. The women, or their parents, came from failed states seeking a better life in the US. They got it and are now trying to implement failed state ideologies here, no thanks. Trump is a nationalist that’s why I voted for him.

3) The Democrats have screamed ”racist” about everything Trump says since 2015. They have no proper policy or proposal comebacks and thus use ad hominems instead. I’m not listening anymore, I don’t care anymore, they’ve also told us during this time that everything from making a three-pointer sign in basketball to owning a dog are signs and tools of white supremacy. They think everything is racist because they’ve gone insane

On top of that you now have the hashtag I stand with Erica woman, another hate crime hoax that people who hate Trump jumped on with no scrutiny. (White guy told her to go back to where she came from in grocery store dispute - she says. Backtracks the next day. Guy shows up to press conference and is actually a Cuban Democrat who’ve spent his week defending the ”squad” against Trump). Stuff like that makes Democrats look like manipulative liars desperate for power, and people are really fed up with it.

Mostly, I would say that people who have an enduring support for Trump have cogent and well thought out reasons. They’re a very varied bunch of people and when others say they don’t understand why people still support Trump it makes me wonder - do you talk to them? Listen to their reasons? Or just blow them off in a rage?

I’m not saying anyone has to agree with this very distilled list of reasons I’ve seen/heard/experienced, but the Trump base seems very far away from the white-supremacist group meeting some seem to picture it as.
Telling people to 'go back where they came from' is textbook racist rhetoric. I'm not saying racist a-holes are exclusive to the right (our left wing party certainly has an anti-Semitic problem) but the concentration of problematic individuals is higher on the right. Also while the left maybe patronising it's at least proof of effort and it's not a crime to be clueless. If we're getting it wrong tell us we'll probably listen.
The reason why Trump is being called racist since 2015 is because he's a racist. Him doggedly believing in the guilt of a bunch of lads of Mexican descent despite conclusive DNA evidence proving their innocence massively pre dates 2015.
 
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The problem with Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016, she was not making foolish gifts to get people to vote for her

There are as many different theories concerning why Hillary didn't win and why Trump did to fill a while wing of the Library of Congress. The fact remains that the man now occupying the White House and getting to ride around on "Air Force One" won, fairly and squarely, by the rules governing the election, and a very vocal section of the American population, supported by a whole lot of liberal news networks, can't seem to come to terms with that fact. I'm 71 years old, and I have never in my lifetime seen the kind of behavior from the losing candidate and their supporters that I have seen with Hillary and her party. Regardless of what 2020 brings, I sincerely hope that we can see an end to all this horse s**t.
 
There are as many different theories concerning why Hillary didn't win and why Trump did to fill a while wing of the Library of Congress. The fact remains that the man now occupying the White House and getting to ride around on "Air Force One" won, fairly and squarely, by the rules governing the election, and a very vocal section of the American population, supported by a whole lot of liberal news networks, can't seem to come to terms with that fact. I'm 71 years old, and I have never in my lifetime seen the kind of behavior from the losing candidate and their supporters that I have seen with Hillary and her party. Regardless of what 2020 brings, I sincerely hope that we can see an end to all this horse s**t.
He won under the system but he didn't get the majority of votes per centage wise so it depends on what criteria you use. As for sour grapes Trump said that if he lost it was fixed and he wouldn't accept the result. There were suspicious leeks courtesy of our dodgy friend Assange and highly probably Putin interference. Also much as I disliked Bush and yeah don't get me started on the dubious election of W he was a statesman Trump is a man child he's the Eric Cartman of politics.
 
He won under the system but he didn't get the majority of votes per centage wise so it depends on what criteria you use.

This keeps coming up again and again, and the answer is always the same. The President wins the election by receiving the largest number of electoral votes. That means that he is elected by winning the largest number of states. The number of popular votes that he receives is not a factor, and hasn't been since the founding of this nation. The purpose of the Electoral College is to assure that a few densely inhabited states don't wind up controlling the election, thereby setting themselves up as the only ones to whom a potential President is ultimately responsible. Without the College, states like California and New York would, in effect, control the White House, no matter who sat in the Oval Office. Great for California and New York, but the rest of the country can be pretty much dismissed.
 
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