What is your religion?

I hail from two heavily Catholic families, and am one myself. I don't follow my religion religiously per say, and I actually enjoy hearing the scientific sides of things without having to balance it with my personal beliefs. 🙂
 
Well, I am actually Christen. I'm baptized (or however you call that 😀) and stuff, but you won't find a cross or Bible in my house. I don't believe in God and neither do my parents or little sister. I don't have problems with other people believing, if they're aren't so extreme in it that they don't accept other beliefs.

I do light candles 🙂
 
I'm Roman Catholic. I believe in God and have done the first 4 sacraments, but I wasn't really that actively religious. Sure, I got dragged to church when I was young (as a kid, going to church is just a boring chore) and went to a Catholic school, but it wasn't all that important to me, especially after I moved schools. It wasn't until my grandma died almost 2 years ago and I promised her that I'd go with my granddad that I started going to church every week again. That said, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to attend church to be able to worship.

I don't believe or agree with all the teachings of the Catholic church. In my opinion it's far too conservative and needs to get with the times. I don't believe being gay is a sin and I really don't think religion and beliefs should be forced upon people. People should be free to believe in whatever they want. I also think fighting between religions is stupid and pointless because basically all religions come down to the principle of loving one another. Besides, no one will know for certain whether they are wrong or right until they're dead (and if there is no God or afterlife they'll never know). It's called faith for a reason. So I think everyone should just be nice to one another and make the most of this life, whether there'll be one after or not.

I probably sound really hostile, but believe me, I don't mean to be at all. Just my two cents.
 
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you don't sound hostile at all, hun. I agree with just about every word you said. :)
So, I have question for you Christians. Do you think it's stupid that babies that are not baptized and died at birth or few days after can't have Christian funeral, with priest and all ceremony? The church belives that we are all born natural sinners, the moment we come to this world we are sinners, born with the natural sin that came from Adam and Eve. My grandmother had a lot of sisters that died few days after birth and just haven't got time to get baptized, so they couldn't have funeral as all other people have. They were burried private, in the cemetary with all other people, but without ceremony, and they have little cross made from wood with their name on their grave. I think that's stupid rule, because what can one baby do in his/her few days of living. I belive in God, but I don't supports many actions by church.

I've also read that in some religions babies who are born, but their mother died in birth can't be accepted in the comunity because they're killers. I can't find that anywhere on internet, I've read that in magazine few years ago, maybe it was false. Does anyone know anything about this?
 
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Yes, I think that's absolutely ridiculous
With things like the issue above PB, I think it's important to acknowledge that even under the branch of Christianity, not all denominations are the same or have the same 'rules'/beliefs. For instance, what you speak I have always associated with the Catholic church and even now I think that the Pope has come out and said something about it not being that way any more. I seem to recall it anyway.

All sorts of denominations believe in different things and going even further than that, not all people of each individual denominations believe the same things. In this day and age you will find that many Christians aren't like they used to be back t' day and it really is quite a diverse religion now that differs between communities and countries etc.
 
I have no idea how things are here but if newborn babies can't get a christian funeral I'd be surprised. I think it's up to the parents. Maybe it depends on if they're in church or not- But since I don't know I can be way wrong. If I'm wrong I agree that it's stupid. Well even if I'm right and it's like you describe in other countries I still think it's stupid. Obviously. And if the last thing you say is true it's even more. If nothing else I thought the church was about forgiveness and second chances...

To me being a christian mean that you believe in God, not that you stand behind all things being done or said in the name of God. I for one love The Da Vinci code and Angels & demons no matter what other christians think about it. Doesn't mean I see them as truth though. 😉
 
I think it depends on the denomination. I know the Catholic Church just a few years ago - during Benedict's time - changed or at least modified their stance on what happens to unchristened babies after death. I think it's that limbo is not official church policy (and I guess never really was) and that unchristened babies probably go to heaven. Don't know about other denominations, and I don't know how that policy affects burial rites.

Is it not refreshing to hear an organised religion saying 'probably', though?
 
I think people are pretty intolerant (we always notice things that are different), but I think we can either be taught to be accepting or taught that passing judgement is correct. I think religion unfortunately teaches the latter much more than the former.
That has to stand for you then. I know a lot religious people can be be big bigots and strict, but the question is if the religion is to blame or not. You need to study the religion itself and what it says instead of listening to the people claiming to live by it. Have you heard of the golden rule?

Just because some people are a certain way it isn't always for the reason you want/think. If people behaved the same way but not being religious what would we blame it on then?

Well, I am actually Christen. I'm baptized (or however you call that 😀) and stuff, but you won't find a cross or Bible in my house. I don't believe in God and neither do my parents or little sister.

I'm not saying that you need to agree with me or that most people think I'm right. But would you mind defining what being a christian mean to you? To live in a (mostly) christian society? "Celebrate" christian holidays? Or is it as simple as being baptized possibly followed by Confirmation is enough?
 
That has to stand for you then. I know a lot religious people can be be big bigots and strict, but the question is if the religion is to blame or not. You need to study the religion itself and what it says instead of listening to the people claiming to live by it. Have you heard of the golden rule?

I have studied religion itself, and I know whereof I speak. I believe it has more to do with people twisting religious beliefs and stories in the Bible into something they were not meant to be. But to say understanding religion means studying the beliefs and not the believers ring false to me. Perhaps religion isn't meant to be intolerant or extreme, but if people take it that way, then it doesn't really matter, does it?
 
Perhaps religion isn't meant to be intolerant or extreme, but if people take it that way, then it doesn't really matter, does it?

Some people take it that way but far from everyone. I'm sorry if you've mostly come in contact with "bad" ones.

A lof of people do or did in the past a lot of bad things in the name of religion. Do/did they do it because they're religious or because they wanted to take advantage of the impact religion have? Once again I'm sure we have people on both sides.

But if there wasn't religion and people still behaved the way you're talking about. What would be to blame then? Or is it too difficult to think about?

If it sounds like I defend every religious people I apologize. It's not what I mean at all. There's good sides and bad sides to everything in life. So with religion. To me it just sound like you mostly want to concentrate on the bad things. Maybe I'm wrong.

Take a very stupid comparision. What do you think about cars? They polute the air and they're involved in many deaths and accidents. Do we concentrate on the bad or good things? I said it was stupid. 😉 But maybe you see my point none the less.
 
I was raised Lutheran but didn't really identify as such.

I have some "pagan" type beliefs .... but I keep it to myself, mostly. I think organized religious communities - any religion - usually become instruments of Group Think, even if they started out with good intentions.
 
I grew up going to a nondenominational church with my mom and sister. When I moved in with my dad though, I stopped going to church because my dad's an atheist and my stepmom is interested in Buddhism. My mom grew up Catholic, but she and most of her brothers moved on to different denominations after they moved out of their parents' home. My dad's side of the family is very religious and super conservative. My dad is the only one in the family who is not a Christian. I often feel torn between two worlds. I mean, I grew up thinking I was Christian, but I had stopped going to church before you really start to learn about what it really means to be a Christian. It's funny because my dad is well versed in the Bible (he can quote passages), and he's an atheist. I don't know nearly as much as he does, and yet I am the only one who shows any real interest in religion at all.

I like the idea of God, but I have a hard time "keeping faith" if you will. My three best friends are all very Christian and very conservative, and I'm just... not, and yet one of them invited me to go to her church for a while, which I did. I really liked it there. The pastors never said anything that I found offensive (for example, against any particular race, homosexuals, transgender, or non-believers), which I was thankful for because every other church I had been to had. My old church had an Elder who actually said that "Mary was not your average self-serving Jewess," when my dad was there for one of my children's plays. He said he almost got up and walked out, but he figured I'd be sad if he wasn't there for my performance. Also, at our old church, one lady divorced her husband, and the whole congregation, especially the women's group, shunned her and openly told her that she was not welcome in the house of God. Ridiculous! These are the things which push me away from going to church. Well, that, and my inability to take that leap of faith. It's difficult to find a church that I feel comfortable in, where I wont be put down for my own personal beliefs.

I wish I could just "be Christian" sometimes because I know that it has affected my relationship with my family. My cousins, who I was super close with on my Dad's side, won't even talk with me anymore. I couldn't get more than a one-word response from my cousin in a conversation. I used to go home with her 2 days a week after school for 4 years when I was living with my mother... we were close! But when I told her a month later that I was trying out a new church, she was ecstatic and so happy! It just bothers me that my family can love God so unconditionally, but not a family member who is in a religious-limbo of sorts.
 
I was raised Roman Catholic, converted to Evangelicsm for a time, and reverted back to Catholocism. We are raising our kids Catholic as well, but I am a very liberal Catholic (theologically & politically). I am also involved in 12 step programs which influence my spirituality & my more liberal view on the RCC.

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I wanted to add that I have great empathy for A/As in the U.S. Being a liberal and a Catholic in the Bible Belt is not always fun, and I'm sure it's much harder to be an atheist or agnostic!
 
Let's see. Before my parents split when I was 11, I was raised Catholic. After the split my mom wanted to keep doing the whole Catholic thing but my dad wanted me to be christian. Boy did they have a cow when I came out....

All of my aunts and uncles tried to get me to join their church, from catholic to mormon...I just couldn't join any. There is something about churches that creeps me out.

I believe in God, and the Bible.

I just wish everyone would let me praise in my own way rather than forcing everything onto me =/
 
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Your Dad wanted you to be Christian? What the hell do you think Catholic is?
I'm an agnostic with atheist tendencies. I don't know what's out there and I don't really care. But if I had to guess I'd say it's all science baby. My parents are so not religious. I'm Greek... so I have to go to church on Easter. If I don't, I'd be disowned. My parents weren't going to have us baptized... but my great grandmother said she would disown my immediate family so when I was 3 I was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church. When I was 7 I told my great grandmother I didn't believe in God. My parents and grandmother yelled at me and told me when talking to Yiya (my great grandmother), I have to believe in God. it wasn't until I was 9 when I made up my mind for sure. then I REALLY mad up my mind when my grandmother died.
Because I was raised in an Orthodox christian church these new-agey things like grape juice and crackers don't make sense to me. The bible says "wine and bread." If you're drinking grape juice and eating crackers, I don't care how many times the holy man has blessed it, you're not drinking Christ's metaphorical blood or eating his metaphorical body. End of story. Just my opinion
 
Raised Roman Catholic, but I consider myself more Christian-Catholic. But, I'm not one who forces my religion on others. I respect all religions 🙂
 
Because I was raised in an Orthodox christian church these new-agey things like grape juice and crackers don't make sense to me. The bible says "wine and bread." If you're drinking grape juice and eating crackers, I don't care how many times the holy man has blessed it, you're not drinking Christ's metaphorical blood or eating his metaphorical body. End of story. Just my opinion

LOL Zobo, ITA! As I said I'm catholic, and even though I wouldn't deign to argue with anybody about religion (I don't really care what anybody else believes or doesn't), it really gets my goat when Protestants/Evangelicals criticize Catholics and Orthodox, because half the time they don't know what the hell they're talking about. As I said before, I get that a lot here in the Bible Belt.

Humanity, one's only religion. Breath, one's only prayer.

I really like that quote.
 
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