This shows a lot of contempt for young people. Maybe younger then a 21 you were that frivolous and stupid - but by 21 I had spent the last three years living in a different city to my parents and had completed my university degree. At 18 In was deemed old enough to move out of my home and stand on my own two feet - by society and by my parents. I had qualifications and had completed all mandatory education 2 years previously and had chosen to continue at school. I was old enough and mature enough to vote, thank you. At my time at Uni we were at the very beginning of student fees being increased and there were great pushes in halls for us all to contact our mp and write to the education secretary etc to try and stop it. The war in Iraq was brand new and we were all pretty angry about it. We were politically engaged.
And I have said we shouldn't stop old people voting (someone suggested that and I explained why that was a terrible idea) BUT in a referendum, which will only happen once and will affect job prospects for decades to come - the voices of the retired just should not count the same. Of course they should be counted - but the voices of the young should carry more weight, in such a particular instance, as it is their jobs and future on the line. There was a poll on brexit that showed the majority of leavers were happy to lose their jobs as long as we left the EU. Sound a strange sacrifice to make? Well consider this, the majority of leave voters were over 65 - they were retired. When they said they would be happy to lose their job to brexit they knew full well it would never ever affect them. They voted away other people's futures, other people's careers.
Around the world things may be different - but the over 65s of Britain have had an easier run of it than any other generation previously or since. They were born after the war, so never had that deprivation. They did not have to do national service. Jobs for life were a thing. They could get grants to go to university - and leave debt free. Mortgages were reasonable, they could afford a home and a family with only one parent working. None of that exists now. Thatcher was brought into government by the under 35 vote. The under 35 vote in 1979 translates to the over 65 vote in 2016. The one generation has repeatedly voted, throughout their lives, to pull the ladder up behind them and leave the world a worse place than they found it. And no - not all old people - I was recently on a march with a very elderly gentleman, who had served in the army, and was out marching to prove not all over 65s voted for a worse future for their grand children. But plenty of our current crop of elderly voters are making very poor decisions based on rose tinted nostalgia for a time that never was, a dollop of racism and a healthy contempt for the young.
I'm afraid people do not always get smarter and wiser as they get older. Stupid people are stupid people from birth to death. Bigotry, racism and xenophobia do not go away with age.
Yes, young people have no idea what it is to be old - they have no way of knowing. That's not their fault. But old people forget what it's like to be young. And that is their fault.
How anything I've written on this thread hasn't already shown that I already believe this... I do not know.
My god what a horrid little FASCIST are you , over 65 don't count , what next put the coloured people back picking cotton, and of course the Jewish problem....maybe you can solve that
Poor you still at school at 21 no doubt mum and dad are still chipping in to keep you ?
Let me tell you about the over 65, they started their lives with food rationing......things you take for granted today today like fresh fruit was non existent or a best a luxury right though the fifty's ,
The vast majority had no chance of going to university, if they fail;ed 11 plus then they generally had a much poorer education than there high school brothers , leaving school at 15 the best that was on offer was a apprenticeship ( 15 not 21 that's 6 years more paying in not taking out ) Thatcher came in in 1979 so a 65 year old would have been 26 , a lot of people older than 26 , voted for Thatcher and they had been though a lot tougher times including 2 world wars ,
You are under the impression that over 65 want to go back to there youths with no Car's , holiday's ( only 9 days paid ) , no benefits , no central heating, not electricity in every room ,no phone, no hot water, no travel, no inside toilets ,no sick pay , you talk about stupid people, looked in a mirror lately ?
Yes housing was more affordable , but they had interest rates of up to 15% try the young of today with that !
Of course over 65 care about the future they have Children and grand children and want the best for them , they believe leaving the EU is the best for them , they see the damaged that Mass immigration has done to housing etc , they were/are doing manual type jobs have felt the impact more , cutting their earning power over the last 25 years ,
Where maybe at 21 you don't care were the power lies Brussels not Westminster but I think as you get older you will , The over 65s do not understand why a trading block will want a Army ? , they don't want to be run by a guy who is so drunk most of the time he cannot even put on matching shoes and thjere is no way of removing him , no they care!! they they care a great deal , but most are not fooled by the men in suites
Stop and ask yourself what has Kinnock done for the uk to warrant a £1.4 million pension , £96,000 for his wife now his son is a EU MP , stop believing the men in suites the Blair's, Majors , Browns , Gleggs , Camorons they are only looking after themselves , they have their noses in the trough,
Start thinking for yourself
My dad had a saying...... don't believe what you read and only half of what you see
Our American friends on here trade with the rest of the world, they would not give up there independence, have their laws made elsewhere , be told what to do , why should we ?
